Hello JREFers! This is my first post on this forum, though I have been a regular poster on the SLC, under the same nickname.
Now, on SLC I'm the author of a small (but growing) series of what I call "Studies of Facts and Theories", which try to find answers to the smaller questions that need to be addressed for the CTs to be anywhere near valid.
The first question was "Did a Missile hit WTC7", and it was in answer to the theory posted on both SLC and JREF by MaGZ. I just wanted to disprove the ridiculous theories first, and that was easily done with this by showing a picture of WTC7's south face, almost completely intact during and after the south tower collapse. MaGZ never answered after that.
The second question was "Were there firefighters in WTC7 at the time Larry Silverstein and Daniel Negro spoke on the phone". This is, well, currently still under debate, mostly because the firemen quotes do not agree on the subject, so it's open to interpretation. I say yes, there was, but of course CTists disagree.
The third question was "Explain the discrepancy with the bomb sniffing dogs". Or more precisely, if the dogs were pulled 4 days before 911, how could bombs have been placed in the weeks preceding 911? The point was declared moot by both sides since the dogs would probably have not been able to detect the explosives that were supposedly used (thermite), or even other specific types of explosives.
Question 4 is one of the CT-Stoppers. If a CTist cannot answer this question, you have effectively destroyed his theory. If no CTist can answer this question, the we (the OCTs) have won the battle:
"Name a set of the following that can survive a (conservative) 650 degrees Celcius fire: Explosive, detonator, and firing control (either wired or remote)". Since there is no answer to this question, there can be no victory for the CT side.
Question 5 asks: "Were the WTC7 fires minor?" and shows pictures from one Aman Zafar and others, who clearly show the massive column of thick, black smoke emanating from WTC7 shortly before it collapsed. A video also shows the smoke pouring out of just about every floor of the building. Even pdoherty76 admits the fires were not minor. This is only to show that no one can say "hey, explosives and detonators could have survived WTC7, you know, the fires were small!".
Question 6 asks: "What can clip 5 light poles, hit a generator, and still retain enough integrity, inertia and power to damage the Pentagon", to which there was no answer from CTists yet, but where the answer is obviously "nothing less than a very large plane". This is another CT-Stopper. If you can't say what hit the light poles and the generator, you cannot win. A missile can't do it. And don't spin a theory about rigged poles that ripped off by themselves, *there were people there and they reported no such things*.
Question 7 asks: "Does Pull It refer to demolishing a building with explosives?", obviously in reference to Silverstein's quote. A link to a YouTube video showing part of "America Rebuilds" shows what the CTists like to show (60 seconds with Silverstein in the middle) and it stops just before the second part of the video, which I link to: the demolition people at ground zero talking about "pulling building 6 with cables". No CTist has answered in this thread as of now.
I'm trying to find other questions like this that can be applied to obliterate the CTists claim, but it seems I've more or less scared away the CTists in SLC so I decided to come over here and try my hand.
Note that I want to first discuss the generality of this in this thread until I have enough posts to put links and such, then I will be re-posting my original SFT questions here in separate threads for easier discussions.
Here's the link to the SLC forum:
screwloosechange.xbehome.com/index.php?showforum=20
And my personal intro post (which is too long for the intro thread here):
screwloosechange.xbehome.com/index.php?showtopic=1519
Now, on SLC I'm the author of a small (but growing) series of what I call "Studies of Facts and Theories", which try to find answers to the smaller questions that need to be addressed for the CTs to be anywhere near valid.
The first question was "Did a Missile hit WTC7", and it was in answer to the theory posted on both SLC and JREF by MaGZ. I just wanted to disprove the ridiculous theories first, and that was easily done with this by showing a picture of WTC7's south face, almost completely intact during and after the south tower collapse. MaGZ never answered after that.
The second question was "Were there firefighters in WTC7 at the time Larry Silverstein and Daniel Negro spoke on the phone". This is, well, currently still under debate, mostly because the firemen quotes do not agree on the subject, so it's open to interpretation. I say yes, there was, but of course CTists disagree.
The third question was "Explain the discrepancy with the bomb sniffing dogs". Or more precisely, if the dogs were pulled 4 days before 911, how could bombs have been placed in the weeks preceding 911? The point was declared moot by both sides since the dogs would probably have not been able to detect the explosives that were supposedly used (thermite), or even other specific types of explosives.
Question 4 is one of the CT-Stoppers. If a CTist cannot answer this question, you have effectively destroyed his theory. If no CTist can answer this question, the we (the OCTs) have won the battle:
"Name a set of the following that can survive a (conservative) 650 degrees Celcius fire: Explosive, detonator, and firing control (either wired or remote)". Since there is no answer to this question, there can be no victory for the CT side.
Question 5 asks: "Were the WTC7 fires minor?" and shows pictures from one Aman Zafar and others, who clearly show the massive column of thick, black smoke emanating from WTC7 shortly before it collapsed. A video also shows the smoke pouring out of just about every floor of the building. Even pdoherty76 admits the fires were not minor. This is only to show that no one can say "hey, explosives and detonators could have survived WTC7, you know, the fires were small!".
Question 6 asks: "What can clip 5 light poles, hit a generator, and still retain enough integrity, inertia and power to damage the Pentagon", to which there was no answer from CTists yet, but where the answer is obviously "nothing less than a very large plane". This is another CT-Stopper. If you can't say what hit the light poles and the generator, you cannot win. A missile can't do it. And don't spin a theory about rigged poles that ripped off by themselves, *there were people there and they reported no such things*.
Question 7 asks: "Does Pull It refer to demolishing a building with explosives?", obviously in reference to Silverstein's quote. A link to a YouTube video showing part of "America Rebuilds" shows what the CTists like to show (60 seconds with Silverstein in the middle) and it stops just before the second part of the video, which I link to: the demolition people at ground zero talking about "pulling building 6 with cables". No CTist has answered in this thread as of now.
I'm trying to find other questions like this that can be applied to obliterate the CTists claim, but it seems I've more or less scared away the CTists in SLC so I decided to come over here and try my hand.
Note that I want to first discuss the generality of this in this thread until I have enough posts to put links and such, then I will be re-posting my original SFT questions here in separate threads for easier discussions.
Here's the link to the SLC forum:
screwloosechange.xbehome.com/index.php?showforum=20
And my personal intro post (which is too long for the intro thread here):
screwloosechange.xbehome.com/index.php?showtopic=1519
Plenty of people here, I'm sure, feel the same way.
