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Malaysia Airlines MH 370 Hoax

abaddon said:
Because everyone knows that disintegrating aircraft fragments cannot rotate, ever.

Sickest JREF thread ever.
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Almost, the only thing that saves it is that there are Holocaust denial threads. Still I put him about on par with that crowd.
 
Craig4 said:
Almost, the only thing that saves it is that there are Holocaust denial threads. Still I put him about on par with that crowd.
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Yup, it's right up there, but it is about garnering attention, and given the lack of said attention elsewhere, such an attention seeker must perforce become more outrageous and strident to gain such attention, regardless of the morality. IOW "2 hundred and some people die, look at me!" is all there is.
 
Dissolution said:
Why? You're basing this ludicrous claim on absolutely nothing.
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Maybe no plane will be found. And then debunkers will no doubt come up with exceptional cases about how a bomb can evaporate a plane, or how a plane can become buried under miles of sediment under the ocean, something like that. To preempt attempts like that, here is:

"The director-general, Mohd Amdan Kurish, said the ship was ordered to collect samples of the oil to determine if it came from the plane, Malaysia’s state-run Bernama news agency reported.

If the plane did crash into the sea, “obviously we will find clothes, bags and debris that float,” he added, according to Bernama." -- http://www.latimes.com/la-fg-wn-malaysia-airplane-missing-debris-20140309,0,113928.story
 
Anders Lindman said:
If emotions prevent one from looking into possible conspiracies, then that's a logical fallacy.
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And, as I said,.... I don't care about the logical fallacy. I care about the humans who were involved in this and other tragedies and whose deaths and losses you mock.

You apparently think this kind of crap is cute, as it seems to entertain you to come up with a ludicrous and tasteless (if not downright disgusting, depending on one's personal tolerance levels) alt dot history of tragic events that include accusing victims as being part of of conspiracy.

This accident is fresh. It just happened. Fog of war, and all that. There are always conflicting reports.

> The MY government reports the plane missing at 2:40 am
> The plane left the radar screens at around 1:25 am
OMG!! Conspiracy! No. It's just the official version of things because the aircraft was being passed off to HCM air control, apparently around 1:25 and after they couldn't locate it anywhere, HCM reported it missing an hour later, first (quite probably) thinking that there was an error somewhere.
The head of Malaysian Airlines reported that time because that's when they first truly realized they had a problem.

> The navy and air search is reported to be in the Gulf of Thailand.
> Wait, they've said they're checking the South China Sea.
OMG!!! Conspiracy! No. The Gulf of Thailand/Gulf of Siam has a loosey goosey "border" with the South China Sea. The area to search for wreckage or would encompass that gray area.

It's sundown over here, so they're not doing any searching other than electronic, right now. Let them do their stuff.

(Folks, over on RT comments.... "It was probably a mid-air collision with one of Obama's drones." Anders is almost a sweetie.)
 
Anders Lindman said:
Maybe no plane will be found. And then debunkers will no doubt come up with exceptional cases about how a bomb can evaporate a plane, or how a plane can become buried under miles of sediment under the ocean, something like that. To preempt attempts like that, here is:

"The director-general, Mohd Amdan Kurish, said the ship was ordered to collect samples of the oil to determine if it came from the plane, Malaysia’s state-run Bernama news agency reported.

If the plane did crash into the sea, “obviously we will find clothes, bags and debris that float,” he added, according to Bernama." -- http://www.latimes.com/la-fg-wn-malaysia-airplane-missing-debris-20140309,0,113928.story
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Why do you feel like you need hatred in your life?
 
Anders Lindman said:
Even if a wreckage is found, it could have been a plane without passengers or crew, like TWA 800.
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I'm going to repeat some advice I gave you last year:

SpitfireIX said:
Anders, why don't you visit Montoursville, PennsylvaniaWP, and explain to all the people there how 21 students and teachers from their high school either aren't really dead, or never even existed. I'm sure they'd be extremely interested in that information.
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Anders Lindman said:
"Appeal to emotion or argumentum ad passiones is a logical fallacy which uses the manipulation of the recipient's emotions, rather than valid logic, to win an argument." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion

Even if a wreckage is found, it could have been a plane without passengers or crew, like TWA 800.
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You know, an appeal to taste and respect for others need not be appeal to emotion. Especially when they are not debating if you are wrong, but debating if you should have started the thread at all.

Show a glimmer of humanity for once. Report your own thread and request it be deleted for reasons of taste.

ETA: I actually reported it myself. As I find the entire concept vulgar and uncivil. I asked that if the thread not be deleted it at least be held in storage for a suitable time of mourning lest anybody on the these forums has lost somebody, or for that matter finds the recent events emotive. I think this thread goes against the compassion that this community shows to each other, and to those in the wider world.
 
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Anders Lindman said:
The stolen passports seem real, yet the incident itself smacks of a hoax, as a media diversion from the Ukraine situation.

"Malaysia Airlines flight MH 370

... After the airline released a manifest of the 239 people on the plane, Austria denied that one of its citizens was on the flight as the list had stated. The Austrian citizen was safe and sound, and his passport had been stolen two years ago, Austrian Foreign Ministry spokesman Martin Weiss said.

Similarly, Italy's foreign ministry confirmed that no Italians were on the flight, even though an Italian was listed on the manifest. Malaysian officials said they were aware of reports that the Italian's passport was also stolen but had not confirmed it." -- http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/08/w...rlines-missing-passports/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

"(Reuters) - Radar tracking a missing Malaysia Airlines flight indicated that it may have turned back from its scheduled route to Beijing before disappearing" -- http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/09/malaysia-airlines-radar-idUSL3N0M605320140309

Only now they found out that the airliner had turned back? Surely those who tracked the plane's flight path live would have noticed that.
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Can't you people take anything at face value?
 
Foolmewunz said:
And, as I said,.... I don't care about the logical fallacy. I care about the humans who were involved in this and other tragedies and whose deaths and losses you mock.
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And if it's the ruling powers that are fooling you? And the whole incident fake. Then there are no plane victims involved for you or anyone else to care about.
 
abaddon said:
Because everyone knows that disintegrating aircraft fragments cannot rotate, ever.
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""The fact that we are unable to find any debris so far appears to indicate that the aircraft is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000 feet," said the source, who is involved in the investigations in Malaysia." -- http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-malaysia-plane-missing-20140309,0,1515462.story

Disintegrated in mid air? Do you claim Judy Wood's particle beam from outer space hit the plane? Or do you blame it on one of Jim Fetzer's mini nukes? :rolleyes::D
 
Why on earth would anyone create this story as a means to distract from the situation in the Ukraine?
It's done nothing of the sort. It would be an abject failure. It makes no sense.

Typical CT garbage.
 
Dissolution said:
Why on earth would anyone create this story as a means to distract from the situation in the Ukraine?
It's done nothing of the sort. It would be an abject failure. It makes no sense.

Typical CT garbage.
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I wrote this earlier:

"The interesting question is if this apparent hoax is meant to be more than just a media diversion. Could be. We will see what happens in the near future." -- http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9886564&postcount=4
 
So the supposed plane is supposed to have turned around and then disintegrated in mid air. Is anyone really buying that story?
 
Anders Lindman said:
I wrote this earlier:

"The interesting question is if this apparent hoax is meant to be more than just a media diversion. Could be. We will see what happens in the near future." -- http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9886564&postcount=4
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Which translates as, "I have no evidence to support my hypothesis and no reason as to why anyone would do it".
I really hope that you don't believe all of this stuff, but having browsed a few CT sites it's definitely a possibility.
 
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