Lucianarchy and remote viewing

Lucianarchy said:


I don't know, do you read XMEN comics then?
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Actually, I don't anymore. I used to. I never actually thought that the events and powers depicted were real though. Why do you think people have superpowers? Oh yea, because of the "evidence". LOL.
 
Lucianarchy said:


Terrorist attacks do not "happen all the time", which is what you claimed.
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They do. A terrorist attack happens somewhere in the world every week, and sometimes every day. Don't you watch the news or read the papers or any magazines?

This was a major news story when it got out.
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Hardly. Major for the people involved, sure. But almost anything can be considered major when it happens to you. From a world news perception, this wasn't even on the radar.

Had the device exploded this would have been a major disaster which would have included countless numbers of children. Click the 'Proof' link in my sig ( needs Real Player)
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How do you define major disaster? If I were in the blast radius, it would be a HORRIBLE disaster for me! But for someone half a world away it's just something that happened. Personally, I'd feel bad for those affected, but in that distant, remote way, because I don't know them.

But the only way I even HEARD of this incident is because of this thread. If I hadn't read it, I never would have heard of Ladybrooke or the failed terrorist attack.

and notice how Ladybrook was the location for this attack. If this would have gone off, I guess some would call me a ghoul.
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I would not have. Hypothetically speaking (VERY hypothetically speaking) if you could report on an event yet to happen, it's not like it's your fault that it does happen. I find it pointless that IF you had a power like that, that it would be absolutley useless to prevent such a tragedy. I guess we can chalk that up to your "psirony" too. :rolleyes:

Thankfully, it failed to explode. Given this thread title and the taunts of TBK this was an extraordinarily germane, truely psironic example of the effect.
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Just because you can assert something, it doesn't mean it's true.
 
Ratman_tf said:


Hardly. Major for the people involved, sure. But almost anything can be considered major when it happens to you. From a world news perception, this wasn't even on the radar.

How do you define major disaster? If I were in the blast radius, it would be a HORRIBLE disaster for me! But for someone half a world away it's just something that happened. Personally, I'd feel bad for those affected, but in that distant, remote way, because I don't know them.

But the only way I even HEARD of this incident is because of this thread. If I hadn't read it, I never would have heard of Ladybrooke or the failed terrorist attack.

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How about if this had happened in Washington DC? Maybe the people there are more important than people living on a working class estate in Ireland?

Your refutation fails on crass, ignorant subjectivity.
 


How about if this had happened in Washington DC? Maybe the people there are more important than people living on a working class estate in Ireland?


From a world-wide perspective, yes. More people know of Washington DC.

Lucky: This was a major news story when it got out.

Ratman: Hardly. Major for the people involved, sure. But almost anything can be considered major when it happens to you. From a world news perception, this wasn't even on the radar.

Lucky:Your refutation fails on crass, ignorant subjectivity.
You say this fails on due to subjectivity.......... that means your claim that it was a "major" event is also subjective and fails.

You just defeated yourself.
 
I'm new here, but I have read this thread all the way through. I'm no computer expert, but given what hackers can do with viruses and worms, is there any possibility that Lucianarchy (aided by a hacker, perhaps) could have faked the first ladybrook post?

I notice some 'computery' stuff here as I post, vB code, normal and enhanced mode and suchlike.

This is probably quite innocent stuff, but could something have been encoded in the ladybrook post that allowed Lucianarchy to insert the word at a later time?

I mean something like:

code=space reserved for 'blank' word.

Later post: code=activate word in earlier post to show "ladybrook"

malc
 
malcolmdl said:
I'm new here, but I have read this thread all the way through. I'm no computer expert, but given what hackers can do with viruses and worms, is there any possibility that Lucianarchy (aided by a hacker, perhaps) could have faked the first ladybrook post?

I notice some 'computery' stuff here as I post, vB code, normal and enhanced mode and suchlike.

This is probably quite innocent stuff, but could something have been encoded in the ladybrook post that allowed Lucianarchy to insert the word at a later time?

I mean something like:

code=space reserved for 'blank' word.

Later post: code=activate word in earlier post to show "ladybrook"

malc
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I would tend to say 'No'. Just as Geller doesn't need lasers or magnets to bend his spoons. He just does it when people aren't looking.

Lucianarchy dropped a word, and got a cold hit. A weak one at that.
 
Lucianarchy said:


How about if this had happened in Washington DC? Maybe the people there are more important than people living on a working class estate in Ireland?
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Not more important. You're the only one who brought that up. Maybe that's your opinion? I sure hope not.

But more widely known? Sure.

Your refutation fails on crass, ignorant subjectivity.
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No. Your strawman of my refutation does. Good job. :rolleyes:
 
Lucianarchy said:


How about if this had happened in Washington DC? Maybe the people there are more important than people living on a working class estate in Ireland?
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The funny thing is, according to PEAR's Global Consciousness Project, they are. They looked for an "effect" in the "field consciousness" caused by a terrorist attack in NI and it didn't register at all. I'd have to check, since my memory is lacking, but I think the US charity telethon "From Sea to Shining Sea" got a greater response. It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.
 
Luci,

You missed a big one this weekend. All you had to do was type, 'Japan'. What a useless gift you have!
 
Welly, welly, well. What do we have here?

In a document dated Aug 9, 2001, at http://www.psicounsel.com/postinfo2.html Lucianarchy, "spiritual SISTER" (sic) of proponents of subjects as paranormal phenomena, astrology and ufo research, and cited by Dan Kettler about USENET, is quoted as saying (in part):
...proponents should not be chased
away from their meeting places
by bullies, terrorists and
materialist fundamentalists...
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And then:
Luci: [These] Net Loons have about one to two
years left until the tables are turned
in dramatic style.
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(bold face by me).

Aug 9, 2001 - Sep 29, 2003. A good two years. Is this psirony, Luci? Have the "rabid-randi-pseudo-sceptics" stopped posting after being exposed? Has a new age of "light, love, peace, knowledge, truth... and humanity" dawned already? Are you celebrating?

Bump! to avoid pruning of the evidence.
 
Chupacabras said:
Welly, welly, well. What do we have here?

In a document dated Aug 9, 2001, at http://www.psicounsel.com/postinfo2.html Lucianarchy, "spiritual SISTER" (sic) of proponents of subjects as paranormal phenomena, astrology and ufo research, and cited by Dan Kettler about USENET, is quoted as saying (in part):

And then:

(bold face by me).

Aug 9, 2001 - Sep 29, 2003. A good two years. Is this psirony, Luci? Have the "rabid-randi-pseudo-sceptics" stopped posting after being exposed? Has a new age of "light, love, peace, knowledge, truth... and humanity" dawned already? Are you celebrating?

Bump! to avoid pruning of the evidence.
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Lookee, lookie here. Catch this deathless prose

"Luci:

Usenet is growing rapidly. New posters will arrive
in droves during the coming years and the
persistence of regular, logical and coherent
proponents of the paranormal will enable
the continued discussion of paranormal events
in a news group free from kooks, scam artists,
power freaks and other generally nasty people. "

Bold is mine.


My (Psi)Irony meter is busted:roll:
 
But she did prove it. Haven't you been following the Ladybrook
affair? What more proof could you possible want!?

Since she predicted one or two years, this is yet another example of remote viewing. This time, she remote viewed the future !

I am converted. There is a god and he has blessed some of us with amazing paranormal powers that are utterly useless. Praise Jebus!
 
I would tend to say 'No'. Just as Geller doesn't need lasers or magnets to bend his spoons. He just does it when people aren't looking. Lucianarchy dropped a word, and got a cold hit. A weak one at that.
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Normally, I would be in complete agreement with you. The two things that bother me are the temporal proximity of the 'hit' and the actual event, and the relatively unusual name. i.e. 'ladybrook' rather than, let's say 'Gaza'.

That points me to:

1. A computer trick with timestamps (timezones) or javascript.

2. Insider information

I notice from the Jacqui Poole murder thread that Lucianarchy seems to know the 'psychic' in this case and supports her vigorously with appeals to authority that would have warmed the cockles of Dr Harold Shipman's murderous heart.

That 'psychic' is apparently in Ireland now and possibly in contact with Lucianarchy on a regular basis.

These two possibilities have not yet been ruled out.

Of course, if I were a psychic detective, I could solve this case in seconds.;) Certainly, Lucianarchy's 'powers' must kick in very infrequently given that no more 'demonstrations of proof' have been forthcoming.

malc
 
malcolmdl said:


Normally, I would be in complete agreement with you. The two things that bother me are the temporal proximity of the 'hit' and the actual event, and the relatively unusual name. i.e. 'ladybrook' rather than, let's say 'Gaza'.
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That's why they're called coincidences. They do happen.

We have no knowledge of the level of expertise Lucianarchy has with computers, javascript, whatnot. It would be futile to try and find out, since Luci could feign ignorance, or just be ignorant of programming techniques like that.
 
Ratman_tf said:


That's why they're called coincidences. They do happen.

We have no knowledge of the level of expertise Lucianarchy has with computers, javascript, whatnot. It would be futile to try and find out, since Luci could feign ignorance, or just be ignorant of programming techniques like that.
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Maybe you should consider a exciting new career as a "all remote viewing hits are coincidences laboratorist" where you will work around the clock using highly scientific experiments to prove this.:crazy:
 
Luck? Make my day..


There has been *plenty* of evidence for the existence of the psi effect. If presented in a court of law, the evidence , in total, would not all, each, and every account, be dismissed as being either fraud, error or delusion. It has been proven to exist beyond all reasonable doubt.

My own experiences, including the 'ladybrook' perception have provided me with self evidence. I can tell you the effect exists. If you want to call it luck, so be it, maybe that's why so many butterflies settle on me. I can also tell you that, like a butterfly, the effect evidently makes its *own* choice where it settles.
 
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