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Polaris said:
What's wrong with Keegan? I found his History of Warfare and Face of Battle to be exceptional.
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History of Warfare promotes the 'Beuatiful People' myth. Keegan makes it seem as if primitive tribes all fight without violence.

Face of Battle? Parts are OK, but his take on Waterloo might just as well be yanked straight out of the Capt. Mercer diary.

Nohting the man has written has impressed me much. I usually only read him when there is not much alternative. (such as with is book on the Iraq war)

I did a little online checking, and it seems you may be wrong about Keegan's claims. I don't have the books in front of me, but others seem to indicate that Keegan's comments are against the idea of the 'Conventry sacrifice' myth.
 
kookbreaker said:
History of Warfare promotes the 'Beuatiful People' myth. Keegan makes it seem as if primitive tribes all fight without violence.

Face of Battle? Parts are OK, but his take on Waterloo might just as well be yanked straight out of the Capt. Mercer diary.

Nohting the man has written has impressed me much. I usually only read him when there is not much alternative. (such as with is book on the Iraq war)

I did a little online checking, and it seems you may be wrong about Keegan's claims. I don't have the books in front of me, but others seem to indicate that Keegan's comments are against the idea of the 'Conventry sacrifice' myth.
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It's been a while since I read The Second World War, but that was the impression I got. I dont have it in front of me (checked it out from the library - well before my compulsive book-buying days).

I've never been a Napoleonic War buff - I can't think of any part of military history more boring to me. What impressed me was the analysis of what went wrong in the planning of the Somme. As for the 'beautiful people' thing...I got nothing of the sort out of the description of the Yanomamo, a people that only the most strident cultural relativist could paint in a favorable light.
 
dubfan, are you still posting at LC? There's something I was hoping to follow up on, but I went and got myself banned. In this post, Sun Zoo posted this:
What else do you want - a professionally liscenced practicing structural engineer, right?

I'll have one within days I believe, a week max.

I'm a headhunter. In the Consulting Engineering world in the USA (though I don't talk to people, usually, about anything 9/11 in the course of conducting business). It's my job it's what I do.

There MUST be brave ones out there now ready to look at this information, I'll start making more calls..

Call it the Loose Change Contingency Search Assignment.

We'll get one, from New York City. That's where I'll find him. A high rise pro struct eng, who upon making his own investigation and examination, fully believes in 9/11 truth as we are presenting it, to certify, that the official story is utterly absurd nonsense and a great Big Lie, of the farthest reaching proportions and significance..
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This was back on May 5. Could you, or anyone, please ask him how the search is going?
 
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=3596&st=0&#last

this is all the proof I need to believe there were 2 planes

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=323


No he said she said is going to change that, we're gonna have to have real investigation. SORRY
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Because, you know, the NIST report just isn't credible, but some left-over, cached piece of crap from a defunct "Global Free Press" website whose home page now links to a currency exchange service...we'll believe that.
 
Is it just me or does everybody get a message like this on LC forum when trying to post a reply?

"Your message has to be reviewed by the administrator before it can be seen on the board."

or something like that.
 
those LC forums are bubbling with knowledge and argument.

"Also, keep in mind that Im not accusing ALL Jews, however, Good Jews have a moral responsibility to fight evil Jews or Zionists who harm others in an evil way just as I have a moral responsibility as a Christian to fight those who use the name of Christ to harm others, as Bush and company have been doing."

"xtratabasco, this is an excellent article. I am a Christian. I believe, based on the Bible, that Israel has the right to the land they occupy. It is not the Palestinian's land. God gave it to the Jews."

if you find the thread that was posted in, the prize is having to have read one of the worst threads ever.

why can't i stop reading all that crap?
 
why can't i stop reading all that crap?
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I been having the same kind of problem for like a year now with this cradle of scientific knowledge:

control-alt-delete.ca/v-web/bulletin/bb/index.php

(just add http not www)
It's the "Conspiracy Central" forum index

Though they have a good tracker where they sometimes post some interesting "mainstream" documentaries.


I guess I've been black listed in LC-forum for links to Gravys document. :cool:
 
I been having the same kind of problem for like a year now with this cradle of scientific knowledge:

control-alt-delete.ca/v-web/bulletin/bb/index.php

(just add http not www)
It's the "Conspiracy Central" forum index

Though they have a good tracker where they sometimes post some interesting "mainstream" documentaries.
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thanks for the link! i'll check it out... though i KNOW i shouldn't. i'll probably just end up wasting even more time there. ug...
 
I asked TheQuest that does he get a cut from Loose Change DVD sales and now I'm banned. :)


EDIT: I guess the answer was yes.
 
Polaris said:
Not to mention, the Reichstag fire happened in 1933. It was a (non-lethal) faked attack by communist terrorists so that Hitler could circumvent the democratic institutions of the Weimar. The invasion of Poland didn't occur until September of 1939, 6 years later. And then, another fake attack (one where Polish destruction of bridges was faked to justify the invasion by an armored Nazi force that just happened to be amassed at the border) was committed to justify annexation of Poland (well, the half that Uncle Joe didn't get). The analogy doesn't quite fit. The Reichstag fire wasn't an excuse by Hitler to justify war. It was to justify giving himself totalitarian powers. Bush did no such thing after 9/11, no matter how you spin the Patriot Act.
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Sigh, you just have to keep correcting them till they get it right.
The Reichstag fire was set by a nutty Dutch communist named Martinus van der Lubbe, according to the best available evidence. There is no evidence of involvement by the Nazis, merely convenient innuendo. The Nazis did make full use of the event to eliminate the communist and socialist parties. (Kershaw, who outranks Keegan for me, Hitler: Hubris 1889-1936, p 456-459).
 
WildCat said:
Wow, just when you thought the CT couldn't get any more bizarre, along comes this thread.

:jaw-dropp
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hey, geggy, you have to realize that it's not hard to run into CTs who are batsh**t crazy. Don't blame us. These people are taken seriously bay a large percentage of teh CT crowd. The "no-plene" idea is still worthy of consideration, according the the LC mods, the same mods that say "every theory must pass muster."
Dear Mr. Hough
Re: GE United 93 blown up by GE Pulse Detonation Engine?

In my previous e-mails to you, I suggested that Lloyd's of London Underwriters
initiate a RICO* civil suit against associates of the CAI Private Equity Group
('CAI') in respect of damages associated with alleged acts of racketeering,
murder, extortion, arson and insurance fraud on and after September 11, 2001.
http://www.caifunds.com/specialinvestors.html

RICO* - Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organization

My most recent research suggests that CAI ordered directors of GECAS (General
Electric Capital Aviation Services), Boeing and Cascade Aerospace to lease
modified passenger jets with flight numbers 11, 175, 77 and 93 for use in the
'Global Guardian' war games of 9/11 and simulate a Boeing-operated
Iridium-satellite remote-controlled 'cluster bomb'attack on selected targets in
New York and Washington, D.C.
http://www.cascadeaerospace.com/news/2005/...78?pageNumber=3
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geggy said:
Parelsis...no I have not dismissed the CD theory. I will explain using pictures with graphics, possibly on mon. And the coincidences I was speaking of applies to different situations leading up, during and the aftermath of sept 11. Like the coincidences in foreknowledge/security standdown, the coincidences of hijackers' whereabouts, the coincidences of the wtc collapsing, etc all mushed into one big huge "coincidences" or "conspiracy", whichever applies to you.

Gravy...I'm not clear on why I owe you an apology.

Do you realize the 19 hijackers trained right here in america? Even several of them had resided in Maryland during training. Two of the hijackers lived with couple of FBI agents in california. Several of them got their training in aviation school in florida, owned by a known criminal with no pilot experience. Few of the hijackers were involved with various terrorist activities prior to sept 11, so how were they allowed into america with VISA that should have been denied?

Do you think the NSA was spying prior to sept 11? Dick cheney has fought for legislation to spy on "terrorists" without warrent since 1975. Do you remember how bill clinton got caught having an affair with monica lewinsky? So it has been proven countless times the NSA had been spying prior to sept 11...why were there no action taken toward the hijackers?
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So now there were real hijackers?

Good, we're making progress.
 
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