Magnets can treat depression

Acleron said:
Hardly no side effects.
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Read again, it clearly states "POTENTIAL adverse events include...". They are more worried, for now, about its efficacy, and yes, optimal parameters are required for the procedure. All in all, whats wrong in trying? Studies should be serious, no doubt about it. Is it proved, no. Is it interesting, yes.
 
Bodhi Dharma Zen said:
Read again, it clearly states "POTENTIAL adverse events include...". They are more worried, for now, about its efficacy, and yes, optimal parameters are required for the procedure. All in all, whats wrong in trying? Studies should be serious, no doubt about it. Is it proved, no. Is it interesting, yes.
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You read it, I supplied the link.
Apart from hearing loss these are reported side effects in the studies they examined. Having once happened, they become potentially able to happen again.
 
I read it. Yes, potentially. Look, why do you (and others) assume that I'm "defending" this? I believe it is interesting, and a forum with thinking people normally gets exited by interesting information.

Lately, this forum has become something like "fast, attack the woo, put him to his knees, he is always an idiot". Anything that "smells" like woo and people instantly attacks. In the OP I clearly state that these are not the magnets you have in your tool box, in ANY case this is science no magic.

Anyway, the first paragraph of the link you supplied states that:

"Current evidence suggests that there are no major
safety concerns associated with transcranial
magnetic stimulation (TMS) for severe depression.
There is uncertainty about the procedure’s clinical
efficacy, which may depend on higher intensity,
greater frequency, bilateral application and/or
longer treatment durations than have appeared in
the evidence to date. TMS should therefore be
performed only in research studies designed to
investigate these factors."
 
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I wasn't attacking you, merely putting your statement that there are no side effects into perspective. Those side effects mentioned have actually happened. NICE thinks that they are not sufficiently serious to stop more trials of these devices.

And, yes, novel observations are always interesting, it does not preclude a slightly more deeper examination of what is going on, that's interesting too. :)
 
Acleron said:
And, yes, novel observations are always interesting, it does not preclude a slightly more deeper examination of what is going on, that's interesting too. :)
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Well of course! And it might be me, maybe this whole "new year" stuff its making me see things that might not be there.. or to put it in other words, more "sensitive" ;)

Nope, no "paranormal" stuff, mere emotional states.
 
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Interesting if true. Unfortunately, magnets have never helped me with depression. Plus, they taste just awful.
 
Ivor the Engineer said:
LOL! What were you planning to do with the rats?
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Boring as it may seem, the idea was to try to stimulate only one side of the brain. The commercial units stimulate far too large an area to be used with rats. The arc-over was due to my own clumsiness in setting up testing rigs to measure the fields I was generating. I wasn't getting high enough fields and the voltages were starting to get very difficult to handle (2 kV +), so I decided it was more than I was prepared to risk
 
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