Lord Language Resurrection.

[Craig4]

It will not be so of course.
Because every man will get 26 weeks of creative vacation in a year.
So every man first time in the human history will get the great real ability as minimum not to do what he does not want to do and as maximum to do what he really wants to do.

If one of my team members tried to do that I would fire him.

 

[bruto]

I did not tell you to give to your dog the droppings in the cat's litter box.
I told you to give to your dog the raw meat and the raw fish before eating those food yourself.


People buy to their dogs the expensive dog food, but their dog happy to eat the feces of other animals and humans.
It means that some important for dogs substances are absent in this expensive feed.
And people who often love their dogs more than an other people do not care.

The phrase "sick as a dog" has meaning in part because, whether you want to believe it or not, a dog will eat indiscriminately, the wrong things and the wrong amounts. What a dog eats does not necessarily mean that it is lacking something in its diet that it should have. There are many obese and unhealthy dogs whose owners indulge their love of the wrong food, and many dogs that die, just as humans do, of ailments both preventable and not preventable.

It's true that some people seem to love their dogs more than they love other people, but those who truly love them will probably be feeding them carefully on dog food that is carefully formulated for them.

Of course you did not suggest that we, like dogs, eat cat poop, but you did suggest that we use the digestive capacity of dogs as a guide for what we can digest, and that is simply crazy.

 

[Craig B]

Doesn't matter. You are citing dogs as a dietary guide ignoring the fact that dogs will happily eat their own vomit. Are you suggesting that eating ones own vomit is a healthy thing simply because dogs do it?

Proverbs 26:11

As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.​

How true!

 

[bruto]

If one of my team members tried to do that I would fire him.

This has been such a long thread for so long a time that I cannot remember which things I've mentioned before, but the suggestion in this case reminds me of an "intentional community" whose members I once met. Long long ago I worked for a community that ran on communal principles with some success (Camphill Village, USA, if anyone is interested - it's on the web I think nowadays), and we were occasionally visited be people from other such communities, and at one time we were visited by some people from the then new Twin Oaks community. That still exists as well, but no longer as it was founded, as a by-the-book embodiment of BF Skinner's Walden II. If you're familiar with that one, it's a work of fiction in which Skinner put forth some of his ideas on an ideal society, which to many would seem a gray mush of a clean but passionless order, in which the economy was managed according to the desirability of a job. The nastiest jobs were paid the highest, and hours the shortest. No coercion was involved, so basically one would choose an available job, do it, then sit back and let others do the rest. In actual practice, because the incentive was entirely economic rather than social, nobody could be made to do a job whose only attraction was its necessity. People who loved to teach or do clerical work would do it, despite poor pay, those with a crafting impulse worked in the industry that supported them (mostly hand woven hammocks, as I recall) and those who wanted to get it over with cleaned the toilets and scrubbed the pots, but the sheep got out because nobody could command "you need to fix the fence."

Anyway, Cosmo's plan reminds me of this utopian fever dream.

 

[Craig B]

Cosmo's plan reminds me of this utopian fever dream.

Did Walden have compulsory Hebrew lessons, meals consisting of fifteen pounds of unsalted uncooked buckwheat mash, and courts presided over by robot judges? No. So I would amend "utopian dream" to "dystopian nightmare" though I think the word "fever" can be left where you put it.

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

Well let's see. I can competently programme 6500 series, 6800 series, Z80 series, 8086 series, 40,000 series, C, C++, VB, VC, Perl, Java, Javascript and I have passing familiarity with half a dozen more, so I am already miles beyond your imaginary friend. Your so-called robot is utter rot. And that is a qualified professional determination.

I can not evaluate your speech professionally.
So I have to believe either you or my friend.
Let's say you're right and it is impossible to make the robot judge without reforming the existing laws under its capabilities.
In this case it is necessary to reform the existing laws under the order of the real robot judge that we can create.
In the beginning, of course the judge-robot will be just the assistant of judge-man.
But gradually it will take on more and more functions and the time will come, when the judge-robot will make may be not 100% of the judge-man’s work, but 90%.
Today, there is no real equality before the law.
Today, judges are overworked by 2-3 times, and therefore the quality of professional judgments is very poor.
Laws must be invented and constructed not only by groups of lawyers but also by groups of system analysts and robot programs makers.
Better if these two specialties will be in one head of laws designer.

I am an atheist. I believe nothing on faith.

I hope that you believe that for about 17 months I eat only in the 7th Days of each week.

I don't believe you. You have previously demonstrated that you cannot fathom simple addition right here on this very site.

2*2=4

Even if true, you claim that you do not even live in that country.

I need not live in US to say the correct fact that today the purchasing power of the average American family at the same level as it was in 1958.

Incoherent.

Life experiancy in USA http://demog.berkeley.edu/~andrew/1918/figure2.html


1958 Men 66.6 Women72.9
average 69.75

http://www.infoplease.com/world/statistics/life-expectancy-country.html
2015
79.68

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

Really? Which is why the UK have a good chance of voting to leave.

For me it is absolutely clear that EU is much more advanced social model than the USA.
That’s why USA makes barriers to EU.
Great Britain is the “Trojan horse” of USA in EU.

Israel is neither holy nor resurrected, BTW. Israel would have to develop a respect for human rights and International Law before anyone considered letting them into any club at all.

The greatest evidences of the 20th century:
Resurrection of Holy Language.
Holocaust.
Resurrection of Israel.
Resurrection of Shabatons of Torah.
Resurrection of non Galut Era after 2500 years of Galut.

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

There'd be very good reasons why countries didn't leap at the chance of being enslaved by the power-hungry exploitative centralising imperialist Britain, but for the life of me, I can't bring them to mind right now.

I can’t understand you.
Today are you for establishing the Union of all English-speaking States or oppose?

 

[abaddon]

Well let's see. I can competently programme 6500 series, 6800 series, Z80 series, 8086 series, 40,000 series, C, C++, VB, VC, Perl, Java, Javascript and I have passing familiarity with half a dozen more, so I am already miles beyond your imaginary friend. Your so-called robot is utter rot. And that is a qualified professional determination.

I can not evaluate your speech professionally.

No kidding.

So I have to believe either you or my friend.

Your imaginary friend.

Let's say you're right and it is impossible to make the robot judge without reforming the existing laws under its capabilities.
In this case it is necessary to reform the existing laws under the order of the real robot judge that we can create.
In the beginning, of course the judge-robot will be just the assistant of judge-man.
But gradually it will take on more and more functions and the time will come, when the judge-robot will make may be not 100% of the judge-man’s work, but 90%.

Now, you are proposing the change the law to fit the robot. Cart before the horse.

Today, there is no real equality before the law.
Today, judges are overworked by 2-3 times, and therefore the quality of professional judgments is very poor.

Nobody made any claim of perfection. Strawman rejected.

Laws must be invented and constructed not only by groups of lawyers but also by groups of system analysts and robot programs makers.
Better if these two specialties will be in one head of laws designer.

Baloney. Again. You are advocating dictatorship.

I am an atheist. I believe nothing on faith.

I hope that you believe that for about 17 months I eat only in the 7th Days of each week.

No. I don't believe you.

I don't believe you. You have previously demonstrated that you cannot fathom simple addition right here on this very site.

2*2=4

That is multiplication not addition.

Even if true, you claim that you do not even live in that country.

I need not live in US to say the correct fact that today the purchasing power of the average American family at the same level as it was in 1958.

And you would remain wrong. As always.

Incoherent.

Life experiancy in USA http://demog.berkeley.edu/~andrew/1918/figure2.html


1958 Men 66.6 Women72.9
average 69.75

http://www.infoplease.com/world/statistics/life-expectancy-country.html
2015
79.68

America has healthcare issues. I might care if I lived there.

 

[Border Reiver]

I can not evaluate your speech professionally.

You should be able to parse from abaddon's sentence that he can program in a number of computer languages. He is doing so to let you know why he thinks your robot judge idea is untenable.

So I have to believe either you or my friend.
Let's say you're right and it is impossible to make the robot judge without reforming the existing laws under its capabilities.

It is not only a case of needing to change laws in order to create robot judges, it is a case where the technology is inadequate to allow robot judges to assess anything due to the overwhelming complexity of the task.

In this case it is necessary to reform the existing laws under the order of the real robot judge that we can create.

No, the application of laws and judicial decision making is not a process where computerized thinking is possible - there are simply too many variables in even the seemingly simplest of matters for a computer, which at its heart is limited to one of two answers, to determine.

In the beginning, of course the judge-robot will be just the assistant of judge-man.
But gradually it will take on more and more functions and the time will come, when the judge-robot will make may be not 100% of the judge-man’s work, but 90%.

You've been reading too much bad sci-fi to practically assess either robotics and computer programming.

Today, there is no real equality before the law.
Today, judges are overworked by 2-3 times, and therefore the quality of professional judgments is very poor.

Odd, I don't see legislation or other conditions that remove formal legal equality from different classes of persons in any western democracy. There are practical concerns with respect to access to the court systems and the advantages that more wealthy litigants or defendants have when compared to the poor, but those differences pale next to the problems that a computerized judiciary would cause.

Laws must be invented and constructed not only by groups of lawyers but also by groups of system analysts and robot programs makers.
Better if these two specialties will be in one head of laws designer.

They are - we call those people "legislators". They pass laws.

The executive branch implement the laws.

The judicial branch then rule on the laws and their implementation.

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

The hint is in your question. EU stands for European Union. Australia, Canada USA and New Zealand are not only geographically separated, politically separated, financially separated and psychologically separated, they simply have no interest in bogging themselves down in the quagmire that is the EU and who could blame them?

After those your words about the EU it became me much more clear why Great Britain plays as the Trojan Horse in EU.
I see 2 Great Unions.
The Union of all English Speaking Countries and the Union of all others developed and correctly developing countries.

Turkey has yet to meet the criteria for membership.

And what about Romania, Bulgaria and Greece?!
Those countries are less developed than Turkey.

So you say. According to you we must return to iron age religions. No thanks.

It will not be bad but very good if every secular and clerical man will know the texts of 4 books of 4 world religious in secular form.
It is the age of New Saturday and not the “iron age religions”.

Only someone outside the EU could think that.

Most people outside EU and English Speaking Countries think so.
It is about 6 billion.

No. No it really isn't. The correct description would be useless bureaucratic nightmare.

I agree that the implementation of Great Principles of EU was bad but the idea is so great that EU in future will become much stronger than US.
Look!
Ukraine people are ready to die to become the equal members of EU!
Because they like freedom.

What planet are you living on?

New Saturday.

Israel may kindly foxtrot oscar. We do not want them under any circumstance.

Never matter because God wants HIS Resurrected Israel to become the Capital of HIS New Saturday Union.

 

[MikeG]

.......God wants HIS Resurrected Israel to become the Capital of HIS New Saturday Union.

And you know this precisely how?

 

[Craig B]

I can’t understand you.
Today are you for establishing the Union of all English-speaking States or oppose?

Oppose. That would be tantamount to annexation by the USA. I don't care what languages are spoken in different states.

 

[Craig B]

Ukraine people are ready to die to become the equal members of EU!
Because they like freedom.



New Saturday.


Never matter because God wants HIS Resurrected Israel to become the Capital of HIS New Saturday Union.

You know God's political views?

Do Palestinians not like freedom, then?

 

[ComfySlippers]

...

Never matter because God wants HIS Resurrected Israel to become the Capital of HIS New Saturday Union.

Your imaginary friend is scared of little pigs.
I don't think he's qualified to make demands of me.
I'm not scared of little pigs, the word "Hebrew" or being ridiculed.

Your fantasy kingdom would be destroyed in less than one minute by one man with a catapult, a pig, a pencil and a sense of humour.

ETA: You waffle on about The USA and Great Britain. Countries you demonstrably know nothing about. Is the reason you don't waffle on about the country you actually live in because you can't find enough made-up crap on Google about it?

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

As I have stated before: I have no love for Zionism, but I have to acknowledge gratefully that not even the craziest Zionists contemplate creating a U.S.- Israel world empire which will then engulf the European Union. You are breaking new ground here.

However, maybe that's the sort of thing that would appeal to Donald Trump, if he ever becomes President.

Empire is attractive only for Empire Country and for citizens of this country.
“New Saturday” Union is attractive to all its full right members because they are really equal but not similar each other.
Every citizen of New Saturday Union will have high multiprofessional and multicultural education, 26 weeks of creative vacation each year, the right to live and to work in every country of this Great Union.

When Donald Trump will be a president of US I will sent him my Great Project of course as I have sent it to president Barak Obama.

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

How did that work out for France?

Oh yeah, I remember now. It was a nightmare, which cost thousands and thousands of jobs as more French industry became uncompetitive as a result of its higher labour costs.

Sounds like you want a club of all white-dominated countries, but only as long as they agree to your (silly) rules.

Open your eyes.
Today the socialists are in the state power in France.
They are for 1500 working hours a year and most French people too.
Netherlands and Germany have 1470 working hours a year.

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

You've not answered a couple of my recent posts. How about responding to these:

Post 3294

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

No, that wasn't what you said. You said you don't eat salt at all.


Rubbish. Most of those contain salt. For example, half a cup of raw carrot contains 20 mg of salt, and the same amount of beets contains 49 mg. All kinds of fish and meat contain salt. Even some fruits (eg persimmon) do.

Look them up for yourself:

http://www.alsosalt.com/socounfo.html

You really need to stop making statements without bothering to first do any fact checking whatsoever.

It is exactly what I am talking about.
All food products have salt N+ or K+.
That’s why the man need not to put salt into his food.
It is exactly what I do for last 15 year and after my Great Eating Lifestyle the main reason of my good health.

 

[Nationalcosmopolitan]

Are you seriously advocating bloody excruciating torture?

For real?

https://www.google.co.il/search?hl=....0....0...1ac.1.64.img..0.14.2474.XmhRZDPMB40