Many Tea Partiers part of religious right

[MattusMaximus]

He was very enthusiastic about the subject, while she got edgier and edgier trying to politely insist that those items were not part of the TP agenda.

Yup, pretty soon you're going to see the few secularists within the Tea Party purged by the religious righties because they aren't "true conservatives"

 

[MattusMaximus]

Still a Big Tent though; if your economic concerns outweigh your concern for being a social liberal in good-standing at places like this forum, come on in.

Yup, which is why the GOP/TP keeps purging the moderates from its ranks. Anyone remember Mike Castle?

 

[hgc]

Yup, which is why the GOP/TP keeps purging the moderates from its ranks. Anyone remember Mike Castle?

Moderates? Fuggedaboutit. Let's talk about true-blue conservatives getting the TP steel-toed boot: Bob Bennett, Sen-UT; Bob Inglis, Rep-SC; Lisa Murkowski, Sen-AK

 

[Alferd_Packer]

... and the death of Queen Anne is at long last confirmed.

What about Generalissimo Francisco Franco?

 

[coalesce]

... and the death of Queen Anne is at long last confirmed.

Any news about General Franco's health?

Michael

 

[Suddenly]

Rather like ID as dressed-up creationism, then?

Seems that way. Both seem to secularize the premise and conclusion, making both slightly more palatable to more moderate folk, but in both cases it amounts to the same nonsense.

 

[leftysergeant]

Funny how the article you quote actually points out that in spite of being full of religious nutbags, the Tea Party Movement has consistently focused on non-religious issues and left religion out of it.

Publicly, at least. But, if the party that supports your ecconomic views also tends to vote your relgious views as well, you needn't say it.

Not so funny is how you somehow interpret it to mean that the Tea Party Movement is all about religion.

Well, they certainly do not seem to take the liberal theist or atheist view on what government should be doing for or to people.

 

[Greg_in_CO]

Publicly, at least. But, if the party that supports your ecconomic views also tends to vote your relgious views as well, you needn't say it.

Agree.

 

[johnny karate]

I like how Tea Party apologists keep telling us that despite their extremist religious views, the Tea Party agenda has nothing to do with their religion.

Honest. :

 

[AlBell]

Moderates? Fuggedaboutit. Let's talk about true-blue conservatives getting the TP steel-toed boot: Bob Bennett, Sen-UT; Bob Inglis, Rep-SC; Lisa Murkowski, Sen-AK

Indeed. All of those defacto Democrats should openly declare themselves so.

 

[Neally]

Yup, which is why the GOP/TP keeps purging the moderates from its ranks. Anyone remember Mike Castle?

The GOP kick out Castle from their party? Castle was a member of the TP and got kicked out?

 

[AlBell]

Apparently not big enough - I tried to join and they said my IQ was too high.

Is there anything you wouldn't give to have that be true?

 

[hgc]

Indeed. All of those defacto Democrats should openly declare themselves so.

True. You should be able to name instances where any of these 3 voted with Dems in a divided vote in the last 2 years.

 

[MattusMaximus]

Indeed. All of those defacto Democrats should openly declare themselves so.

Nope, there's no purge going on in the GOP/TP

 

[MattusMaximus]

It is interesting to see some of the secular TP folk here who are in denial that the social conservatives & Religious Right are taking over their movement. I was warning them here over a year ago that this very thing was going to happen, and many of them kept saying "oh no, that won't happen!" Now that it is happening (or has happened), their response is to hide their heads on the sand.

Can't help fools. This won't end well for the GOP/TP if they decide to let the religious wingnuts call the shots again if they gain some power. Even some of the more experienced establishment Republicans see the danger in this, but the Tea Party doesn't want to listen - apparently, they've got both God and the Constitution on their side

 

[theprestige]

Let me quote it to you then:

They're religious people. It doesn't surprise me that they think politicians don't pay enough attention to religion. That's still not what they've chosen to make the Tea Party movement about, though.

The one who's chosen to make the Tea Party movement about religion is you. In your head.

If you take TP rhetoric and every time you see/hear the word "constitution" you replace it with "bible," it sounds familiar, if sometimes vaguely so. All they've done is change the "sacred text" they reference to support their own subjective beliefs of How Things Should Be. Rather than God and Jesus they cite the founding fathers. Same shell game.

Both allow them to see/label those with a different understanding as either anti-christian or against the constitution. It is a rather obnoxious and stupid tactic, but effective against/among the weak minded.

And you. Some sacred texts are better than others, aren't they? You'd think that people would welcome religious fundamentalists choosing to base their political activism on the Constitution, rather than on the Bible, but no. Apparently "Constitution" is just a code word for "Bible". Because, you know, it can't possibly be a code word for the Constitution.

But congratulations on being the guy who came out against the Constitution as just another bit of mystical mumbo-jumbo that no rational person could take seriously.

I wonder how agonizing it must have been for you. Previously you'd thought the Constitution was a pretty good blueprint for good governance. But now that those horrible Tea Partiers, with their demonstrably secular movement like the thing, you're forced to argue that being in favor of the Constitution is like being in favor of the Bible.

 

[mhaze]

If you take TP rhetoric and every time you see/hear the word "constitution" you replace it with "bible," it sounds familiar, if sometimes vaguely so. All they've done is change the "sacred text" they reference to support their own subjective beliefs of How Things Should Be. Rather than God and Jesus they cite the founding fathers. Same shell game......

No, strict constitutional interpretation has been around for centuries.

The shell game is one your part, a scrambling of grammer to make a point based on false analogies.

Good try, though.

 

[MattusMaximus]

They're religious people. It doesn't surprise me that they think politicians don't pay enough attention to religion. That's still not what they've chosen to make the Tea Party movement about, though.

The one who's chosen to make the Tea Party movement about religion is you. In your head.

Did you even read the article? You know, the part about how the Tea Party is shifting its platform towards the more socially & religiously conservative end of things? I've been having conversations over the last few days with many people sympathetic to the original aims of the Tea Party who are now disillusioned with the movement precisely because of the greater, creeping influence of the Religious Right. Denying it won't simply make it go away.

And, while you're at it, please name a prominent Tea Party personality who is secular in their views of conservatism. I have yet to hear of such an individual.

 

[MattusMaximus]

If you take TP rhetoric and every time you see/hear the word "constitution" you replace it with "bible," it sounds familiar, if sometimes vaguely so. All they've done is change the "sacred text" they reference to support their own subjective beliefs of How Things Should Be. Rather than God and Jesus they cite the founding fathers. Same shell game.

Both allow them to see/label those with a different understanding as either anti-christian or against the constitution. It is a rather obnoxious and stupid tactic, but effective against/among the weak minded.

No, strict constitutional interpretation has been around for centuries.

The shell game is one your part, a scrambling of grammer to make a point based on false analogies.

Good try, though.

I do agree with mhaze on this one, Suddenly. I think yours was a poor analogy.

 

[MattusMaximus]

Actually, let me open up my challenge to any supporter of the Tea Party here:

Please name a prominent Tea Party personality who is purely secular in their views of conservatism.

I have yet to hear of such an individual. In fact, while there are undoubtedly those within the TP rank-and-file who fit this mold, I doubt that any current leaders in the movement fit this description. Maybe a year ago, but not anymore.

I'm willing to be proven wrong. Proceed...