Lucianarchy and remote viewing

[CFLarsen]

Nope, this was the real deal. It happened just like I said it did.
A ladybrook 'lucky hit' to something of that magnitude ( a terrorist attack in Ladybrook within an hour or so of it being recorded here ) would require odds against chance which would be astronomical, and you know it. I understand if you want to wish it away to luck, but I'm a skeptic, not a wishful thinker. Sorry about that.

No, no, no....it did NOT happen "just like" you said it did.

You appended a word to a post of yours, in the very thread that questioned your psychic abilities, in a post that was about something else.

No explanations whatsoever. Not even that this was something so forceful that you had to write it down.

The forum clock was messed up at the time.

However, it was shown that you had posted the word after the incident happened.

It was much, much later, that you came up with the explanation that this was a premonition of things to come.

It doesn't even take a skeptic - just a clear-headed person - to realize what went on. You have a very hard time distinguishing reality and fantasy. I know that you will keep claiming that you got a psychic flash of some kind.

You did not.

 

[Lucianarchy]

However, it was shown that you had posted the word after the incident happened.

Complete bulls**t. *All* you can do is throw ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ and wishfull thinking, it is the most desperate form of pseudo-skepticism / psychological denial / cynicism I have seen. It was certainly not shown that I had "posted the word after the incident happened", there may have been a few wackos who wanted to *believe* that, but there were people here who saw the post before the terrorist event happened and have simply not got the integrity, honesty or decency to publicly admit to it, which says more for the kind of 'skepticism' you promote than any critic could.

Sorry, Liarson, this *was* a "psychic flash", as you call it. It really was. I have told you before that as a skeptic, these effects spook me sometimes with their psironic nature, but obviously, given the dishonesty and lies you have tried to use to deny and protect your narrow, zealous mind-set, this one really scared the pants off *you*. WEll good, sometimes such a wake-up call is the best form of education. Keep up the outward denial if you want, Claus, maybe you have to given the corner you have painted yourself into, but we all know this happened. Right here. In this thread. Psirony.

 

[asthmatic camel]

I just yawned so widely at this thread that the top of my head fell off.

 

[Lucianarchy]

I just yawned so widely at this thread that the top of my head fell off.

Translation: It's scared the crap out of you and made you rethink everything you have been lead to believe.

Otherwise you wouldn't have even bothered responding.

 

[CFLarsen]

Complete bulls**t. *All* you can do is throw ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ and wishfull thinking, it is the most desperate form of pseudo-skepticism / psychological denial / cynicism I have seen. It was certainly not shown that I had "posted the word after the incident happened", there may have been a few wackos who wanted to *believe* that, but there were people here who saw the post before the terrorist event happened and have simply not got the integrity, honesty or decency to publicly admit to it, which says more for the kind of 'skepticism' you promote than any critic could.

Whoa...what, in your post, said anything about a terrorist event? What, in your post, said anything about it being a psychic flash?

Sorry, Liarson,

It's Larsen.

this *was* a "psychic flash", as you call it. It really was. I have told you before that as a skeptic, these effects spook me sometimes with their psironic nature, but obviously, given the dishonesty and lies you have tried to use to deny and protect your narrow, zealous mind-set, this one really scared the pants off *you*. WEll good, sometimes such a wake-up call is the best form of education. Keep up the outward denial if you want, Claus, maybe you have to given the corner you have painted yourself into, but we all know this happened. Right here. In this thread. Psirony.

Oh, I'm REAL scared, Lucianarchy. I notice that you do not try to refute what I say. Instead, you just call me "scared".

Next time, try to state what it means, or even what it is, before it happens, OK? You have not been able to convince anyone.

 

[Pyrrho]

Complete bulls**t. *All* you can do is throw ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ and wishfull thinking, it is the most desperate form of pseudo-skepticism / psychological denial / cynicism I have seen. It was certainly not shown that I had "posted the word after the incident happened", there may have been a few wackos who wanted to *believe* that, but there were people here who saw the post before the terrorist event happened and have simply not got the integrity, honesty or decency to publicly admit to it, which says more for the kind of 'skepticism' you promote than any critic could.

Sorry, Liarson, this *was* a "psychic flash", as you call it. It really was. I have told you before that as a skeptic, these effects spook me sometimes with their psironic nature, but obviously, given the dishonesty and lies you have tried to use to deny and protect your narrow, zealous mind-set, this one really scared the pants off *you*. WEll good, sometimes such a wake-up call is the best form of education. Keep up the outward denial if you want, Claus, maybe you have to given the corner you have painted yourself into, but we all know this happened. Right here. In this thread. Psirony.

ROFL! You posted the word, "ladybrooke" with no other details, and because some incident occurred in "Ladybrooke", you've been trying to inflate that into a major psychic vision. Next time, try making a genuine psychic prediction. This lucky-hit-word-game method just ain't convincing.

Claus, myself, and others like us aren't in denial, Luci. We're laughing at your self-delusion and unshakeable egotism. This is almost as funny as your "psychic worms on Mars" routine.

 

[CFLarsen]

Translation: It's scared the crap out of you and made you rethink everything you have been lead to believe.

Otherwise you wouldn't have even bothered responding.

Hey, if you think we are scared because we respond to you, what are you, since you run away from the questions put to you?

How should we translate that, Lucianarchy?

 

[asthmatic camel]

Translation: It's scared the crap out of you and made you rethink everything you have been lead to believe.

Otherwise you wouldn't have even bothered responding.

Scared ? My big fat wobbly a*se. The only thing I'm scared of is the thought of reading any more of your drivel.

My book is still available for remote viewing.

Regards,

AC.

 

[thaiboxerken]

I pretended that I had superpowers when I was a child. Why hasn't Lucianarchy grown out of that phase? Does it make you feel special to roleplay that you are a telepath/claivoyant, Lucky?

Maybe you should explain your powers of perception to your local insane asylum, I'm sure they'd love to hear about it.

This thread has long outlived any rational discussion. All we have here is one, ONE person crying that they have superpowers, a person in denial of reality.

 

[Ratman_tf]

Nope, this was the real deal. It happened just like I said it did.
A ladybrook 'lucky hit' to something of that magnitude ( a terrorist attack in Ladybrook within an hour or so of it being recorded here ) would require odds against chance which would be astronomical, and you know it. I understand if you want to wish it away to luck, but I'm a skeptic, not a wishful thinker. Sorry about that.

The magnitude of your prediction is questionable. A failed terrorist incident in a region plagued by upheval and terrorism.

Why don't you actually figure out the odds of this being a lucky word drop for us? I'd be interested in seeing your rationalizations.

But you won't. Denial ain't just a river in egypt.

 

[athon]

OK. My curiousity is piqued.

Nobody seems to be analysing this is a seriously critical manner. So here's my deduction:

Luci posted a single word that later had relevance to an incident in another part of the world. It could have happened in one of the following ways-

1) Luci heard the word clairaudiantly through a means science is yet to quanitify.
2) Luci guessed the word through understanding ongoing turmoil in the relative region.
3) Luci read an article on the attack and went back and edited the posting retrospectively.

At this point, I can't think of any other significant ways of producing this result.

Now for some deduction.

1) Difficult for us to evaluate with the means at hand.
2) Unlikely that Luci guessed - Ladybrooke is not 'Belfast', and is a little too unusual for a straight out 'guess'. Luci is not known to throw random words out like this, hence the 'guess' theory is flawed. If there was a history of this behaviour, with a high incidence of being wrong, I'd give it more credit.
3) Is there some means a post can be edited without having the post labelled as such? And if so, can we check to see if this was the case? Surely there'd be some way of inspecting this?

Hence until we can discount all possibilities, the action is neither proven nor disproven, and therefore it is not to be taken into account as significant evidence.

Now, can anybody answer this?

Athon

 

[Ceinwyn]

I would like to remind people here that what Lucianarchy claims as a "terrorist attack" was not in any sense an attack. Some people were caught with some equipment, but nothing actually happened.

Luci, I cannot believe you are still spouting this nonsense. If for nothing else but your tenous credibility, give it up.

 

[KelvinG]

Ladybrook.
Ladybrook.
Ladybrook.

Help me...can't stop typing Ladybrook.
Have been taken over by forces I can't control.

Ladybrook.
Ladybrook.
Ladybrook.
Ladybrook.
Ladybrook.
Ladybrook.
Ladybrook.
Ladybrook.
Ladybrook.

 

[Ceinwyn]

OK. My curiousity is piqued.

Nobody seems to be analysing this is a seriously critical manner. So here's my deduction:

Luci posted a single word that later had relevance to an incident in another part of the world. It could have happened in one of the following ways-

1) Luci heard the word clairaudiantly through a means science is yet to quanitify.
2) Luci guessed the word through understanding ongoing turmoil in the relative region.
3) Luci read an article on the attack and went back and edited the posting retrospectively.

At this point, I can't think of any other significant ways of producing this result.

Now for some deduction.

1) Difficult for us to evaluate with the means at hand.
2) Unlikely that Luci guessed - Ladybrooke is not 'Belfast', and is a little too unusual for a straight out 'guess'. Luci is not known to throw random words out like this, hence the 'guess' theory is flawed. If there was a history of this behaviour, with a high incidence of being wrong, I'd give it more credit.
3) Is there some means a post can be edited without having the post labelled as such? And if so, can we check to see if this was the case? Surely there'd be some way of inspecting this?

Hence until we can discount all possibilities, the action is neither proven nor disproven, and therefore it is not to be taken into account as significant evidence.

Now, can anybody answer this?

Athon

Ok, I will.

Athon, I'm sensing the word "Sudbury". Now, let's see if something happens there. If not, then the word can be ignored. If so, then I must be psychic, right?

Keep in mind, I can use the word to mean anything, anywhere. It's just one word.

 

[Ceinwyn]

One other thing. If Lucianarchy is so hot with the remote viewing, how come he didn't predict the blackout?

Or will he just say he knew it after the fact, just like always?

 

[athon]

While I'm totally not discounting the 'guessing' option, I still don't think it is valid. Ladybrooke is not a prominant part of Belfast, and there are other cities that would have been more obvious to refer to.

It would have been a lotto win if Luci had picked it out of thin air, even narrowing down 'hotspots'. For example, if I were to use this method, I might say 'Indonesia', based on recent eents surrounding the Bali bombing trial, or 'Jakarta', rather than 'Mentang', a suburb within Jakarta.

See? I think labelling it a guess is a desparate stab at the claim just to discount it, and lacks any real sign of critical consideration. In other words, it is pretty shameful for a skeptic to simply say 'bah, you guessed', when if it was a guess, it was a damn good one. There are other fields we should look at first.

So again, I say is there a method Luci could have used to alter the post? Did anybody read the post before the incident and see the word?

If the answers are 'no' and 'yes', then we have deducted one possible method, and must explore the other two possibilities.

Athon

 

[Ceinwyn]

Athon:

It was not a good guess at anything. It was one word thrown in at the end of a post. Nowhere did Lucianarchy say "this is my prediction" or "this word means something". It was one word that could've meant anything. As proof of supernatural abilities, or as Luci likes to call it, "psirony", it is useless.

You seem to have your own agenda about this particular business; whatever it might be, a good grounding in logic would help you greatly.

 

[Ratman_tf]

While I'm totally not discounting the 'guessing' option, I still don't think it is valid. Ladybrooke is not a prominant part of Belfast, and there are other cities that would have been more obvious to refer to.

It would have been a lotto win if Luci had picked it out of thin air, even narrowing down 'hotspots'. For example, if I were to use this method, I might say 'Indonesia', based on recent eents surrounding the Bali bombing trial, or 'Jakarta', rather than 'Mentang', a suburb within Jakarta.

See? I think labelling it a guess is a desparate stab at the claim just to discount it, and lacks any real sign of critical consideration. In other words, it is pretty shameful for a skeptic to simply say 'bah, you guessed', when if it was a guess, it was a damn good one. There are other fields we should look at first.

You're assigning meaning after the event. Luci never mentioned anything about terrorists, or Belfast, or even that the word Ladybrook meant anything.

So again, I say is there a method Luci could have used to alter the post? Did anybody read the post before the incident and see the word?

If the answers are 'no' and 'yes', then we have deducted one possible method, and must explore the other two possibilities.

Athon

I'm unclear on the whole 'edited post' thing, so I refrain from commenting on it. It might have been, it might not. Hell, it wasn't even a real prediction so I find that argument pretty superfluous.

 

[Lucianarchy]

Hal has said that if you edit a post within 2 minutes of first posting it, you do not get an "last edited..." message.

 

[Lucianarchy]

It is certainly beyond normal to have an uncommon word running around in your mind with an urgency that compels you to record it in an opening post on a thread which was taunting my RV ability and to have that recorded word named as the place where a terrorist attack occured within an hour and a half of its recording on this forum. 'Ladybrook' is an extremely uncommon word, I have seen the other cynics and their jokes about 'new yourk, houston and grass fires, car crashes etc, but eveyone knows that ladybrook is far more uncommon than any of those places and the event, a terrorist attack far more important than grass fires and power cuts. The event also took place within a very short space of time of impression bieng recorded. This perception replicates many other instances I have experienced and together with the extraordinary experiences with Dr Steinkamp, I cannot rationaly put all this down to 'luck' or 'chance' anymore. So yes, I believe that the perception was paranormal. I have always remained skeptical though open-minded and I have no mundane explanation for what happened.