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conspiracybeliever said:
Chestbeating: Mere Buzzword.

Roxdog would school anyone here on ANY live show. Period. :)
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The veracity of that claim aside; even if Roxdog would "school anyone here on ANY live show" that factors neither to the (in)validity of his claims nor the (in)validity of his opponents counter-claims. Thus showing more reason that a live, non-neutral environment, debate would not be profitable.
 
conspiracybeliever said:
I just think it's funny. You even have people here saying it's a good idea yet no one will accept the challenge.
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I fully admit it--I don't have the balls. I even said so to Roxdog (although I called him a f:)k-wad in the same sentence).

Truth is, I'm not a good speaker, and live audiences and microphones make me very nervous.

Posting to a forum, though, is not "hiding" any more than a radio show is. It doesn't mean I lack confidence in my position. The fact is, I'm willing to bet these forums get a lot more traffic than his show, and the posts made often contain references that can quickly be checked at the click of a button, making them much more educational than a radio show.

His radio show sounds like a pissing contest where the winner is determined by who gets in the best digs and who comes across as more confident, rather than by whose information and perspective is most convincing.
 
conspiracybeliever said:
.Who cares about his audience? If you guys have the facts and research that should matter very little.
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Why bother debating anything if the audience doesn't matter ?

conspiracybeliever said:
Actually, if you listen to his shows he as done much more than that. I can't believe no one here will go on his show. He would go on yours...:p
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Easy for him to say, since there is no show for him to go to.
 
And by the by, Roxdog never gave any information about the radio show. He provided a link, but I have no way of knowing who his sponsors are, where the show is broadcast, how long I'd be on the show, if I'd have to travel to be on the show, how the show is broadcast... etc. etc. etc. etc.

He's throwing it out there as a vague threat. If he were serious and professional, he would have provided this information.

ETA And "Come on my radio show so I can kick your ass!" isn't much of an invitation...
 
delphi_ote said:
And by the by, Roxdog never gave any information about the radio show. He provided a link, but I have no way of knowing who his sponsors are, where the show is broadcast, how long I'd be on the show, if I'd have to travel to be on the show, how the show is broadcast... etc. etc. etc. etc.

He's throwing it out there as a vague threat. If he were serious and professional, he would have provided this information.

ETA And "Come on my radio show so I can kick your ass!" isn't much of an invitation...
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Don't have sponsers. All you need is a phone. If you challenged me I wouldn't think twice. :)
 
conspiracybeliever said:
Don't have sponsers. All you need is a phone. If you challenged me I wouldn't think twice. :)
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Once again, what is the purpose of taking this debate to a radio show?

And what about my other questions about the show? Does his show even have a website? That might be a good place to start.
 
delphi_ote said:
Once again, what is the purpose of taking this debate to a radio show?

And what about my other questions about the show? Does his show even have a website? That might be a good place to start.
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Will there be an agreement prior to the show as to what topics will be covered or what topics will be off-limits? Will there be guarantees of equal time to rebutt claims? etc
 
Arkan_Wolfshade said:
Will there be an agreement prior to the show as to what topics will be covered or what topics will be off-limits? Will there be guarantees of equal time to rebutt claims? etc
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Or will Roxdog just yell profanity and name call like he does on your forums?

Roxdog said:
Kiss my [edited to comply with rule 8 on this forum], delphi_ote.
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delphi_ote said:
I find it "self-evident" that you conspiracybeliever] are being deliberately obstinant and opaque. Answer the question. What is the purpose of taking this debate to a radio show?
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I'll take a shot at answering:

The purpose of the invitation to debate on a radio show is to attempt to use a lure so transparent (yet ostensibly genuine) as to ensure the invitation is declined, so as to further the larger goal of bleating that the so-called skeptics at the JREF won't debate because they are "afraid" to, therefore hoping to insinuate theirs is a clear case of legitimacy.

How'd I do, Loose Changers?
 
Regnad Kcin said:
I've visited Montreal (for the Grand Prix) and found it to be a thoroughly charming city, with no shortage of warm and engaging citizens. So it's a bit distressing to hear you say your countrymen are overwhelmingly anti-American. C'est la vie, I suppose.
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what rock have you been hiding under ? :)

Having to work with musicians everyday, you get a quick taste for what the artsy fartsy's of other lands feel. Anti american/Anti jew is RABID. Any conspiracy theory is fine, as long as it attacks america or "the joooooos"

then again, just like here in the USA, the artsy fartsy's may not be representative of the population at large
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conspriacybeliever, someone asked earlier whether you had ever heard of Duane Gish, and I was thinking along the same lines. He's a nutty creationist/anti-evolutionist who can talk a blue streak about his topic. Actually, I have not heard or seen Duane in action, but I have heard his likeness Kent Hovind. Kent can spew out complete BS so fast, that it would take five hours to rebut what he says in each five minutes.

Not because it's true - with a little research he's obviously bat-scat crazy, but because he speaks confidently and quickly, he's very frustrating to debate. And he's been doing this so long, that if you attempt to pursue one line of inquiry in enough detail to show how he's nuts, he can quickly change to another front about which his opponent does not have immediate expertise.

There's just nothing good that comes out of debating someone like that. You need time to gather facts, and a written format so that it can stay on a topic. We've never heard your radio show (link?), but I sure suspect that you are equivalent to Duane or Kent.
 
This whole «Loose Change» thing reminds me of someone finding a small mole on their body, then looking up medical books or browsing the internet for some diagnosis and coming up with «I got cancer!».

In all cases, go see a doctor.
 
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