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Lucianarchy and remote viewing

Yes, David. That is the system which the JREF Forum operates under, GMT Western Europe. You can check for yourself quite easily, because if you are a registered member you will discover that if you look at your settings options under the user cp, the default setting is GMT Western Europe.
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Look at the image I posted. The forum clock, obstensibly GMT, is an entire hour different to the time on that image, which is GMT/UTC.

This "Western Europe" business means nothing. BST is GMT+1. GMT does not change during the year.

I've started a post in the Admin Discussion Area about the clock. According to one user it's varied by 20 minutes already today. I'd say that's enough evidence that it's unreliable.

David
 
God, I feel so soiled to have been drawn into this.

When I replied to Lucky, I don't remember the word "ladybrook" appearing in her post. Like a critically thinking fool, I focused on the "substance" of her post.

I had to go back and find the first mention of it well after it was mentioned again on page 2. It does seem tacked on, whether from editing on the fly or stream of conciousness, Lucky only knows for sure.

Some super power :rolleyes:
 
Lucianarchy said:
A stupid, over zealous cynical one.
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Why? It is because I am right?

Lucianarchy said:
Now, the honourable thing for you to do now is apologise, it has been proven that the Forum runs under the default of GMT (WE) and given that it has been stated that the forum was running at -40mins, then I posted at 2.53pm and Corbin at 3.55pm, both well before the incident took place.
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Excuse me?

You want me to "apologize"?? For what? You are plain wrong, Lucianarchy!
 
c0rbin said:
God, I feel so soiled to have been drawn into this.

When I replied to Lucky, I don't remember the word "ladybrook" appearing in her post.
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Well, Corbin, you are not very observant, because it was included within the post which you quoted. :rolleyes:
 
Luci, WET is like GMT. It doesn't change during the year. What we call BST is just an extra that we add during the summer. The underlying WET/GMT/UTC time remains the same.

Look at that page you linked:

Western European Standard Time (WET) is Greenwich Mean Time (GMT).
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Now look at the main page that I linked:

but GMT remains the same all year around.
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Now, back to that page you linked:

After the Summer months the time is shifted back by 1 hour to Western European Time (WET) or (GMT)
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How can it be shifted back to WET/GMT, when you maintain we are always on WET/GMT?

Anyway, it's pretty clear the forum clock is screwed. There's probably no way now of accurately figuring out the time of yours or Corbin's posts.

David
 
Lucianarchy said:


Well, Corbin, you are not very observant, because it was included within the post which you quoted. :rolleyes:
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It's likely that you relied upon people not observing the word. That way, if nothing happened, no one would notice. Now that something happened that contains 'ladybrook', you can claim a prediction. A prediction that you didn't make.

A random word tossed at the end of a post is not "RV", even if an incident comes up where that word appears.

So, we have a couple of possibilities.

1. You cheated and placed the word there as a prediction of an event you came through to find out about using mundane methods.

OR

2. You tossed a word in there in hopes that something would happen somewhere that has a connection to "ladybrook", knowing full well that if nothing happened, people wouldn't have picked up on the word.
 
davidhorman said:
Luci, WET is like GMT. It doesn't change during the year. What we call BST is just an extra that we add during the summer. The underlying WET/GMT/UTC time remains the same.
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David, I can't believe you are finding this so difficult!

The forum runs on default GMT Western European! Check it out under the settings! The WET system accounts for the + 1 hour BST and reverts to the base GMT in the winter!

Aye Carumba! :rolleyes:
 
The WET system accounts for the + 1 hour BST and reverts to the base GMT in the winter.
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Once again:

GMT remains the same all year around.
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Western European Standard Time (WET) is Greenwich Mean Time (GMT).
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That's all it says. It doesn't say "WET is GMT, plus an hour during the summer" does it?

Perhaps your confusion comes from where they show the current GMT time next to what they say is the current WET time (works in IE only). But see that little asterisk? That indicates that they've added daylight savings time. It's a very confusing, not least because it directly contradicts the statement on the page that WET is the same as GMT.

David
 
davidhorman said:


That's all it says. It doesn't say "WET is GMT, plus an hour during the summer" does it?
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Perhaps they should put that in then to be a bit more helpful for people like you. :rolleyes: The WET system accounts for +1 in line with most of western Europe and reverts to base GMT in winter, though it is still referred to as WET all year round regardless of the winter /summer time shifts.

David, let's make this simple for you. Look at the bottom of this page. It says times are in GMT. OK? Well, does that time reading displayed there show base GMT or does it show the +1 hour BST adjustment? It shows the adjustment. Now, if you go check your user cp, you'll see that the default for the forum actually says 'GMT Western European' which is a system which accounts for the Euro summer / winter time shifts. OK? Do you understand now?
 
David, let's make this simple for you. Look at the bottom of this page. It says times are in GMT. OK? Well, does that time reading displayed there show base GMT or does it show the +1 hour BST adjustment? It shows the adjustment.
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Okay, let's look at this page:

http://www.worldtimezone.com/wtz-names/wtz-wet.html

This says WET is equivalent to UTC which is equivalent to GMT.

Let's not forget the one I've already quoted:

Western European Standard Time (WET) is Greenwich Mean Time (GMT).
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Here's an even more interesting one:

http://www.timeanddate.com/time/abbreviations.html

WET - Western Europe Time - UTC - Lisbon during winter
WEST - Western Europe Summer Time - UTC+1 hour - Lisbon during summer
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WET does not include any kind of savings time - it just doesn't fall under the function of a time zone. When Lisbon goes into Summer, it uses WEST, not WET.

David
 
Who cares about the clock

Lucianarchy,

Obviously no one is going to give on the clock. You can render the point meaningless by taking and passing Alienx's remote viewing test or davidhorman's lottery test.

What do you say?

Thanks,
Jeff
 
I advise everyone who actually cares to take Luci's advice and check your options in the control panel. The options for time zone are listed as GMT - 12, GMT -11...etc etc. The option marked GMT is identified as Western European Time, making it patently obvious that WET and GMT are exactly the same thing. GMT does not change throughout the year, according to the official GMT website. Case closed.

In any case, to get from BST to 'forum time', yesterday I had to subtract 19 minutes. Today when I checked, it was 7. The forum clock is clearly unreliable, and cannot be used as proof of Luci's claims.
 
davidhorman said:


Okay, let's look at this page:

http://www.worldtimezone.com/wtz-names/wtz-wet.html

This says WET is equivalent to UTC which is equivalent to GMT.

Let's not forget the one I've already quoted:



Here's an even more interesting one:

http://www.timeanddate.com/time/abbreviations.html



WET does not include any kind of savings time - it just doesn't fall under the function of a time zone. When Lisbon goes into Summer, it uses WEST, not WET.

David
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:rolleyes: Yes, WEST is WE Summer Time and WET is WE Time, fortunately for people like you they haven't got WEWT too, it would probaly blow your mind in the complexity of it all! WE Time is a system which accounts for either WEST / WEWT and uses the base GMT, which is independant of either, to account for the seasonal time changes in Western Europe. Are you still having trouble here?

The real issue here is about the JREF Forum time system. I repeat, as you seem to have glazed over this crucial issue: Look at the bottom of this page.

It says times are in GMT.

OK?

Well, does that time reading displayed there show base GMT or does it show the +1 hour BST adjustment?

It shows the adjustment.

Now, if you go check your user cp, you'll see that the default for the forum actually says 'GMT Western European' which is a system which accounts for the Euro summer / winter time shifts.

The bottom line, whether you want to get more wet or not over this, :rolleyes: is that the forum displays what is commonly called BST GMT+1. As you said, the clock was - 40mins when Corbin posted, which puts his post at 3.55pm BST.

This was well before the terrorist attack took place.

What now? Huge coincidence? Am I a terrorist suspect?
 
Lucianarchy said:
Now, if you go check your user cp, you'll see that the default for the forum actually says 'GMT Western European'
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No, it doesn't. It says GMT, and identifies this as Wester European. Big difference.
 
Lucianarchy said:


What now? Huge coincidence? Am I a terrorist suspect?
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I think that logic and honesty are the things that you terrorise most.

:D

Oh, huge coincidence? I think not, a small coincidence is what I see. That's assuming that you didn't cheat.
 
Re: Who cares about the clock

Starrman said:
Lucianarchy,

Obviously no one is going to give on the clock.
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Then it shows how dishonest they are and unable to admit to a mistake.

Anyone here in the UK can look at the bottom of the page here and see that it says 'all times are in GMT' and look at their own watch or ring up 'Tim' and see that the forum is not reading base GMT at all it is actually reading BST / GMT+1, / Western European Time. It also confirms the default GMTWET status in the cp settings.

So if you don't "give in" to something you can look at on your wrist or by any other simple checks, then you are clearly, quite, quite stupid.
 
Martinm said:
No, it doesn't. It says GMT, and identifies this as Wester European. Big difference.
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:rolleyes: OK, just forget whatever you want to call it. :rolleyes: Martin, what time does it read on the forum now? Is it GMT or GMT+1/BST?
 
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