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Loose Change - Part IV

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Can we stop mentioning the Ihop song it makes me hungry for breakfast. I also just got the Damn thing out of my head. Now it's back... Bah!

DT
 
That guy in the hat playing that song about MIHOP and LIHOP made me so sad that I almost feel bad for making fun of them. Poor guy.
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Tell you the truth, it took a lot of convincing by my co-producer to stick him in. He does break my heart.

Beeyootiful, hilarious article, by the way.
 
Abbyas said:
Tell you the truth, it took a lot of convincing by my co-producer to stick him in. He does break my heart.
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You can see how much the conspiracy theory has done for him, giving him a purpose and an instant bunch of friends, all with a common goal. I'm guessing that guy has never belonged in a group as well as he belongs in this one.

Thank you for the kind words!
 
Pardalis said:
That's what I don't get. Why don't they do their friggin' "international" investigation already? Who's stopping them? What are they waiting for? Are they waiting for Bush's approval?

I'm pretty sure it's because they are affraid that their new investigation will probably lead to the same conclusions as the official story. They prefer the status quo, in that way, they can keep whining and accusing the government.
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It's like that chemtrail nonsense. All they have to do is rent a research jet, fly it through the contrail of a jet, collect samples of the air and analyze it. They'd have their proof. But they already know what the results would be and that they'd have to give up their little conspiracy. Far better to live in ignorance and remain in Looserville.

Steve S.
 
David Wong said:
That guy in the hat playing that song about MIHOP and LIHOP made me so sad that I almost feel bad for making fun of them. Poor guy.
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Yeah, I don't feel sorry for the Fetzers and the Joneses and the Dylan Averys, but the followers of this stuff are somewhat pathetic creatures. Still, their bubble has to be popped, their heroes exposed as charlatans and frauds.

We get complaints at SLC all the time about our mockery of the CT crowd. I wouldn't do it, except that I know it's effective in preventing the fence-sitters from crossing over to the dark side. I'd cut back if I felt that rational argument worked with the CTers themselves, but I don't think you can reason with them.

As Jonathon Swift observed, "It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."
 
My local paper published my letter to the editor regarding their shoddy article about 9/11 conspiracies. It's in the Sept. 10 Startribune, page AA8, it is under the heading "Why Promote It?". They cut out the part where I compaired it to a cult however. This is as cool as when my letter to the editor got published in Amazing Spiderman.

BTW where's my badge Shrinker?
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1910134&postcount=4221
 
David Wong said:
After reading 10,000 of the 14,000 posts you have on Loose change (my brain started to bleed part way through the part III) and all 3,000 odd posts in christophera's thread on the invisible concrete cores, I know that I can't post external links. You have to keep out the spam bots, I know.

But I have written an article about this and since I "borrowed" a whole lot of research from these very forums, I wanted to share it before I put it up on my own site. This is the address minus the stuff at the beginning:

http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/911truth.html
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Welcome, David! This is hilarious! Thanks for the contribution.
 
We get complaints at SLC all the time about our mockery of the CT crowd.
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For you and Abby and everyone else who feels pangs of guilt at mocking the infinitely mockable, I offer myself up as a sin-eater.

Go right ahead and be as cruel and venomous as you're inclined to be, and if/when your conscience nags at you, just tell it that I said/did it. I don't mind at all. I can be the imaginary friend who gets the blame for drawing on the wall.
 
For any who might be interested, Dallas radio host Mark Davis will be playing audio from a conversation with some Truthers just a few minutes from now:

Streaming audio here: http://wbap.com/article.asp?id=133706

* I don't really dig his politics, but I share his hatred of the Truthers.
 
David Wong said:
After reading 10,000 of the 14,000 posts you have on Loose change (my brain started to bleed part way through the part III) and all 3,000 odd posts in christophera's thread on the invisible concrete cores, I know that I can't post external links. You have to keep out the spam bots, I know.

But I have written an article about this and since I "borrowed" a whole lot of research from these very forums, I wanted to share it before I put it up on my own site. This is the address minus the stuff at the beginning:

http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/911truth.html

You guys seem to be cool with people posting links as long as they're actually relevant to the discussion so I hope this isn't considered breaking some kind of rule. If it is I apologize, I'm not trying to mess up your forums. I've logged probably 75 hours here the last two weeks. This discussion simply isn't happening anywhere else on the level that it's happening here.

There is adult language in that article, by the way.
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Stumbled across a thread at LC forums. This post is great:
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=12991&view=findpost&p=7185261
(ninjafied link): http://www.ninjaproxy.com/cgiproxy/...x.php?showtopic=12991&view=findpost&p=7185261
Hmmm...the style seems familiar...

Yes, it's true that breathing industrial quantities of concrete dust isn't good for you.
CONSPIRACY!

"Scholars" for truth cited this irrefutable bit of science to prove that the damage could not have been caused by airplanes.
CONSPIRACY!

Inspired by this, I tried a little experiment of my own. I filled my bathtub half-way with water, then dumped four bags of ice cubes into it. Then I took my rubber ducky and pushed it around the water really really fast, and unbelievably, it didn't sink.
WHY WON'T THE GOVERNMENT TELL US THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TITANIC???? I'VE PROVEN IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY AN ICEBERG! WITH SCIENCE!

"Scholars" for truth also wrote that the Towers couldn't have fallen the way official reports said they did. In order to illustrate this, they showed that the Keebler Elves' tree would not have fallen if you removed their little cookie factory.

And sure, that's good for a laugh. What's actually offensive about them is that they refer to themselves as "scholars" and their papers as "peer reviewed." I actually am a scholar. I've published articles that have been peer-reviewed. Peer-review is no f*cking picnic. For the last one, I had five independent experts sending me back page after page after page after page of comments and notes and biobliographical suggestions, telling me I needed more support for this and more support for my support of that, and that I might have used the wrong term here, and that I absolutely had to read this other thing before I continued, and so on and so on. Once you add up all the to-and-fro of suggestions and revisions, the article took me exactly eighteen months to finish.

And that was for an article on medieval poetry.

Something tells me that proper peer review wouldn't allow the Keebler Elf model to slip through the cracks.

I know a little something about research, as it happens, and what I've noticed is this: these long lists of websites and whatnot that you folks keep telling everyone to read in order to "prove" your point continuously cite each other. It's a self-referential circle-jerk of ludicrous proportions.

And, lastly, what I find truly saddening about this site is that for a group of people who regularly test the limits of free speech, you seem awfully intolerant of those who show up here to exercise it. Everybody who disagrees with you gets banned. I'm pretty sure I know what you'd say if the same happened to you anywhere else on the internet:

"CONSPIRACY!"

And since I'll be banned once your lot gets back from their afternoon of insulting the bereaved at ground zero, have a nice week!
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You just can't make this stuff up.

Jerry a big loonie at LC said:
Acura RDX.

Do you THINK they might be targeting their audience with a subliminal message? --You guys (most of you, I'm sure) do know what RDX is. Guess it's the times we live in; name an automobile after the primary explosive used in controlled demolitions (the same that most likely was used to demolish three buildings of the World Trade Center) and perhaps people will not think it such a bad thing (in a twisted sense of advertising reality) after all -- It has a super-fine car named after it. Acura RDX.
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http://www.unipeak.com/gethtml.php?...nZV9Gb3J1bS9pbmRleC5waHA/c2hvd3RvcGljPTEzMTcw

Jerry by the way is a grandfather. His DNA has soiled 2 generations of humans.
 
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A Reminder--Screw Loose Change on the Radio Tonight

I will be on The World Tonight with Rob Breakenridge of AM 770, CHQR Monday night, September 11, at 10:00 PM Eastern Time to discuss the 9-11 Conspiracy Theories. For those of you not fortunate enough to live in Calgary, you can listen in live here. We will be taking callers. The call-in numbers are 1-800-563-7770, or 403-974-8255. Rob is hoping to fit in a whole hour on the topic of 9-11 Denial, but obviously it depends on the level of listener interest and breaking news.
 
negativ said:
That's too bad, because it's a valid point.

Got a link to your letter?
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The other day I couldn't find the article on the papers site, but I found the letters regarding it. Here's mine:
http://www.startribune.com/563/story/665124.html

With what they cut out they almost make me sound like a fascist, but all I want is for them to do their job and inform the public. Don't make us go to websites for our research.
 
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