aggle-rithm
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She's almost 70 and didn't properly fund her IRA.
Many psychic detectives wrongly "see" dead victims
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She's almost 70 and didn't properly fund her IRA.
aggle-rithm
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This reminds me of my mother telling me about a conversation she once had with a successful artist. At the time she was trying to sell her paintings, and she asked him why they weren't selling well. He told her she wasn't charging ENOUGH.
It's the complete opposite of the normal supply/demand equation, but when the value of something is difficult to measure objectively, the potential buyer often judges its worth based on the price. That's why my mother couldn't sell her paintings; people saw the low prices and reasoned that they must not be very good if they were that cheap.
I'm sure it's the same with psychics. Charging $400 tricks the client into believing they're getting something really valuable for their money. I mean, it MUST be valuable, otherwise why would they spend $400?!
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Sherlock
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Noreen Renier + others charge $1000 and more
$400? Sometimes that's just the starting fee. Usually follow-ups are required to further access those wonderful psychic powers --- because the "initial waves and vibrations" are scattered and need to be further clarified. And of course in the case of Noreen Renier her standard missing person fees (still posted on her web site) are already at $1000. Sometimes she cuts her rates --- but as her previous principal creditor (owed at the time more than $45,000.00 after an award from a federal court), I was able to subpoena her financial records via court orders. Across several years and her many multiple banking accounts she deposited many $1000 checks from families seeking missing family members --- most often missing children. But none of the names on the checks ever later matched any "found" children found because of her paranormal forensic work.
And I've also found several "psychic detectives" who have charged up to $2500 --- again with no results.
$400? Sometimes that's just the starting fee. Usually follow-ups are required to further access those wonderful psychic powers --- because the "initial waves and vibrations" are scattered and need to be further clarified. And of course in the case of Noreen Renier her standard missing person fees (still posted on her web site) are already at $1000. Sometimes she cuts her rates --- but as her previous principal creditor (owed at the time more than $45,000.00 after an award from a federal court), I was able to subpoena her financial records via court orders. Across several years and her many multiple banking accounts she deposited many $1000 checks from families seeking missing family members --- most often missing children. But none of the names on the checks ever later matched any "found" children found because of her paranormal forensic work.
And I've also found several "psychic detectives" who have charged up to $2500 --- again with no results.
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Nowhere Man
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I could not have done that video any better. It was just perfect.
It should also be used as a case study in the phenomenon of denial (on the part of the psychic).
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That deserves to be embedded here:
The revelation at the end of the interview clearly hit her like a sack of bricks. She chose to flee at once. Maybe it gave her food for thought (I can only hope so), but it certainly didn't stop her peddling her "services": more than two years later she's still at it.
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Originally Posted by TheFamousCash
Just to state the most obvious fact.
ANYONE claiming to be psychic is in one, or both, of only two states.
1) A CON ARTIST.
2) MENTALLY UNWELL.
Join the campaign to change the stupid, highly ambiguous laws which actually condone LEGALISED THEFT!
Email your M.P. (or gov rep) and request the issue be raised in parliament.
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Brian-M added:-
3) SANE, BUT EXPERIENCING SELF-DECEPTION.
The distinction being that a person in sound mind can still delude themselves into thinking they have these non-existent abilities by a combination of wishful thinking, confirmation bias, etc.
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Sorry.
I believe self-deception on that level IS indicative of a mental problem so feel the only two choices remain applicable.
Just to state the most obvious fact.
ANYONE claiming to be psychic is in one, or both, of only two states.
1) A CON ARTIST.
2) MENTALLY UNWELL.
Join the campaign to change the stupid, highly ambiguous laws which actually condone LEGALISED THEFT!
Email your M.P. (or gov rep) and request the issue be raised in parliament.
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Brian-M added:-
3) SANE, BUT EXPERIENCING SELF-DECEPTION.
The distinction being that a person in sound mind can still delude themselves into thinking they have these non-existent abilities by a combination of wishful thinking, confirmation bias, etc.
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Sorry.
I believe self-deception on that level IS indicative of a mental problem so feel the only two choices remain applicable.
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desertgal
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On a side note, the "Sheriff Brooks" mentioned (sheriff in Clackamas County, OR, denied McQuary's claims of helping his dept) was Pierce R. Brooks, the former LAPD detective who worked The Onion Field case, and founded the Violent Criminal Apprehension Program (nationwide database). One of the top investigators in the country during his long career. I knew Capt. Brooks, and he was vehemently opposed to psychics, and probably one of the few cops with a national profile willing to bluntly and openly state that no psychic ever helped any police investigation.
If there were more like him, there might be a lot less ridiculous PR from psychics about helping police departments.