Lucianarchy and remote viewing

[Ceinwyn]

Ok Luci. How about we replicate what happens with this RV power that you have?

Simply name a place and time and tell what specifically is going to happen. This is what's called a "prediction", and is what RVers all over claim to be able to do, you included.

If you can do that, then I will consider taking you seriously.

 

[AlienX]

I agree with you Buki, we can argue and name call all day and we will not get anywhere. We need some more structured testing but Luci will/can not do it I assume the reason will be is "it doesn't work that way" (I'm not taking the piss here I really think this will be the reason and if true then it's valid but then what use is the ability).

So we have Luci who's ability is not of the style that is open to testing so it's pointless them really participating at all. Unless of course he/she has a more test friendly ability.

I don't understand why people who claim these so called abilities get so worked up and upset when people try and debunk their claims, it's just the general scientific approach to "normal" science why get upset when it's applied elsewhere?

All i can suggest is that next time you make it clear that what you have written down was the result of a feeling or compulsion etc.
With an open mind i'm sure you would admit that it is possible that we all have random thoughts about places / people things etc and this could have simply happened to you and your applying some significance to a random thought.. it's certainly possible thats all it is - it could have been phychic in origin but the support evidence is very weak.

If you feel the impulse to name call me etc - then don't waste any bandwidth and post. You can but i'm not sure if I will care - you can give it a shot but it will not divert me away from the fact that we need some better testing done.

Thus the only way to really move forward is to do some more testing. None of it totally scientific but hey it will be interesting and will certainly supply some room for some serious name calling etc.. could be a laugh.

AlienX

 

[Dogwood]

Reply: I did not design the experiment. I recruited the controls. It was not my experiment. It was totally blinded. The blinding was broken by rain and dogwood by their publicly discussing it on this forum before the expeirment was finished. I took the responsibility for not fully explaining to these two out of 15 controls what blinding is and why they shoudn't discuss it publicly before the trial was complete. My bad. I already said so. The other 13 housewifes and businessmen somehow knew about blinding and did not discuss it publicly or violate the protocol. But clearly for those two it was my fault and I accept that repsonsibility.

Steve,

I have absolutely no desire to return to this old argument, but I must insist you report the facts correctly. Neither Rain nor I publically discussed the experiment before the experiment was over on this forum or any other. My review and Rain's comments were made after the week was over, not before.

 

[SteveGrenard]

Mark: I have absolutely no desire to return to this old argument, but I must insist you report the facts correctly. Neither Rain nor I publically discussed the experiment before the experiment was over on this forum or any other. My review and Rain's comments were made after the week was over, not before.

And I must insist on reporting that the study, feedback forms from conrols and follow-ups went beyond the week. This was my bad. There was no pre-set determination for the completion within precisely 1 week, 7 days or 168 hours for all participants. In your case and Rain's, this was evidently the perception and it was my fault for not cautioning you about this. As you will recall I was not posting here at the time and was advised by others who read the threads here that you and Rain were discussing the results of the project (not in general terms) but in questionnaire answers and specifically problems such as those caused by gender differences. I was advised in one case by another control who was not done so this invalidated her and everyone who came before. Fortunately we had additional backup controls.

This would have been fine if everything was done. The entire project went on for several more trials which were also my fault for not warning you about but customarily blinded conrols (and I was blinded to details as well) are not told this. Again my fault.
I should have issued a blanket No Discussion rule until the investigator(s) told me it was okay.

As you know it was not I who brought this up yet again. I am not that senile yet where I need to obsess on everything in the past.

 

[Dogwood]

Steve,

I acknowledge that you didn't bring this up and I respect the fact that you are accepting responsibility, however the scenario you describe is still not correct. The instructions we received from Schwartz specifically said not to discuss the experiment "until the week was over". Furthermore, I e-mailed you before I posted my review. You were originally reluctant but eventually encouraged me to release it saying it might generate useful feedback. If you'll review your old e-mails, I think you'll see this to be the case.

I hope this puts this issue to a close. I am looking forward to some positive discussions on the other thread.

 

[asthmatic camel]

Lucianarchy, I have a book on top of my pc tower in a well lit room. I shall leave it there for 7 days, please advise of the author's name and the title.

I can't wait to hear from you.

Regards,

AC

No reply so far. Come along Lucianarchy get those superpowers in gear. Provide the title and the name of the author and I shall be convinced.

I still can't wait to hear from you.

Regards,

AC

 

[Lucianarchy]

No reply so far. Come along Lucianarchy get those superpowers in gear. Provide the title and the name of the author and I shall be convinced.

I still can't wait to hear from you.

Regards,

AC

As I do not claim to be able to do what you want, nor does anyone else, AFAIK, then you will have to wait until you hear from yourself. That time being, presumably, when your comprehension or maturity reaches a rational, oprational level.

 

[thaiboxerken]

As I do not claim to be able to do what you want, nor does anyone else, AFAIK, then you will have to wait until you hear from yourself. That time being, presumably, when your comprehension or maturity reaches a rational, oprational level.

LOL. So, now you can't see into people's houses. Ok, then what about the lottery number claim?

 

[AlienX]

I'm not sure how you can say that asthmatic camel is being immature?
Sorry I just don't get it at all - he's asked a perfectly reasonable question - the only flaw I can see is that he doesn't understand what your actually claimed "powers" are. How this means he is immature is simply beyond me?.

Just because someone does not agree with you and asks questions your unable to answer does not make them a bad person.

The result is you have not shown any ability so far which could be considered of phychic in origin.

You refuse to be tested as apparently being tested is immature and childish .. huh wtf is all that about?

Really if your going to claim phychic abilities then you should come forward with some damn good data to back up your claims. The history of fraud and cheating in this department warrents extra special care when designing experiments compared to other areas.

In reality phychic ability may be a real phenomena but so far all you have demonstrated is that you have none whatsoever. That's not to say you don't have but your unable to provide any good data so it's just as good as.

Do you have any "powers" which we could test on these boards?
or are you a "proffessional" phychic who charges for their services and thus won't do a freebie?

I'm certain if I do get a reply it will involve some other personal attack on this post, question my maturity /age/ mental state etc etc. I insist you don't bother unless it's some really good specific predicton (or it's a really clever nasty attack - that gives me a laugh).

AlienX

 

[asthmatic camel]

As I do not claim to be able to do what you want, nor does anyone else, AFAIK, then you will have to wait until you hear from yourself. That time being, presumably, when your comprehension or maturity reaches a rational, oprational level.

Errr, seeing as the remote viewers claim to be able to describe distant astronomical bodies, I thought that my book would be a fairly easy target.

As for comprehension and maturity, well, the word Ladybrook included in an internet post indicates precognitive abilities ?

Hmmmmm.

I'm still "sending" the front cover of my book, no doubt some psychic somewhere has the ability to contact my deceased relatives and friends in an attempt to describe it accurately.

Yours immaturely,

AC

 

[dingler44]

Ladybrook.

2nd post in the thread.

Proven within an hour and a half.

Please grace us with your next "post-prediction." I know everyone here is sweating with anticipation.

If you decide to do this, please start a new thread... this one here is a little bit messy!

 

[Lucianarchy]

As for comprehension and maturity, well, the word Ladybrook included in an internet post indicates precognitive abilities ?


AC

It is certainly beyond normal to have an uncommon word running around in your mind with an urgency that compels you to record it in an opening post on a thread which was taunting my RV ability and to have that recorded word named as the place where a terrorist attack occured within an hour and a half of its recording on this forum. 'Ladybrook' is an extremely uncommon word, I have seen the other cynics and their jokes about 'new yourk, houston and grass fires, car crashes etc, but eveyone knows that ladybrook is far more uncommon than any of those places and the event, a terrorist attack far more important than grass fires and power cuts. The event also took place within a very short space of time of impression bieng recorded. This perception replicates many other instances I have experienced and together with the extraordinary experiences with Dr Steinkamp, I cannot rationaly put all this down to 'luck' or 'chance' anymore. So yes, I believe that the perception was paranormal. I have always remained skeptical though open-minded and I have no mundane explanation for what happened.

 

[asthmatic camel]

It is certainly beyond normal to have an uncommon word running around in your mind with an urgency that compels you to record it in an opening post on a thread which was taunting my RV ability and to have that recorded word named as the place where a terrorist attack occured within an hour and a half of its recording on this forum. 'Ladybrook' is an extremely uncommon word, I have seen the other cynics and their jokes about 'new yourk, houston and grass fires, car crashes etc, but eveyone knows that ladybrook is far more uncommon than any of those places and the event, a terrorist attack far more important than grass fires and power cuts. The event also took place within a very short space of time of impression bieng recorded. This perception replicates many other instances I have experienced and together with the extraordinary experiences with Dr Steinkamp, I cannot rationaly put all this down to 'luck' or 'chance' anymore. So yes, I believe that the perception was paranormal. I have always remained skeptical though open-minded and I have no mundane explanation for what happened.

Iraq

Regards,

AC

 

[asthmatic camel]

Or how about Bleak House Farm ? Or Moss Side ? Or Toxteth ?
Not too hard to make a prediction that something will happen soon is it ?

 

[thaiboxerken]

. I have always remained skeptical though open-minded and I have no mundane explanation for what happened.

No, you're not skeptical. And you are closed off to the world of reality. Instead, you live in your own little world where you have superpowers.

Mundane explanations for your "feat" have been presented. You have convinced ZERO people with your lastest stunt.

 

[Lucianarchy]

Or how about Bleak House Farm ? Or Moss Side ? Or Toxteth ?
Not too hard to make a prediction that something will happen soon is it ?

But it was Ladybrook, hardly known in comparison to those places, and it was within an hour and a half of the perception being recorded here.

 

[Ersby]

But it was Ladybrook, hardly known in comparison to those places, and it was within an hour and a half of the perception being recorded here.

Surely the unusualness is a cultural thing. Ladybrook may be unknown to most, but to people in Belfast, the name could be more known. As an example, when Renata suggested "Van Nuys", that name, to me, sounds much more unlikely than "Ladybrook".

And as for the time of posting, you've put it anywhere between 2.33 and 3.33. It's clear you either do not know, or will not say.

Just editing, since I don't want to bump this thread up: if you look here...

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24442

You'll see the poster tim makes a "prediction a la Lucian" re. a TV show concerning Stephen Turoff.

 

[Ossai]

Lucianarchy

I have always remained skeptical though open-minded and I have no mundane explanation for what happened.

Your entire claims of paranormal insight hinges on ignorance.

 

[alfaniner]

Lucianarchy
Your entire claims of paranormal insight hinges on ignorance.

No, es entire claim of paranormal insight relies on ignorance.

 

[juninho]

The data speaks for itself.

LOL! Would that be the same kind of data speaking for itself as the data you stated speaking for itself wrt your credentials when working for the home office. You don't half talk a load of cack.