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[TurkeysGhost]

I'm thinking, a pretty penny, a shinny dime, a first class quarter, and a sizable stack of cold hard cash to boot.
If he got a tenth of what they were going for it'd still be a substantial amount in the lower eight figure range.

If

 

[eeyore1954]

I'm extremely confident he would not have accepted any settlement that left him in debt to his lawyers.

If he didn't come away with a penny, he came out with a positive reputation and publicity as the kid who took on big media.

But I'll bet he also came away with a penny or two.

At least a few 1909 S VBDs in MS 67+
A few wartime coppers.
And an 1864 Indiand Heads in MS 66+ if one exists
and lots more

IMO no way he walked away with less that 10,000,000. But that is nuisance money to some large companies.

I don't know if he deserved to get it but they difinately deserve to pay it.

 

[Thermal]

Looking at the thread title, is our OP next on the litigious chopping block?

 

[Meadmaker]

Looking at the thread title, is our OP next on the litigious chopping block?

I don't think Travis has deep enough pockets to make it worth the effort.

Also, we internet yappers aren't expected to maintain standards.

The only role that the OP and posts like it play in this litigation is evidence. The OP repeating the falsehoods of the story is proof that Sandmann's reputation was actually damaged.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

At least a few 1909 S VBDs in MS 67+
A few wartime coppers.
And an 1864 Indiand Heads in MS 66+ if one exists
and lots more

IMO no way he walked away with less that 10,000,000. But that is nuisance money to some large companies.

I don't know if he deserved to get it but they difinately deserve to pay it.

Lol ok.

I posted this long thread from an actual litigation attorney last time this went around. It's a long read but worth it.

https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/status/1287597289255710720

Two things can be true at once. The news really, really screwed up this story in a way that painted Sandmann in an unfairly dim light. Also, the 1st amendment provides wide protections to the press, including when they get stories dead wrong.

Sandmann's case was always a long shot because it wasn't enough to prove that the press got it wrong, they have to prove that they intentionally got it wrong.

They don't want to waste money on lawyers even on a case they know they'll win, so they throw Sandmann and his attorneys maybe 5 figures to go away rather than squashing them in the dirt. Not a terrible outcome for Sandmann, but not exactly hitting the lotto either.

The theme of this coverage should have been: “With his case hanging by a rapidly unraveling thread, the Covington kid decides to call it quits.” Instead, because media has been gutted, a huge portion of people think Sandmann is on his way to becoming a billionaire.

 

[plague311]

They don't want to waste money on lawyers even on a case they know they'll win, so they throw Sandmann and his attorneys maybe 5 figures to go away rather than squashing them in the dirt. Not a terrible outcome for Sandmann, but not exactly hitting the lotto either.

I was thinking the same thing. All of the research I've done shows that it's just as likely he walked away with $20k a piece from CNN and WaPo than it is he walked away with anything substantial.

Personally, I think it shakes out something like this:

Lawyers: We'll cover your attorney's fees and give you $20k for this lawsuit.

Nick: I am suing you for $250 million, I want more.

Lawyers: No, but we'll do both of us a favor. We'll make the deal confidential. That way you look like you're coming out ahead, and we get this to go away.

Nick isn't going to be a millionaire, and for all this nonsense I hear about Rittenhouse suing, what's he going to sue for?

 

[Warp12]

I get the sense that some here hope that Sandmann didn't get very much money.

 

[sir drinks-a-lot]

I get the sense that some here hope that Sandmann didn't get very much money.

Well, he was wearing a MAGA hat. Which makes him a white supremacist. Or something.

 

[Meadmaker]

I get the sense that some here hope that Sandmann didn't get very much money.

I hope he didn't get very much money, but I'm generally sour on litigation.


What happened to him was bad, but not all that bad. I don't see any reason for people to get rich just because something kinda sorta bad happened to them. I think the kid should still have to work for a living.

 

[rockinkt]

I get the sense that some here hope that Sandmann didn't get very much money.

Yep - the poor losers of this forum are really full of hate when their little SJW narratives get all spoiled by facts.
They had a young white boy to crucify and they went at him with pitchforks and burning brands. No remorse when it turned out that their precious hatred was based on falsehoods and exaggerations. Now they are trying to minimize his huge wins by pretending to themselves that he got no worthwhile recompense.
Funny how they are mostly the same people that fell for the Jussie Smollet story and claimed anyone who thought it didn't add up was a racist.
What a joke!

 

[rockinkt]

I hope he didn't get very much money, but I'm generally sour on litigation.


What happened to him was bad, but not all that bad. I don't see any reason for people to get rich just because something kinda sorta bad happened to them. I think the kid should still have to work for a living.

I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't like to be publicly humiliated worldwide and called vile and despicable things like he was for something he didn't do.
He was hated for even existing. He and his parents got death threats. His school disowned him. His life was hell.
His name will be forever tainted by that hell he was put through.
If you think what he went through publicly was "not all that bad" - why do you hide behind a false name on an obscure forum?

 

[TurkeysGhost]

I hope he didn't get very much money, but I'm generally sour on litigation.


What happened to him was bad, but not all that bad. I don't see any reason for people to get rich just because something kinda sorta bad happened to them. I think the kid should still have to work for a living.

I mean, it's not like his litigation strategy was bad. It was meant as a PR stunt as part of a larger strategy to rehabilitate his imagine after being smeared by the press that was very much a success. But let's not kid ourselves that this thing was somehow a multimillion dollar payday.

Sandmann's PR strategy very successfully vindicated his reputation and rubbed the media's face in the mess they made on the carpet, and probably got a bit of pocket change out of it, but you live in a fantasy land if you think he got rich off this.

 

[Meadmaker]

I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't like to be publicly humiliated worldwide and called vile and despicable things like he was for something he didn't do.
He was hated for even existing. He and his parents got death threats. His school disowned him. His life was hell.

For a couple of days. Then it got better. See SuburbanTurkey's most recent post.

If you think what he went through publicly was "not all that bad" - why do you hide behind a false name on an obscure forum?

Who else is going to listen to me? It's this, or rant at passersby on a streetcorner.

ETA:

I mean, it's not like his litigation strategy was bad. It was meant as a PR stunt as part of a larger strategy to rehabilitate his imagine after being smeared by the press that was very much a success. But let's not kid ourselves that this thing was somehow a multimillion dollar payday.

Sandmann's PR strategy very successfully vindicated his reputation and rubbed the media's face in the mess they made on the carpet, and probably got a bit of pocket change out of it, but you live in a fantasy land if you think he got rich off this.

Exactly. The kid ended up pretty well off, reputation wise. I'll bet he even got some money out of it. Perhaps enough for a college education and a car. I'll bet he didn't get as much as his lawyers.

ETA2: And, regardless of what he actually got, which I have no way of knowing, my personal opinion is that he should have gotten something out of it, but not a lot.

 

[plague311]

I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't like to be publicly humiliated worldwide and called vile and despicable things like he was for something he didn't do.
He was hated for even existing. He and his parents got death threats. His school disowned him. His life was hell.
His name will be forever tainted by that hell he was put through.
If you think what he went through publicly was "not all that bad" - why do you hide behind a false name on an obscure forum?

LoL man, the right really does have a victim complex.

I mean, I'm sure you had this same foot stampy style argument when AOC was targeted relentlessly for the myriad of lies you and your ilk have made about her, right? You jumped up and stood up for her. Talked about how her feelings were hurt. How terrible her life has been.

Rittenhouse is riding the tide to speeches. He's cashing in on what happened. How has he been damaged in anyway? It's as funny as it is stupid.

When was the last time you heard about this guy? Seriously, ******* when? How many times have you heard of him since this even took place?

 

[plague311]

I'm not sure who this guy is but according to his twitter:

A federal judge in Kentucky today granted summary judgment motions from five media companies (NYT, ABC News, Gannett, CBS News and Rolling Stone) in defamation cases from Nick Sandmann.

I was able to find one article on it, but it's behind a paywall. If anyone else finds one I'd be interested to read the details.

All-in-all it doesn't look like Sandmann is walking away with much of anything. Even if he settled with some of them in other cases the attorney's fees for this case probably ate it all up.

 

[Ranb]

There are other sources.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...tion-lawsuits-against-cbs-abc-nyt-and-others/

https://www.mediapost.com/publicati...udge-dismisses-teenagers-libel-suit-stem.html

Ranb

 

[Stacyhs]

There are other sources.
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...tion-lawsuits-against-cbs-abc-nyt-and-others/

Ranb

From your link:

After years of politically charged litigation, former Covington Catholic High School student Nick Sandmann has lost a round of high-profile defamation lawsuits against five mainstream media companies at the summary judgment stage. That’s according to court dockets and an opinion and order signed by a federal judge in the Eastern District of Kentucky on Tuesday.

Sandmann’s cases against ABC News, Rolling Stone magazine, CBS News, newspaper and television station owner Gannett, and The New York Times are now officially listed as “terminated” on the court record.

All parties moved for various forms of summary judgment, and a judge agreed to dismiss the cases by agreeing with the five media defendants and disagreeing with Sandmann’s attorneys.

 

[dann]

If anyone else finds one I'd be interested to read the details.

There was also a video:

Covington Catholic MAGA-Goober Court Case CRUSHED BY JUDGE!!! (Jesse Dollemore on YouTube, July 28, 2022 - 8:54)
Jesse talks about the long-awaited decision from the federal judge in the case brought against several media organizations by the MAGA-hat-wearing Covington Catholic student Nick Sandmann. Although CNN and NBC chose to settle early with Sandmann, every other media organization that decided to fight for their 1st Amendment rights ended up prevailing in the matter!

CNN and NBC must be kicking themselves for having settled out of court.
I wonder if Sandman is still looking as smug as he did back then. I haven't seen any recent photos.

 

[crescent]

There was also a video:


CNN and NBC must be kicking themselves for having settled out of court.

The conservative media really, really, REALLY rubbed their faces in those settlements, making all sorts of unsubstantiated claims about how huuuuge those settlements were.

So yes, I really hope they are kicking themselves. They appear to have scored a pair of own goals.

 

[plague311]

CNN and NBC must be kicking themselves for having settled out of court.
I wonder if Sandman is still looking as smug as he did back then. I haven't seen any recent photos.

Yeah, so all things said and done I'm going to stick with my previous assertion. I think he got less than $50k between CNN and NBC, combined, and now he's getting absolutely nothing else.

Tough stuff for the kid. I bet he really thought he had a payday.