Loose Change - Part IV

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Aloha all,

Just wanted to say that I sat and read through all four threads (YES all of them) and am glad to see such rational debates as well as humor interlaced with arguments here on this board, concerning 9/11. I've been a lurker for much, and decided to join, since its close to 9/11/2006.

I've passed on Screw Loose Change to people I know, and pointed others to many of the websites that were presented in the four threads (and now, other threads here) concerning 9/11.

Of course, there are still a few "truthers" out there that live in their own world (Im debating 6 of them on Scam.com in their political and their Controversial forums - drop by sometime ^_^) . I honestly can't believe how these people can believe the crap that these conspiracy theories want you to believe.

Abby, your video hade me in tears; I just enjoyed your narration. Keep it up!

To MarkyX (as you are known on YouTube), I've followed and bookmarked all your videos. Just too bad that the truthers have to post comments that were long debunked to your hard work.

To JamesB and Brainster, your blog provides entertainment in the dull days in the office.

Who did i miss? well, if I missed you guys, a big mahalo to you for providing links and well thought out discussions. Im not as articulate as you folks in disproving the cter's claims, so I just try to push people to this site. Of course, its like trying to get people to go to the dentist.

Hopefully, I can learn more and make my arguments stronger.


And I was once a "Looser", that is, when I saw the first edition of Loose Change, I thought it was "real", but Im not "dumb" to just sit back and take everything it stated at face value. With just one google search, I realize how much facts were missing from those filmmakers "mockumentary". Yes, if its the truth, then why would there need to be more than one version?
 
Welcome Arus808

And I was once a "Looser", that is, when I saw the first edition of Loose Change, I thought it was "real", but Im not "dumb" to just sit back and take everything it stated at face value. With just one google search, I realize how much facts were missing from those filmmakers "mockumentary". Yes, if its the truth, then why would there need to be more than one version?

That just made my day. There is still hope. Thanks Arus! :)
 
Who did i miss? well, if I missed you guys, a big mahalo to you for providing links and well thought out discussions. Im not as articulate as you folks in disproving the cter's claims, so I just try to push people to this site. Of course, its like trying to get people to go to the dentist.

Just tell them to go to Universal Seed--oh, wait a minute, that's my Chuck Sheen persona!

Welcome to the board, Arus! We appreciate the compliments!
 
Aloha all,

Just wanted to say that I sat and read through all four threads (YES all of them) and am glad to see such rational debates as well as humor interlaced with arguments here on this board, concerning 9/11. I've been a lurker for much, and decided to join, since its close to 9/11/2006.


I've been working on this thread for several weeks and have just caught up to the present. Glad to see I had company.

Welcome to JREF. If you can keep up. The volume and speed of posts are !!!
 
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My limit's about 75GB/month, if it does get to that point I'll probably end up moving it to my Dreamhost account.

Welcome, Zach!

Terrific site - truly wonderful work you've done there!
 
Not long:
s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=12583

(Ninjafied link): ninjaproxy.com/cgiproxy/nph-proxy.pl/001110A/http/s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=12583

"He has a W stamped on his head!"

Good grief, those guys are sad.
 
Going to test out the censorship on this board right now..

They ****ing complain at me for 9/11 Deniers Speak on "Character Attacks", yet these mother****ers circle jerk with a picture of Abby over a 15 minute video?
 
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Aloha all,

Welcome, Arus808.

This really is a great site at which to find facts and evidence to strengthen your knowledge base and to develop cogent arguments, unlike the conspiracy sites which, as you have discovered, are wholly lacking in critical thought, use only the "facts" that suit their purposes, and cannot stand to be introduced to actual facts and evidence.

Again, welcome.
 
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They ****ing complain at me for 9/11 Deniers Speak on "Character Attacks",

They are delusional. They cannot properly accuse you of "character attacks" when 9/11 Deniers Speak consists of the deniers' own ugly words, mockery, and scorn heaped upon victims and their families.


yet these mother****ers circle jerk with a picture of Abby over a 15 minute video?

Well, the deniers are not noted for their intelligence. They probably do not even recognize their own vileness, and they probably do not recognize the difference between attacking someone on a personal level without cause (as they have done to Abby) and bringing to light the ugliness of one's own words (as the 911 Deniers Speak video does).
 
Going to test out the censorship on this board right now..

They ****ing complain at me for 9/11 Deniers Speak on "Character Attacks", yet these mother****ers circle jerk with a picture of Abby over a 15 minute video?



No Marky, this is GOOD evidence. Please, keep these comments because whenever you want to prove why truthers are nothing more than adolescent neanderthals, you have these "quotes" to back up their behaviour.
 
Welcome DanKirby to the JREF Skeptics Forum on Conspiracy Theories. Debate here can be heated, but is always fair. If your evidence holds water, than you will do fine, if it doesn't people will call you on it. What ever your opinion, it will be allowed, if not accepted.

TAM (unofficial welcome committee member)
:D

oops...lol...you were actually here before me...ah, welcome anyway...:)
 
Just wanted to say that I sat and read through all four threads (YES all of them) and am glad to see such rational debates as well as humor interlaced with arguments here on this board, concerning 9/11. I've been a lurker for much, and decided to join, since its close to 9/11/2006.

Very nice of you to read all four. That takes some guts.

Of course, there are still a few "truthers" out there that live in their own world (Im debating 6 of them on Scam.com in their political and their Controversial forums - drop by sometime ^_^) .

Tell them Belz... calls them dorks.

Who did i miss?

Who do you think ?? :mad:

And I was once a "Looser", that is, when I saw the first edition of Loose Change, I thought it was "real", but Im not "dumb" to just sit back and take everything it stated at face value. With just one google search, I realize how much facts were missing from those filmmakers "mockumentary". Yes, if its the truth, then why would there need to be more than one version?

Ah, yes. The rare ability to check facts for oneself. [Obi-Wan voice] Use the facts, Arus. Let go! [/Obi-Wan, as Arus switched off his targetting computer.]
 
Apparently Gordon Ross and Craig Furlong have put out a paper for the "Scholars" that is suppose to prove that the seismic data from 9/11 proves it was an inside job...

http://www.st911.org/

TAM

Don't worry, I believe we will be covering that one in the Debunking Journal. We got a big laugh when we read that one. I could start with the fact that the basement explosions wouldn't make Love waves.
http://www.vibrationdata.com/Newsletters/November2001_NL.pdf

Or that we have Pavel Hlava's impact times of 8:46:28 9:02:56
http://www.terrorize.dk/911/wtc2hit2/
http://www.terrorize.dk/911/wtc1hit2/

We've got lots more but we're still finishing research to double check everything.



Also, the Debunking Journal just got a nod in Inside Higher Education
http://insidehighered.com/views/2006/09/06/mclemee
 
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OOps, props to GRAVY , BELZ and all. (how did i miss GRavy? )

Anyone have links to any video that show the collapse of WTC 7 from the southside, that is unobstructed? Some dont believe that there was huge damage to the south side.
 
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