Make Mexico the 51th state! Good idea?

[Dustin Kesselberg]

I thought that this would be a great and novel idea. Get rid of the Government of Mexico and make it a 51th state. Get rid of the borders and allow anyone to go there or come here.

First we would need to put out a vote to all of the Mexican people. Decide wether they want to become the 51th state or not. If they vote No,Then we seal the border and be done with it.

If they DO then we get rid of the Govt of Mexico and establish it as a 51th state.

I equate it to allowing circulation back to a finger after it has been cut off by a rubber band. Once we establish Mexico as a 51th state and establish our govt there then you'd see a massive influx of money in and out of mexico thus building it's basic infostructure up to that of normal American infostructure. Like circulation returning back to a limb.

I imagine the west coast of Mexico would be alot like Clifornia and the middle of it alot like nevada or arizona. The southern parts alot like Florida. As far as infostructure goes.

I highly doubt the Mexican people or the Govt itself would challenge such a thing given a few years of preperation and what not.

I also think it would be ALOT easier to prevent terrorists from coming in since the link between mexico and south america is ALOT THINNER than the link between Mexico and America. We could EASILY maintain the border there since it's about 1/30th the size of the border between America and Mexico.



I have tried finding problems with this idea but I can't seem to find any. What are the potential problems with doing something like this? I post this here to get any opinions on it.

 

[Rob Lister]

You'll just move the line southward...although, once you get to the Panama Canal, border patrol/enforcement would be a lot easier.

Still, I'm against the idea of them becoming the 51st state. Maybe the 55th or so.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

What is the length of the panama canal? It's so extremly thin it would be EXTREMLY easy to guard such a border compaired to guarding 1,500 miles of mexican border!

 

[delphi_ote]

What is the length of the panama canal? It's so extremly thin it would be EXTREMLY easy to guard such a border compaired to guarding 1,500 miles of mexican border!

And if we annex the whole continent, we won't have any land borders to patrol!

 

[Zep]

You can't make Mexico the next US state! That honour belongs to Australia already!

 

[Tmy]

We wouldnt get along. The mexican voting block would start to run things and cause all sorts of problems.

Sort of like in Iraq! They cant gel in a democracy because of the tribal rivalry.


And have terrorists ever come in thru Mexico??

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

What sorts of problems? Mexicans already WANT democracy. That's why they are coming over to america by the millions every year!

 

[TragicMonkey]

I also think it would be ALOT easier to prevent terrorists from coming in since the link between mexico and south america is ALOT THINNER than the link between Mexico and America. We could EASILY maintain the border there since it's about 1/30th the size of the border between America and Mexico.

I didn't know any terrorists came over that border. I thought a couple made it over the Canadian border, and the rest entered legally?

And, of course, when you're discussing borders and ease of maintaining it, Mexico may have a shorter land border to the south, but it also has two significant coastlines, with a great many islands near one of them, some of which are other nations and others of which are possessions of still other nations. We'd switch from being a country with neighbors Mexico, Canada, Cuba, and Russia to being a country with dozens of neighbors. Sounds like an increased risk of border penetration to me, not a lower risk.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

How hard is it to guard the goastline of Florida or California? Extremly easy. We'd have the coast guard and tourists and everything else all over the beaches in mexico. It would be as easy to get into mexico from the coast as it is to get into california from the coast.

 

[Zep]

[cynic]

What makes you think that Mexico is NOT already a de facto state of the USA?

[/cynic]

 

[gtc]

Just a small nitpick, why only one state for all of mexico? Don't they already have states (or whatever they call them).

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Haven't you been watching the news lately? The whole controversy over imigration!

If Mexico was a 51th state then there would be no more problems with imigration of mexicans to America.

Mexico would be built up over a few years into how modern American states are today because of the massive circulation of money in and out of it.

No more corrupt Govt in Mexico. No more of those Problems.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Just a small nitpick, why only one state for all of mexico? Don't they already have states (or whatever they call them).

We'd abolish them. Just seems simpler.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Just seems like this would solve just about EVERY problem with imigration.

Over population
Wages
Taxes
Terrorists
Jobs(Lots of new jobs could appear with US using resources in mexico to their best ability,Much more effective than Mexico is doing now).

 

[gtc]

We'd abolish them. Just seems simpler.

Fair enough, can you get abolish Nebraska while your at it? It seems like there are too many states beginning with N.

And what about Canada? Absorbing Canada would improve your national ice hockey team and it would finally stop the Canadians from whining aboot the big bad US, eh.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Fair enough, can you get abolish Nebraska while your at it? It seems like there are too many states beginning with N.

And what about Canada? Absorbing Canada would improve your national ice hockey team and it would finally stop the Canadians from whining aboot the big bad US, eh.

Except Canadians don't want to be part of America and I don't blame them really..

Mexicans WANT to be American as is evident by them rushing to america at a rate of millions a year.

We would make a "vote" where every mexican could vote and decide wether USA make mexico a 51th state or not.

If Yes then we do it over a process of several years.

If No then we throw all of the mexicans out of our country and reinforce the border.

Seems simple and fair to me.

 

[Nyarlathotep]

What sorts of problems? Mexicans already WANT democracy. That's why they are coming over to america by the millions every year!

Democracy has nothing to do with why Mexicans come over here. Mexico is a democracy already. Mexicans come over here because there are more opportunities to make money on this side of the border. Economics is why they come here, not politics.

 

[Bjorn]

What about making every single poor country in the world the 51st, 52nd, 53rd .... 143rd state?

Just seems like this would solve just about EVERY problem with immigration.

Over population
Wages
Taxes
Terrorists
Jobs (Lots of new jobs could appear with US using resources in poor countries to their best ability, much more effective than poor countries are doing now).

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Democracy has nothing to do with why Mexicans come over here. Mexico is a democracy already. Mexicans come over here because there are more opportunities to make money on this side of the border. Economics is why they come here, not politics.

Mexico may officially be a Democracy but it isn't anything like American Democracy.


They come here to make more $.

If Mexico was a 51th state then they would have the 5$ minimum wage laws applied to it. Companies could work in mexico easier and come in and out easier. So could people.

New businesses would spring up by the thousands in Mexico with it being part of America.

The basic infostructure would improve because of the massive influx of $.

Like a limb who's circulation is cut off...The blood flow could be fixed and it would be strong.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

What about making every single poor country in the world the 51st, 52nd, 53rd .... 143rd state?

Just seems like this would solve just about EVERY problem with immigration.

Over population
Wages
Taxes
Terrorists
Jobs (Lots of new jobs could appear with US using resources in poor countries to their best ability, much more effective than poor countries are doing now).

When applied to the entire world it would not work. America isn't powerful enough to do such a thing..Make the whole world America and fix the problems that way. But In the distant future I see absolute globalization as an option. Where there is only one world Government.

But when applied to a single country like Mexico it would work in just a few years. Mexico isn't being used to it's full advantage but if it were america it would be just like nevada or california.

Overpopulation is a problem because Mexicans are flooding here and leaving mexico. The population of Mexico is dropping drastically each year.

People would start dispersing into Mexico if it became a 51th state. People would leave mexico less and less with the wages being the same in mexico as in America.