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heres a fun game. its called, lets do research how the loosers do it. now all you have to do, is go to their forum, find a quote and use it out of context to prove your point. it's that simple. i'll start:

Deathlok said: millions of people will watch this film thinking that, this was what really happened and will feel sadness and feel for the familys involved! which is wrong, because none of the events actually happened!!
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i recentlly watched the film United 93, which i now feel is another attempt to coverup what happened that day! millions of people will watch this film thinking that, this was what really happened and will feel sadness and feel for the familys involved! which is wrong, because none of the events actually happened!!
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Research is fun!!!
 
I've been avoiding that silly forum, but I've just had a nosey and found somebody saying that the 'hardcore sheep' just won't believe without evidence. Apparently even if these sheep don't like Bush, they still won't believe it was a conspiracy. Oh ffs. I'll be a sheep then. :sheep:
 
sat556 said:
I've been avoiding that silly forum, but I've just had a nosey and found somebody saying that the 'hardcore sheep' just won't believe without evidence. Apparently even if these sheep don't like Bush, they still won't believe it was a conspiracy. Oh ffs. I'll be a sheep then. :sheep:
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"Hardcore sheep?" They HAVE been watching too many videos! :drool:
 
Is it just me, or are not only the smilies at the Looser site annoying, but the juvenile, clubish use of them enough to make it difficult to read anything there without laughing? The saluting smiley is about the silliest and overused thing I've ever seen.

On a more important note, as a lurker I must thank you all for being able to be so persistent in the debate here, a debate in which I simply can't keep up. The scientific, factual and visual links, which I email to myself from lunch break each day to review later on at home, are a goldmine of information. I've learned a lot and saved many of them for posterity to help me present evidence to anyone I know who might be listening to these guys.
 
Gravy said:
Of course the original Osama video didn't have subtitles. But when did I say I had a video with OR without subtitles, you blithering idiot? Can you, an "imaging specialist," imagine a video that has subtitles in some parts and not others? And why haven't you watched the video yet? What are you afraid of? It's only Osama the Harmless.

If you think I'm b.s.ing you, do your homework and prove it. I do my homework, and i have proved you to be wrong every single day. Isn't it time you got one on me? Won't it feel good? Give it the old college try, geggy.

Here's a challenge: you go over each of my posts in this thread and pick out the errors. I'll do the same with yours. We tally things up, and pay $10 for each error we've made. The money goes to a worthy 9/11-related cause. Are you with me?

Every day you say at least one thing that's blazingly stupid, it's pointed out to you that it's stupid, and why it's stupid, and yet the next day you come back and do it again. And again. And again. And again. Every single day.

It's not my nature to call people names in public, but geggy, you have made quite a public spectacle of your ignorance and unwillingness to learn from your mistakes.

How do you feel about your approach to all this? Is it working out? Are you comfortable with how it's going? Seeing good progress, are you?
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I tried to find a link to view the video, but looking online for it is like poking a stick in a hornet's nest. It's page after page of conspiracy theory yakk about how it's an actor, or that bin Laden has alwasy been a CIA stooge, or it was a deliberate mistranslation, etc. etc. None actually have the video - all they have are screenshots. Is there a place to actually watch it?
 
geggy said:
If I didn't know how to think crticially then I would've swallowed the bs that were laid out in the sept 11 commission report while reading it, which I doubt any of you actually read.
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I read it. Which exact parts are BS?
 
aggle-rithm said:
After reading this thread...wow.

They're actually claiming that an airliner CAN'T HIT THE GROUND if it's going faster than 400 mph!

This, coupled with the revelation that skyscrapers are immune to fire, is quite a relief to me. The world is much safer than I thought! Well, it would be except for all the murderous globalists, of course.
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Well, I do recall a PBS special about airplane crash detectives who determined a jet that plunged towards the ground tore apart at about 10,000 feet because they just can't go that fast in the thicker deeper atmosphere. I don't recall what that speed was, though, and presumably it varies, the slower, the lower in the atmosphere.
 
The loosers have been screaming all this time about how the gov't is witholding evidence, and how they want to see the evidence they're witholding. Now that the Moussaoui trial is over, the exhibits (warning graphic pics of bodies) have been released, including pics of bodies and personal effects found in the wreckage at the Pentagon and Pennsylvania. Robo started a thread about it hours ago... it has yet to get a single response. So much for "research".
 
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Looks like the pilot episode of the short-lived X-Files spinoff The Lone Gunmen pretty much sums up the loosers beliefs - pre-9/11! They just can't tell the fiction from the reality.

Click the link to youtube - this is the world the CTers live in! :D
 
WildCat said:
The loosers have been screaming all this time about how the gov't is witholding evidence, and how they want to see the evidence they're witholding. Now that the Moussaoui trial is over, the exhibits (warning graphic pics of bodies) have been released, including pics of bodies and personal effects found in the wreckage at the Pentagon and Pennsylvania. Robo started a thread about it hours ago... it has yet to get a single response. So much for "research".
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Well, they need to wait until Dylan or other CT websites tell them what to think about all that stuff.
 
Beerina said:
Well, I do recall a PBS special about airplane crash detectives who determined a jet that plunged towards the ground tore apart at about 10,000 feet because they just can't go that fast in the thicker deeper atmosphere. I don't recall what that speed was, though, and presumably it varies, the slower, the lower in the atmosphere.
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Well, we all saw the other two planes hit the WTC, and the difference in the thickness of the atmosphere on the 80th floor or so and the ground is pretty negligible.

I think what the CT's "expert" was saying was that vortexes and wind shear and whatnot would push the plane back up in the air as it approached the ground. (Sort of like Douglas Adam's secret to flying: "Throw yourself at the ground and miss.")

This, I think they were arguing, would have made it extremely difficult to hit an exact spot. I'm pretty sure these difficulties would have been familiar to the hijackers, though, having worked in simulators. Even crude ones like Microsoft's Flight Simulator did a fairly good job of re-creating the laws of physics.
 
I can't help but laugh (keeps me from crying) at the Loser's (MY spelling not a typo!) position on this. They think that the secret government is full of yes-men conspirators, keeping them down, and now THEY have become a collection of yes-men.

Then there's this:

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=750

Boogie booogie!

They can't find the victims on the Social Security Death Index - why? Because (for the most part, not exclusively) SSDI tracks people who have died, while collecting Social Security, listing their place of death as where their LAST CHECK was delivered. If you are struck down in your prime, you aren't getting ss benefits, and you are not on the list - how would you get there? Who would tell them? Big Brother? If granny dies in Vegas after hitting 3 cherries on the slots, it will list NJ as the place of her death because that's were her last check went.

And that is EXPLAINED on the ssdi website. But ya gotta read it!
 
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A small concession on the Chertoff issue at:
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=682

ok, looks like the relation between the 2 Chertoff individuals isn't a *fact* but a very likely possibility.
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A small concession, but a start. However, we take a few steps back.

regardless, there's countless evidence besides this small addition that points to governmental cover up like a whole bunch of video tape of what happened at the pentagon being withheld, pictures and video tape that's being withheld of what happened at WTC 7 building and additional footage of the two towers, the fact that bombs where planted in the buildings under the watch of Securicom which was run by the presidents brother, that vice president dick cheney allowed the planes to crash into the buildings by not giving orders for the planes to be intercepted and taken down, that audio tapes of firefighters on the scene where confiscated (although some of it has been leaked and showed that the fire in building 2 I think was dying down), the fact that many of the alleged highjackers are reportedly still alive, the fact that one of these highjackers who was found to be alive had his passport found in perfect condition in the rubble of the attack even when the black boxes that are designed to survive any plane crash where said to be destroyed, the fact that put options where placed in the stock market indicating forknowledge of the 9/11 attacks, and volumes of other evidence that hasn't ever been adressed by our government which indicates that the higher ups in our government orchistrated and is covering up the truth of the world trade center terrorist attack and used it as a ploy to violate our rights as americans and to dominate the middle east militarily.
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