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Man dies at ball game trying to catch the ball

Just make the railings higher.
They look almost designed to be the perfect height to topple an adult over them headfirst.
No need to blame people stretching for balls, this could just as easily happen when there is crowd congestion at that level of terrace.
All it would take is a momentary stumble.
Its hardly going to cost a fortune to ensure that this doesnt happen to someone else.
 
scissorhands said:
Just make the railings higher.
They look almost designed to be the perfect height to topple an adult over them headfirst.
No need to blame people stretching for balls, this could just as easily happen when there is crowd congestion at that level of terrace.
All it would take is a momentary stumble.
Its hardly going to cost a fortune to ensure that this doesnt happen to someone else.
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Once again- the railings are higher than "minimum code" already.
You can't get the price for "partially obscured view" seats that you can for full-view seats--and the people one row higher or lower would belly-ache about how much more they had to pay..
If you make them higher, people can fall through below the rail height or if you put in another horizontal, people will simply climb on it to reach the ball-same problem
 
scissorhands said:
Just make the railings higher.
They look almost designed to be the perfect height to topple an adult over them headfirst.
No need to blame people stretching for balls, this could just as easily happen when there is crowd congestion at that level of terrace.
All it would take is a momentary stumble.
Its hardly going to cost a fortune to ensure that this doesnt happen to someone else.
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Maybe they could raise them high enough so the people in the first row can't even see the game!
 
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If people climb on the railings then it becomes another issue, and anything that happens to them as a consequence becomes their own responsibility.
Signs saying "dont climb on the railings" would help.
As it is, the railing heights look to be an accident waiting to happen, not just to over zealous ball catchers either.
 
The Central Scrutinizer said:
Maybe they could raise them high enough so the people in the first row can't even see the game!
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Maybe they could design the seating so there could be both a safe railing height AND the ability for people to see the game?
Last time I looked at railings, they werent solid, you could see through them, and if they were obstructing your vision of a particular area, you simply moved your head slightly to compensate.
 
Shannon Stone's wife gave a very nice statement:

We are also thankful for Nolan Ryan, Josh Hamilton, the Texas Rangers, the Rangers fans, and all baseball fans, which have showed such concern and compassion," Jenny Stone wrote in her first public comments. "While I was certainly surprised to hear Nolan Ryan on my phone on Friday morning, I was not surprised that he would act just like we all see him, as a true Texas gentleman. Josh Hamilton remains Cooper's favorite baseball player, the Texas Rangers will always be our team, and baseball will always be our favorite game. ... Shannon loved going to watch the Rangers and he loved Cooper. And, at the very end, he lived life to its fullest, doing something he loved.
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quadraginta said:
If someone needs to unwind so far that they no longer understand that falling onto concrete from twenty feet up is a bad idea then they need to find different ways to relax.

And since you bring it up, I was an usher in a movie theater back in the old days, when they still had balconies. People managed to fall from those, too.

It wasn't the movie's fault. Or the theater's.
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It is if the movie was "Glitter" or "Battlefield Earth."
 
scissorhands said:
Maybe they could design the seating so there could be both a safe railing height AND the ability for people to see the game?
Last time I looked at railings, they werent solid, you could see through them, and if they were obstructing your vision of a particular area, you simply moved your head slightly to compensate.
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Or maybe people could not lean over them to catch a ball?
 
The Central Scrutinizer said:
Or maybe people could not lean over them to catch a ball?
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Or trip over, or get accidentally pushed by a fellow fan.
After all, leaning over to catch a ball, is hardly the only way to end up toppling over a substandard safety railing, is it?
No, its better that you keep these clearly useless safety railings at the height they are, and blame anyone who topples over them, for being an idiot.
Its definately the cheaper option.
 
scissorhands said:
Or trip over, or get accidentally pushed by a fellow fan.
After all, leaning over to catch a ball, is hardly the only way to end up toppling over a substandard safety railing, is it?
No, its better that you keep these clearly useless safety railings at the height they are, and blame anyone who topples over them, for being an idiot.
Its definately the cheaper option.
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Ok, let's put them at shoulder height on the average American male--call it 5'9"-10 inches, so 4' 11" high .Now you need an intermediate or 2--what's to keep people reaching between them and falling out that way? and 2 intermediate rails gets people climbing on the bottom one to lean out. No solution there.
Current code is
Most major league ballparks across the country follow the International Building Code. The minimum height for railings at the bottom of aisles is 42 inches. In front of fixed seating, the requirement drops to 26 inches, which is about knee height.
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If my measurements are correct (Having sat in the upper bleachers there) the Ballpark at Arlington rails are at about 34". They've tried making them higher:
Since the new Busch Stadium opened in St. Louis five years ago, two people have fallen from the stands. When it opened, fans complained of compromised sight lines, which prompted the Cardinals to lower upper deck railing heights. Now, fans are voicing opposite concerns claiming railings are too low.
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Some people are never satisfied
 
You know, I've been to quite a few different countries, and everywhere that I can recall, it is very easy to step off a curb into the path of a moving car. Perhaps we also need to add some barriers between the moving cars and the pedestrians, or maybe people need to just pay attention.
 
Ron_Tomkins said:
I love how this thread became a target for unrestrained passive aggressiveness.
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I'm sure you're right and everyone should just stop posting in this topic. It's obvious that the safety of sports fans isn't that important.
 
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