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Nay_Sayer said:
What Cosmo imagines is all that being condensed into 112 languages of which children may or may not have to learn every one of.

I wonder how those that don't make the cut will feel.

Also Robot judges.
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One more example to you to clear the situation .
5% of population of high developed countries suffer from depression.
Psychiatrists give them medication from depression.
Successful result from the first step only 30%.
To other 70% Psychiatrists give another medication.
Successful result from the second step only 10%.
Successful result from the second step only 1% - 2%.
Today there is the program that gives the combination of medications for depression from gigant bank of those meditations that don't know even the group of very good doctors.
Result - 80% success from the first step.
The same result will be if to use computer programs in the work of judges and in learning foreign languages.
And in the systems of social quality assurance that base on anonymity of open creative communication and random samples.
 
Craig B said:
Therefore it is not true to state that it appears in these verses:

Genesis 14:13; 39:14; 39:17; 40:15; 41:12; 42:3.
Exodus 1:15; 1:16; 1:19; 2:6; 2:7; 2:11; 2:13, 3:18; 5:3; 7:16; 9:1; 9:13; 10:3; 21:2.
Deuteronomy 15:12.
1 Samuel 4:6; 4:9; 13:3; 13:7; 13:19; 14:11; 14:21; 29:3.
Jeremiah 34:9; 34:14.
Jonah 1:9.

You're saying it's false?
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וַיָּבֹא, הַפָּלִיט, וַיַּגֵּד, לְאַבְרָם הָעִבְרִי
And came the saved and said to Abraham - [Ivry].
It means that Abraham idetified himself as the man from the nation [Ivry].
The father of this nation is Ever.
And even Joseph - the son of Abraham's grandson - Jakob identified himself in Egypt as the man from the nation [Ivry].

It was the time when still was not the nation of his brother Juda - Jews - יהודים with their Holy Language of Holy Book that clearly named in this Book יהודית [ihudit] and not עברית [ivrit].
Give me somebody who speaks our Holy Resurrected Language and I will explain it more clearly in skype.

Once more there is no the word עברית [Ivrit] in Tanakh.
 
Nationalcosmopolitan said:
Once more there is no the word עברית [Ivrit] in Tanakh.
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Therefore it is not true to state that it appears in these verses?

Genesis 14:13; 39:14; 39:17; 40:15; 41:12; 42:3.
Exodus 1:15; 1:16; 1:19; 2:6; 2:7; 2:11; 2:13, 3:18; 5:3; 7:16; 9:1; 9:13; 10:3; 21:2.
Deuteronomy 15:12.
1 Samuel 4:6; 4:9; 13:3; 13:7; 13:19; 14:11; 14:21; 29:3.
Jeremiah 34:9; 34:14.
Jonah 1:9.
 
Nationalcosmopolitan said:
One more example to you to clear the situation .
5% of population of high developed countries suffer from depression.
Psychiatrists give them medication from depression.
Successful result from the first step only 30%.
To other 70% Psychiatrists give another medication.
Successful result from the second step only 10%.
Successful result from the second step only 1% - 2%.
Today there is the program that gives the combination of medications for depression from gigant bank of those meditations that don't know even the group of very good doctors.
Result - 80% success from the first step.
The same result will be if to use computer programs in the work of judges and in learning foreign languages.
And in the systems of social quality assurance that base on anonymity of open creative communication and random samples.
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leaving apart the fact that you cite no sources for figures you appear to extracted from your butt, you can always judge a society by how it treats it's minorities. Your idea is to simply oppress and eliminate them by whatever means seem expedient. Well, someone tried that before on a grand scale which resulted in the establishment of the country in which you now live.
 
Nationalcosmopolitan said:
Once more there is no the word עברית [Ivrit] in Tanakh.
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Let me remind you of what you originally wrote.
Nationalcosmopolitan said:
There is no the word "Hebrew" in Tanah.
There is the word "Ihudit".
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Now, I have found the word "Hebrew" over thirty times in the English version of the Masoretic Text (MT) and I have found its equivalent in the original Hebrew version the same number of times.

You are saying that the word Is not there. I don't need to speak to you in Hebrew on Skype. I need you to look and say, it is there, or it is not there. Take one or more of the verses I have listed and say, that version is false. It is not there.
 
Border Reiver said:
People are NOT unchanging cogs in business processes and treating them as such is not going to yield good results.

Furthermore, unless you can prove by weight of evidence that an organization is engaging in corrupt practices, barring association with that group is unjust.
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Let us presume that you have every day 2 abilities: or to choose one from 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 very expensive and good battles of wine according your mind or to choose 1 from 10000 different wines of the same great quality according the random samples.
What variant you will choose?
I will choose variant number 2.
And I will prefer to choose to use most big values according the random samples from big sets of good quality goods and services.

Only when we will have the state power according the random sample it will be surely proved that most previous power persons were criminals.


Border Reiver said:
Vehemently disagree - to the point where if my nation state were to try and implement this I would lead the revolution - justice is not served where the parties cannot actually confront each other. True justice comes from an accused being able to confront their accuser, and to be offered the opportunity to refute the evidence against them, and to offer exculpatory evidence in addition. The person passing the sentence must be able to deal with the person they sentence. what you propose is not justice - it is a recipe for back-door dealings and grave injustice.
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It is impossible to make the true justice when the judge has 10 times more cases he can solve with good quality.
The number of bad quality designed laws and other documents grows as the number of cancer cells.
Only computer programs can work successfully with this volume of information and not a man.
The only real way to reach justice is judges - robots.
By the way.
It will be 10 times less air catastrophes if instead pilots will be the pilot - robots.
The same things in trains and cars.
Only because the total corruption we don't hear about those projects.


Border Reiver said:
Scrap your ideas in total and start over - your plan to remake human society based on 4 works of fiction, enforced use of a minor language, unworkable economic ideas and unjust justice system is critically flawed to the point where it would be better to start over rather than modify them.
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"to start over rather than modify them" proves your radical type of mind.
My type of mind is the social inventor and constructor.
My social inventions principally not pioneer.
They based on our life reality and all they are easily implementable.
 
Nationalcosmopolitan said:
It is impossible to make the true justice when the judge has 10 times more cases he can solve with good quality.

Wrong, Judges have experience and can deal with multiple cases with a fair deal of accuracy. You seem to be confusing this with major cases which are dealt with slowly.
The number of bad quality designed laws and other documents grows as the number of cancer cells.

Only computer programs can work successfully with this volume of information and not a man.
Ever hear of a virus?
The only real way to reach justice is judges - robots.
Lol no, Not when robots are easily corruptible as a somewhat related example I used to use a program that allows one to hack into unprotected computer/ security cameras, it is still available and it doesn't even require a download.
By the way.
It will be 10 times less air catastrophes if instead pilots will be the pilot - robots.
How do you figure? Can they like in the case of Captain Chesley Sullenberger react in a catastrophe and land on water or some other unlikely area? Will it be able to calm frantic passengers?
The same things in trains and cars.
Only because the total corruption we don't hear about those projects.
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My comments in hilite.

Cosmo the only upside to your dystopian future is the humor and the fact it will never come to pass.
 
Nay_Sayer said:
I......and.....what?
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Imagine that you were ill and were near death and now the crisis has been end and it is clear to you that in future you will have a life with strong health.
It is near my feelings in the end of the 7th Day.
It is about the great positive gradients of feeling that person of my lifestyle has once a week.
 
If you bang your head against a wall for an hour it will feel great when you stop. That is not a good reason to bang your head against a wall.

Of course someone who starves themselves for 6 days feels great when they finally eat. That is not a good reason to starve yourself.
 
Nay_Sayer said:
Chess is a purely mathmatical program based on position of pieces on the board. Whereas a trial can have multiple layers of evidence, witness testimony and the judges own experience to manage the court room proceedings.

95%...No, just no.
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I want to add to 4 blocks and 13 constitutional principles of my project 2 more principles.
1 You should not use the man work if it can be done by robot.
2 The subject of work - the worker should not be in contact with the object of work if it can be done in the form of distance management.
We can imagine how many works we can make in the form of distance management of even difficult surgery operations we can do in the form of distance management.
Recent aerokatastrofy can't be in the case of distant management.
It will not be 40 children in one classroom (children prison with violence and drugs 8 hours a day for 12 years) in the case of distant management and wide using of teaching programs.
 
Craig4 said:
You miss my point. Your work has no value. No one wants your project to happen. It would be economically destructive and cause massive wars. Your robot judge won't matter because there will no one to listen to it and it will never have authority.
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Today young people don't read books and there are no people to read even the greatest world books.
It means that the work of those great authors will be forgotten and have no value.
You are right that "my work has no value" because I do not do any work.
My texts are reflection of my lifestyle of the prison of real freedom that I like very much.
And because this they are the great value.
Tell me please the truth - do your own lifestyle valuable for you?
 
Stuart said:
I wouldn't subscribe to any life style that would require me to compromise my beliefs.
So how do you view pagans who have been around longer than Christians? - By your logic, you should become a pagan.
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The person of "New Saturday" will have of course his own beliefs of his own individuality but the common base of those beliefs will be a good knowledge of 4 books of 4 world religions and cultures.
Buddhists in some points look like pagans.
But there are many Buddhists that go in christian churches.
So Buddhism and Christianity compatible to them even in religion form.
I am absolutely sure that in secular form all 4 world cultures are absolutely compatible.
 
bruto said:
This is an odd and funny thread turn. I suppose a robot judge would probably be very efficient, and probably right most of the time until the legal parties become adept at fooling it, and as long as no human discretion is involved.

I remember when I was a kid, this would be some time in the 1950's, I read a Superman comic, a rare event in itself, and as it happens, one of the feature stories involved a robot judge. Needless to say the judge made a seemingly perfect decision that was entirely wrong and sent an innocent man to jail. Of course that was a comic book and a long time ago, but I think they got it right.

I mean, I don't want to get too personal here, but aside from the question of discretion and what might constitute permissible error for a mechanical process, I think that while a robot judge might do pretty well in traffic court, there are a few people here who would fare very badly indeed if such a thing were in charge of, say, a sanity hearing!
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You have to understand that the lawyer, the prosecutor and the judge will use the same program of judge-robot.
Their dispute will be the dispute of professional users of one program about information they download their.
Ideally 3 sides of judge - process have to get one result.
In this case the quality of professional decision will be surely great higher than today and not depend from how many money has client.
 
Craig B said:
My question has no "logic", and has nothing to do with native speaking Holy Resurrected Language citizens. It has nothing to do with passports.

You have stated that the word ivri is not found in the Tanakh. I say that it is found in these verses:

Genesis 14:13; 39:14; 39:17; 40:15; 41:12; 42:3.
Exodus 1:15; 1:16; 1:19; 2:6; 2:7; 2:11; 2:13, 3:18; 5:3; 7:16; 9:1; 9:13; 10:3; 21:2.
Deuteronomy 15:12.
1 Samuel 4:6; 4:9; 13:3; 13:7; 13:19; 14:11; 14:21; 29:3.
Jeremiah 34:9; 34:14.
Jonah 1:9.

Is that true or not?
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Please don't false my words.
I said that there is no the word [ivrit] in Tanakh.
 
Nationalcosmopolitan said:
Please don't false my words.
I said that there is no the word [ivrit] in Tanakh.
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What do you mean? I'm merely exceedingly surprised that Concordances assert the occurrence of the word over thirty times, and I have listed the chapters and verses, and quoted from the sources for two of these examples.

So, either I must believe the published word list of the Tanakh, or I have to believe you. Mmm. I'll tell you what. Look up one of the verses in my list, and write down what you say is the true wording, and I will give you the wording I find in the concordance, and see if they agree.

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For example, here's Genesis 41:12, from Bible Gateway.
Str Translit Hebrew English Morph
8033 [e] wə-šām וְשָׁ֨ם And there [was] Adv
854 [e] ’it-tā-nū אִתָּ֜נוּ with us Prep
5288 [e] na-‘ar נַ֣עַר a young man Noun
5680 [e] ‘iḇ-rî, עִבְרִ֗י a Hebrew Adj
5650 [e] ‘e-ḇeḏ עֶ֚בֶד servant Noun
8269 [e] lə-śar לְשַׂ֣ר of the captain Noun
2876 [e] haṭ-ṭab-bā-ḥîm, הַטַּבָּחִ֔ים of the guard Noun
 
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Craig4 said:
But as you've designed it, your project would lead to World War III. That is if anyone actually tried to implement your project. Thus far there seems no danger of anyone actually trying to implement your ideas.
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Explain please how for example weekly symmetrical lifestyle in French with 26 weeks of work and 26 weeks of creative vacation, with 1248 working hours a year instead 1500 working hours a year today can give us world war 3?
 
Craig B said:
LXX = ancient Greek translation. MT = traditional "Masoretic" Hebrew text. That is, standard Hebrew Bible.

According to my sources the MT has the word Hebrew in the places I stated. You say it has not.

I now ask you to look at some of these places and tell me you have looked and the word is not there, so the concordances are false. Or YOU ARE WRONG when you state that the word is not there. This is an easy excercise.
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Give "an easy exercises" to yourself.
I tell you once more.
There is no the word [ivrit]עבריתinTanakh.
 
Nay_Sayer said:
Thanks for the clarification. Still a terrible idea as a whole.

Also English is a real pickle of a language with sentences like;

The bare bear couldn't bear being alone so the hare with no hair who was an heir to a castle floating in the air let him live there where they're no troubles and other fun animals also live their.
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If not to implement this my project - for next 50 - 100 years the most languages will not be or will become marginal languages compare English - the Global lingua franca.
Margarin, Arab language, Spanish and Holy Resurrected Language are exclusions.
For today's pragmatic cosmopolitan people it looks OK the situation of one English language in the world.
I don't think so because monolingual persons have statistically much lower IQ than multilingual ones.
 
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