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Gravy said:
No, I wouldn't want to debate them. They're such hotheaded morons that it wouldn't be interesting.
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Avery is destined to say the wrong thing to the wrong person at some point. Then he will have some lost teeth. He's really too wrapped up in this for his own good.
 
(watching chipmunk's videos....)

OMG...Cynthia McKinney.... And the crowd goes nuts.

Wow.
 
Pardalis said:
Man you're one step away from me calling Chuck Norris and make him roundhouse kick you in the face.:mad:
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Agreed. That's why I didn't touch the "assumptions and theories" part of that post. I do think geggy likes to bait us, even though we eat the bait and the boat he's in each time.
 
geggy said:
Either it was a very sucessful terrorist attack or it was a sloppy one..
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geggy said:
The demolishing of WTC started from the top
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Wow...I step away from the forum for 24 hours and look what happens...Gaggly actually got two statements essentially correct! And it only took over 100 posts to do so!
 
kookbreaker said:
Are you surprised? The Loose Change crew care only about their own egos.
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Some dimwit is claiming Al Franken was called and told not to come to work on 9/11.

One of the LC crew says: "Is there evidence for that?"

ROFLLMFAO When did these guys start caring about evidence?
 
dubfan said:
Random thought: I would be willing to bet my mortgage that we could get Bruce Willis to contribute his voice-over, if he was approached respectfully and seriously. Especially if he (or his agent) was approached by an advocate for the project with ties to the armed forces, and we (collectively) had our isht together.
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I just had a thought. What about the Mythbusters?
 
Gravy said:
What should have been seen and heard at the WTC on 9/11?
That's a serious question. I'd like you to tell us what SHOULD have been seen and heard, from a CT point of view.


This quote from FEMA?

Is it this photo you're talking about? That's WTC 7 on fire in the middle.
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Ha! Another picture that's deceiving. The snoke shouldn't have been shifting sideways. The fire coming from the lower floors shouldn't have ben producing that much smoke, even if it does, the building would've had collapsed sooner. The smoke could possibly have come from the collapsing of wtc 1 and 2.
 
dubfan said:
Some dimwit is claiming Al Franken was called and told not to come to work on 9/11.
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Oh, holy crap. In one of his books, Franken is ridiculing 9-11 CTers. He comments on the whole "4,000 Jews stayed home on 9-11" thing by joking that he was working in the Trade Center and that Ed Koch himself called him and told him to stay home. There's no doubt to anyone who is sane whether he was kidding.
 
geggy said:
The smoke could possibly have come from the collapsing of wtc 1 and 2.
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Agreed. This picture isn't much evidence. For once you are showing good judgment. Now try and apply it to the rest.


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geggy said:
Ha! Another picture that's deceiving. The snoke shouldn't have been shifting sideways. The fire coming from the lower floors shouldn't have ben producing that much smoke, even if it does, the building would've had collapsed sooner. The smoke could possibly have come from the collapsing of wtc 1 and 2.
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The smoke is obviously coming out of WTC7 in that photo. The dust from the collapse of 1 and 2 has pretty much cleared away, and you can see the streams of smoke coming out the windows of WTC7. There's just no question there.

So now you're saying that with that much smoke, WTC7 should have collapsed sooner??? And now we need to come up with reasons why it stood for as long as it did?
 
geggy said:
Ha! Another picture that's deceiving. The snoke shouldn't have been shifting sideways. The fire coming from the lower floors shouldn't have ben producing that much smoke, even if it does, the building would've had collapsed sooner. The smoke could possibly have come from the collapsing of wtc 1 and 2.
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No, geggy. You are wrong again. How many times is that today? The photo is from late in the day. There is a steady wind from the north. See also the photo I posted a few pages ago, from the same angle but closer, which is a video screenshot.

So you're saying that the building did collapse from fire, right? I just want to get that straight.

And do you agree that FEMA was correct in describing what we see in the photos?
 
geggy said:
Ha! Another picture that's deceiving. The snoke shouldn't have been shifting sideways. The fire coming from the lower floors shouldn't have ben producing that much smoke, even if it does, the building would've had collapsed sooner. The smoke could possibly have come from the collapsing of wtc 1 and 2.
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If anybody knows what it means to sell smoke its the Loose Changers!
 
dubfan said:
DID HE SAY THE PEOPLE ARE REALLY SECONDARY?
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Ugghhh, I only managed to make it through about 2 minutes of the first one. I had to stop after nutjob #1 said that such a conspiracy wouldn't take that many people, and those that did it did so "unconsciously". I swear it would be all I can manage not to punch those idiots in the face if I was ever close enough...
 
manny said:
Oh, holy crap. In one of his books, Franken is ridiculing 9-11 CTers. He comments on the whole "4,000 Jews stayed home on 9-11" thing by joking that he was working in the Trade Center and that Ed Koch himself called him and told him to stay home. There's no doubt to anyone who is sane whether he was kidding.
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The funny thing is, I knew that, you knew that--yet no one in that auditorium seemed to know. Many of these people claim they've done years worth of "research", and they haven't cleared up this little tidbit?
 
CurtC said:
The smoke is obviously coming out of WTC7 in that photo. The dust from the collapse of 1 and 2 has pretty much cleared away, and you can see the streams of smoke coming out the windows of WTC7. There's just no question there.
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I tend to agree with geggy on this one, a still picture can be misleading as to when exactly it was taken. It is inconclusive.

But this video on the other hand is ABSOLUTE EVIDENCE that all hell broke out in WTC7.

http://911myths.com/WTC7_Smoke.avi
 
chipmunk stew said:
The funny thing is, I knew that, you knew that--yet no one in that auditorium seemed to know. Many of these people claim they've done years worth of "research", and they haven't cleared up this little tidbit?
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Here's how research works when you're a paranoid lunatic conspiracy theorist:

One original CT web site gets online, other CTers see this and start their own sites, all w/ the same info as the first. This goes on at an exponential rate, until there are a million web sites supporting the CT, giving the CTer a million sites to do "research" on. Of course, they all have the same info as the original site, but every copycat site confirms the reality of the theory for the True Believer.
 
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