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geggy said:
While the top part was falling, it was already breaking into pieces, therefore the weight wasn't heavy enough for the top portion to act as a hammer. Each and every floors were pulverizing into dust and small bits, the only logical explanation for the was because there was a great deal of energtic supersonic waves in which high explosives have the ability to produce.
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Good afternoon geggy.
If a herring and a half costs a penny and a half, how much does a pound of butter weigh?

JPK
 
Huntsman said:
You may call me "Master".
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I'M the master globalist around here! I'll have none of this. Take that back or I'll drive you into your parents basement like I have all the Loosers!

And I'll deprive you of your socks... 43? 1? You know what to do.
 
delphi_ote said:
I'M the master globalist around here! I'll have none of this. Take that back or I'll drive you into your parents basement like I have all the Loosers!

And I'll deprive you of your socks... 43? 1? You know what to do.
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i thought that Manny was the master conspirator, but you where No.1 ?
 
brodski said:
i thought that Manny was the master conspirator, but you where No.1 ?
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I'm the master globalist. The difference should be obvious. The number 1 Globalist Minion is Belz. He's a master of stealth grocery store shelf reorganizing, which is why he's on the team.
 
delphi:

You know I'm just implementing section 43, paragraph IV, substatement A of the fourth edition of the second printing of the New Revised Globalist Strategy for Dissention and Confusion, Part X. It's the one written on a grain of rice carried by a sparrow in northern Iowa. After all, we don't want the CTers to knwo who the real master globalist is, do we?
 
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delphi:

You know I'm just implementing section 43, paragraph IV, substatement A of the fourth edition of the second printing of the New Revised Globalist Strategy for Dissention and Confusion, Part X. It's the one written on a grain of rice carried by a sparrow in northern Iowa. After all, we don't want the CTers to knwo who the real master globalist is, do we?
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I hope that you'll be filing for forms Aii-c through Avii-n. We have to add this extra paper work for you, you where acting a little too efficiently for our liking.
 
brodski:

I'll be happy to fill out the forms. You'll need to send them to my secretary. Just fill out form 10a-Request for Delivery, 37-8R Explanation of Delivery Methods, and 899B Request for Delivery Schedule. My secretary will then give you her signed copy of form 56AZ Acknowledgment of Delivery request, after calling a meeting of our local globalist chapter heads to schedule a meeting of regional chapter heads to discuss the validity of the proposed delivery.

After that, it's just a matter of filling out the paperwork, and you'll be able to send me those forms.
 
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brodski:

I'll be happy to fill out the forms. You'll need to send them to my secretary. Just fill out form 10a-Request for Delivery, 37-8R Explanation of Delivery Methods, and 899B Request for Delivery Schedule. My secretary will then give you her signed copy of form 56AZ Acknowledgment of Delivery request, after calling a meeting of our local globalist chapter heads to schedule a meeting of regional chapter heads to discuss the validity of the proposed delivery.

After that, it's just a matter of filling out the paperwork, and you'll be able to send me those forms.
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I'd be happy to fill out the required forms, however you need to request them in the proper manner, start with form Aix-ab notification of intent to request security clearence for receipt of application forms required for authorization to view procedure for applying for official paperwork.
We can go from there. :p
 
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*sigh*

CONVENTIONAL EXPLOSIVES WILL NOT GENERATE TEMPERATURES OF 5000 DEGREES, NOT FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN A VERY MINIMAL AMOUNT OF TIME. EXPLOSIVES WOULD BE HIGHLY UNLIKELY TO PRODUCE ANY SORT OF MELTED METAL. EXPLOSIVES WORK WITH BLAST FORCE AND CONCUSSION, NOT HEAT. THE EXPLOSIVES THEORY WOULD HAVE A HARDER TIME EXPLAINING THE MELTED METAL THAN FIRE, AND WOULD STILL HAVE TO RELY ON POST-COLLAPSE FIRE FOR AN EXPLANATION.

LEARN something before you open your mouth and spew your ignorance, you dim wit. Don't come on an Internet board and give your uninformed and ignorant conclusion on a subject you obviously know nothing about to those who do have experience in the field, some of whom can be regarded as experts.

If you had bothered to do any research on explosives outside of the latest Hollywood action flick, you'd realize how little you know.
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Haha. It depends on what type of explosives we're talking about here. Since the towers had massive steel columns, an explosive that contained higher and more powerful powdered compounds were neccessary to cut through the steel. Thermite, when ignited, can reach up to 5000 degrees F, or maybe less, just hot enough to blast through multiple steel colums, which it's melting point is 2500-2750 degrees F. I recall these types of explosives are used to blast metallic weaponary machines such as tanks, planes, etc.
 
geggy said:
Haha. It depends on what type of explosives we're talking about here. Since the towers had massive steel columns, an explosive that contained higher and more powerful powdered compounds were neccessary to cut through the steel. Thermite, when ignited, can reach up to 5000 degrees F, or maybe less, just hot enough to blast through multiple steel colums, which it's melting point is 2500-2750 degrees F. I recall these types of explosives are used to blast metallic weaponary machines such as tanks, planes, etc.
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Round and around we go. I'll save you some time, Huntsman.
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THERMITE CHARGES WOULD NOT PRODUCE AUDIBLE EXPLOSIONS, NO MATTER HOW BIG THEY WERE.

Thermite is not an explosive.

So the sound of explosions you claim to hear is directly contradictory to the thermite idea.
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geggy said:
Ok now let me start from the top. As the top portion of the building gave away, there were far too great volume of dust already spewing forth out of the impact hole of the building. While the top part was falling, it was already breaking into pieces, therefore the weight wasn't heavy enough for the top portion to act as a hammer. Each and every floors were pulverizing into dust and small bits, the only logical explanation for the was because there was a great deal of energtic supersonic waves in which high explosives have the ability to produce.
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How would that account for anything ? Perhaps you know, but explosives used in demolition make a lot of noise. Do you suggest that someone cast a "silence" spell of some sort ?

The reason you see puff of smokes ejecting at accelerating speed,
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Accelerating puffs of smoke. Yeah. Right. Sure.

the reason there were witnesses who heard something that was going "pop pop pop", was because they were most likely explosive charges,
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Explosive charges don't go "pop", firecrackers do.

which has the ability to reach the temperature as high as 5000 degree F, exploding,
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Maybe someone can correct me, but I thought explosives used concussion to deal damage, not heat.

The buildings came down in a free fall manner in only 10-13 seconds, with every 10 floors falling every second. If the pancaking of the floors was true, then each floor that pancaked on the top of the floor below would've slowed down during the process of the collapsing.
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Perhaps you're unaware of the sheer mass that was coming down.

The twoers were built to withstand high winds, earthquakes because it was "ridiculously over engineered."
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Your words, of course.
 
geggy said:
Ok now let me start from the top. As the top portion of the building gave away, there were far too great volume of dust already spewing forth out of the impact hole of the building.
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Says who? Can you site any other circumstance where an airplane was slammed into a building and the dust that poured forth was measured? Who's to say how much is too much? Certainly not you, I'm wiling to bet.

While the top part was falling, it was already breaking into pieces, therefore the weight wasn't heavy enough for the top portion to act as a hammer.
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This has been handled. Now will you admit it's a mistaken conjecture, or will you ignore the rebuttal and come up with something else?

Each and every floors were pulverizing into dust and small bits, the only logical explanation for the was because there was a great deal of energtic supersonic waves in which high explosives have the ability to produce.
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Careful with your hyperbole. The <b>only</b> logical explanation? Don't you suppose that 20 stories of building coming down could also create quite an impression wave of force?

The reason you see puff of smokes ejecting at accelerating speed, the reason there were witnesses who heard something that was going "pop pop pop", was because they were most likely explosive charges, which has the ability to reach the temperature as high as 5000 degree F, exploding, breaking the central steel core into pieces to "weaken the steel columns structure of the building".
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As far as the puffs of smoke are concerned, fill a ziplock bag with flour, poke a small hole near the bottom, and drop it on the floor. Use your observational skills to determine if explosives were necessary to propel the flour out the hole.

I can not verify this, but perhaps a firefighter out there can. Don't windows explode outward in a fire, often with a loud popping noise? Couldn't this account for the multiple "explosions" heard? Considering the number of windows in the WTC, isn't this very likely, more so than actual explosions?

And I don't recall anyone at any time claiming that a) the temperature reached 5000C or that b) explosives can cause those temperatures.

The buildings came down in a free fall manner in only 10-13 seconds, with every 10 floors falling every second.
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"In a free-fall manner"? You mean, they fell, like, downward?


If the pancaking of the floors was true, then each floor that pancaked on the top of the floor below would've slowed down during the process of the collapsing.
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I thought it had been shown, earlier in this thread, that in true free-fall the top floor would have hit the ground in a little over 9 seconds. So unless you disagree with Sir Isaac Newton, the pancaking did indeed slow the collapse.

After the complete collapse, the billowing of the dust was too great and moving at high speed, covering most part of manhattan. The explanation of this has to be because of the high percentage of the concrete, abestos, office supplies, etc, etc in the building were transformed into nothing but dust.
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How does this advance a conspiracy theory?

The north tower collapsed for the same reason as I explained above. The twoers were built to withstand high winds, earthquakes because it was "ridiculously over engineered."
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This is called "adequately engineered". "Ridiculously engineered" would be if the buildings were able to withstand a direct hit from a nuclear bomb.
 
No but an explosive device to release thermite can make popping sounds not a boooming sounds.
 
geggy said:
Haha. It depends on what type of explosives we're talking about here. Since the towers had massive steel columns, an explosive that contained higher and more powerful powdered compounds were neccessary to cut through the steel. Thermite, when ignited, can reach up to 5000 degrees F, or maybe less, just hot enough to blast through multiple steel colums, which it's melting point is 2500-2750 degrees F. I recall these types of explosives are used to blast metallic weaponary machines such as tanks, planes, etc.
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THERMITE IS NOT AN EXPLOSIVE, YOU ABSOLUTE IDIOT!!!!! THAT TAKES ABOUT FIVE MINUTES TO VERIFY, YOU BUFOOON!!!!

How many times do you have to be told before you wake up and smell yourself? It's worse than talking to my four-year old, he usually remembers the second time I tell him something.

Sheesh.
 
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