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conspiracybeliever said:
He has stated he would go on your show if you had one. Or anyone else's for that matter. You are merely assuming he'd be hostile to you on his show only to give a reason not to go on it, IMO.
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Forgive me for not being 100% up on the RoxDog posturing. I really have not been paying attention to the LC forum, despite what you may think. Here is what he has said that I am aware of:

"I PUBLICLY CHALLENGE ANYONE OF THESE PEOPLE TO COME ON MY SHOW OR SUBMIT THEIR OWN SHOW TO REVERE RADIO NETWORK DETAILING HOW THEY ARE CORRECT AND WE ARE INCORRECT. "

Its pretty much seems to be all on his network. If he's said otherwise I am unaware of it (not that it didn't happen, I am merely unaware of it). Mostly, however, I am seeing a distinct lack of effort on his part to stress a neutral playing field.

And yes, hostile hosting is a very good reason to avoid going on a show. Even Art Bell knows when and how to provide a level playing field. Roxdog has failed to demonstrate that he has such an ability.
 
conspiracybeliever said:
It's merely a proposal. It appears he is willing to go on anyone's show to debate the actual issues. It seems that if someone went on his show and he made things unfair or acted like a jerk it would only reflect badly on him so, what's the big deal?
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You really think so? Several members of LC acted like complete jerks to JREF members who went over to that forum and all I could see was cheerleading from the LC rank and file. I see little reason any shennanigans perpetuated by Roxdog would 'reflect badly on him' to his core audience.
 
So, in other words, no one has the courage to meet his challenge? Interesting seeing how he has laid all his cards on the table...
 
I see little reason any shennanigans perpetuated by Roxdog would 'reflect badly on him' to his core audience
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Who cares about his audience? If you guys have the facts and research that should matter very little.
 
conspiracybeliever said:
So, in other words, no one has the courage to meet his challenge? Interesting seeing how he has laid all his cards on the table...
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He laid all his cards on the table while hidden in the basement of his house. Such posturing may impress you, it does not impress me.
 
Actually, if you listen to his shows he as done much more than that. I can't believe no one here will go on his show. He would go on yours...:p
 
conspiracybeliever said:
Actually, if you listen to his shows he as done much more than that. I can't believe no one here will go on his show. He would go on yours...:p
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Do you have a point or are you just here to goad people with posturing and thinly veiled ad hom attacks? People have voiced their concerns with the idea of going on his podcast; and given the reception dissenters have received on his forums I think their concerns are valid. He is more than welcome to come here and, provided he abides by the enumerated forum rules, voice his ideas without fear of reprisal by the mods.
 
Pardalis said:
...I’m from the province of Québec and the anti-american sentiment here is overwelming. Needless to say the Loose Change «film» is very popular...
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I've visited Montreal (for the Grand Prix) and found it to be a thoroughly charming city, with no shortage of warm and engaging citizens. So it's a bit distressing to hear you say your countrymen are overwhelmingly anti-American. C'est la vie, I suppose.

In any event, welcome to the forum.
 
Regnad Kcin said:
I've visited Montreal (for the Grand Prix) and found it to be a thoroughly charming city, with no shortage of warm and engaging citizens. So it's a bit distressing to hear you say your countrymen are overwhelmingly anti-American. C'est la vie, I suppose.

In any event, welcome to the forum.
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Not entirely unlike hearing this morning (on NPR) that Pres. Hugo Chávez of Venezuela has been promoting an very militaristic, anti-American agenda as of late.

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Do you have a point or are you just here to goad people with posturing and thinly veiled ad hom attacks? People have voiced their concerns with the idea of going on his podcast; and given the reception dissenters have received on his forums I think their concerns are valid. He is more than welcome to come here and, provided he abides by the enumerated forum rules, voice his ideas without fear of reprisal by the mods.
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I just think it's funny. You even have people here saying it's a good idea yet no one will accept the challenge.
 
RandFan said:
I'm sorry Paradalis, I didn't realize you were from Canada. We don't ban people so you are free to stay but understand we are by necessity forced to take a dim view of your opinions.
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Because he or she is from Canada? Like, say...

...James Randi?
 
delphi_ote said:
You never addressed what the point of doing a radio show is.
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I have to agree. Your group has provided no credible evidence of any kind to support any of the claims you have made. None. Anyone who dissents from public opinion on your forms is dismissed without cause. I haven't seen a single poster from your forums, other than the ones you choose to ban, that has any interest in the truth. It seems your forum's main concern is sensationalistic speculation which allows you to remain in your fairy tale world. So, what difference would it make to simply ignore credible information on an audio format rather than a written format? Are you better at comprehending information audibly rather than visually?
 
conspiracybeliever said:
So, in other words, no one has the courage to meet his challenge? Interesting seeing how he has laid all his cards on the table...
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Here's the deal. Radio/TV is great medium for emotional presentation of information. It's not such a good place for logical, reasoned debate. On "the air", people can say whatever they want and there is no way to check any facts presented. This leads to claims and counter claims and ultimately leaves the listeners with nothing on which to understand what to believe. Further, one debater can make multiple and often convoluted claims which can overwhelm the other debater who may not understand the claims and/or not be able to respond to all of them. This format favors those who can talk the fastest, the loudest and with the most persuasive tone. Other then pure entertainment, I see no value in such a "debate".

Using a forum like this allows discrete claims with the opportunity to provide sources. Reponses can then address specific claims including comments on the source for the claim and provide specific rebuttals again with sources. Of course, simply because it's possible, doesn't mean it's done. But at least the potential exists, which doesn't on a TV/Radio program.

Those in the LC forums have had the opportunity to lay their cards on the table and as has been shown, have an empty hand. They can offer no credible sources to refute the official data and even less to support their opposing theories.
 
conspiracybeliever said:
I just think it's funny. You even have people here saying it's a good idea yet no one will accept the challenge.
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The one person who said it was a good idea said he should be looking for a neutral ground to have the show on. Right now, it does not seem that Roxdog is interested in doing that beyond lip service. Given his behavior ont he forums, there is little to be gained beyond abuse.

This is pretty much empty posturing by you and Roxdog. Just because someone makes a challenge does not mean it is worthwhile to accept it. After all, the 'Dr Dino challenge' is held out (allegedly) to all skeptics, but none will be accepting it. With good reason.

You fail to understand the difference between chestbeating and legitimate challenges.
 
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