Malcolm X

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What impact has Malcolm X's legacy had on the America of today?

Was he guilty of bringing black liberation to the point of armed conflict, or did he give power to blacks who believed or were taught that they had none?

Was he more effective than MLK in bringing the black man to the front of the political debate or did his in-your-face rhetoric (Consider his first public speech in which he pointed out the 'crackers' on the roof of the buildings) do more harm than good?
 
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At the very least, I would say he made certain that folks would pay attention the MLK's message of peaceful progress. Civil rights became a carrot and stick approach with X being the stick.
 
Undesired Walrus said:
What impact has Malcolm X's legacy had on the America of today?

Was he guilty of bringing black liberation to the point of armed conflict, or did he give power to blacks who believed or were taught that they had none?

Was he more effective than MLK in bringing the black man to the front of the political debate or did his in-your-face rhetoric (Consider his first public speech in which he pointed out the 'crackers' on the roof of the buildings) do more harm than good?
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He was the black version of George Lincoln Rockwell.
At least Rockwell used his real name.

George Lincoln Rockwell
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/George_Lincoln_Rockwell

Malcolm Little
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Little
 
drkitten said:
Ah, yes, Metapedia. A great source if you want to read about neo-Nazis in their own words.
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Are you claiming that Malcom X's real name wasn't Little - and this is merely a Neo-Nazi Conspiracy Theory spreaded via Wikipedia??? :confused::confused::confused:

So why the **** did you even bring it up in the first place if "Little" is correct?

Bored?
 
Oliver said:
Are you claiming that Malcom X's real name wasn't Little - and this is merely Neo-Nazi Conspiracy Theory??? :confused::confused::confused:
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Let's see. If I wrote that "He was the black version of Orville Wright. At least Wright used his real name," and then cited an "encyclopedia" that said that Orville Wright was the name of the Queen of Siberia and said that Malcolm X was a prima ballerina for the Dallas Cowboys, would the fact that Little was in fact Malcolm X's correct name make the "encyclopedia" any less gibberish?

Or the comparison any less (rule 10)?
 
Oliver said:
Are you claiming that Malcom X's real name wasn't Little - and this is merely a Neo-Nazi Conspiracy Theory spreaded via Wikipedia??? :confused::confused::confused:
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I'd advise that -if he were alive- you not point the above out to Mr X:

 
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"It’s just like when you’ve got some coffee that’s too black, which means it’s too strong. What do you do? You integrate it with cream, you make it weak. But if you pour too much cream in it, you won’t even know you ever had coffee. It used to be hot, it becomes cool. It used to be strong, it becomes weak. It used to wake you up, now it puts you to sleep."
"Message to the Grass Roots," speech, Nov. 1963, Detroit (published in Malcolm X Speaks, ch. 1, 1965).
 
moon1969 said:
Sounds like Malcolm didn"t like interracial marriages.
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Speeches Malcolm gave when he first gained attention differ from speeches after he left Elijah Muhammad's Nation of Islam (around 1964).


"In the past, yes, I have made sweeping indictments of all white people. I will never be guilty of that again -- as I know now that some white people are truly sincere, that some truly are capable of being brotherly toward a black man. The true Islam has shown me that a blanket indictment of all white people is as wrong as when whites make blanket indictments against blacks." - El-Hajj Malik (a.k.a. Malcolm X, 1964) Quote taken from Alex Haley's book An Autobiography of Malcolm X.
 
X once was asked by a young white girl what she could do to help black people. He replied 'Nothing' and walked away. According to an interview he gave in the latter part of his life, he regarded that moment as his most powerful mistake.

Oliver, I fail to see your point (And fail to see where he used that word).
 
Malcolm X began to have some acceptance of Whites only when he went to Mecca and saw there were some Whites (probably from the Balkans) who were also Muslims.
 
Oliver said:
I love you, UW! :) MalcomX himself said that he doesn't obey the by CAUCASIAN's given Name. That's terrific news! :cheerleader1
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And here you are, a Caucasian, insisting that his "real" name is the Caucasian name given to him. I guess that validates your Caucasian Theory of History.
 
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Undesired Walrus said:
X once was asked by a young white girl what she could do to help black people. He replied 'Nothing' and walked away. According to an interview he gave in the latter part of his life, he regarded that moment as his most powerful mistake.

Oliver, I fail to see your point (And fail to see where he used that word).
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Oh, Oliver's still trying to rally people to his ludicrous and poorly thought out thread on Caucasians being the root of all evil. He was just jumping on the use of the word.
 
So Oliver decides Little is his real name, only then to declare that it wasn't all along and decides it was forced upon him by the white slave-owners (The latter being correct).

Oliver,How often do you allow your view to change when it suits your poorly thought agenda?
 
I think Kookbreaker hit the nail on the head with his carrot and stick analogy. People like X, Stokely Carmichael and the Black Power/Panthers shifted the parameters of the debate.

As a sappy Liberal, King and the non-violent resistance is to me a far more inspiring and ultimately more productive response to oppression but it is undeniable that the rise of militants like X made people realise that by shunning the peaceful requests for equality what society could end up with was in essence a violent civil war in the major cities.

As he said himself,

"I want Dr. King to know that I didn't come to Selma to make his job difficult. I really did come thinking I could make it easier. If the white people realize what the alternative is, perhaps they will be more willing to hear Dr. King."
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He was also a highly charismatic and intelligent individual and an unbelievably powerful orator.
 
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