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Loose Change - Part IV

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LashL said:
Typical of loosers to take a semblance of reality and twist it into something that does not remotely resemble the truth.
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One looser told me that we went to war over 22 trillion dollars a year in oil.

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Mancman said:
Dylan reckons he has uncovered a new smoking gun: 'videos of flashes going off inside WTC7 hours before collapse' http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=12256&st=0&#entry7076466

Watch the video however(a hefty 79mb for 11 seconds of footage) and it looks like something fusing. A big load of nothing.
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Wait, we are expected to believe that some flashes hours befoer the collapse are the bombs?

Okaay...

let me guess....electrical problems caused by falling debris from the Twin Towers...fyi, this is not an isolated incident. i have 4 or 5 other clips where similar things occur, and much more rapid...
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Probably. I do have a video of a electric transformer blowing and guess what? The flashes I'm seeing in those shots look quite identical to the electric transformer.

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Now their images...

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9/11 Deniers like visual evidence, so I'm curious what they have to say about this.
 
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Mancman said:
Dylan reckons he has uncovered a new smoking gun: 'videos of flashes going off inside WTC7 hours before collapse' http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=12256&st=0&#entry7076466

Watch the video however(a hefty 79mb for 11 seconds of footage) and it looks like something fusing. A big load of nothing.
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Dylan? "Film maker" ha ha ha ha!

Exposure, sonny, brightness is relative - or didn't your teacher tell you about exposure ratios?

Oh, I forgot, everything you know, you taught yourself! You had an idiot for a student. And a dope for a teacher


Back up Dylan, and call for a Do-Over!
 
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Watch the video however(a hefty 79mb for 11 seconds of footage) and it looks like something fusing. A big load of nothing.
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I'm having trouble downloading it, so I have not seen it yet. I don't know much about these things, but is not that amount of memory for that length of video very odd?
 
sleahead said:
I'm having trouble downloading it, so I have not seen it yet. I don't know much about these things, but is not that amount of memory for that length of video very odd?
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Isn't an HDTV signal something like 6 Mbits/second? 79 Mbytes in 11 seconds is 57 Mbits/second!
 
Submersible said:
If you understood and accepted the contents of the food that goes into your mouth

crazy paranoid ****

.. that we don't even recognize that we are being slaughtered with cancer, among other diseases in our own country.
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Is there a competition going on here for the most insane CTist? I think you stand a pretty good chance to equal Sir Knight and Christophera.

edited: Killtown isn't insane, he's just mean

Did any of you ever play with "Lincoln Logs" ???
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Lincoln logs??? Are you serious? Is that the extent of your understanding of structural engeneering? No wonder you believe the CT crap.

It's like someone is playing a game with our peace of mind.
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Yes, someone is playing with your peace of mind allright, the CTists!

I thought this was a forum of intelligent minded people who could accept what their eyes can see in the images and videos instead of reading the "reports" which are as worthless as toilet paper, because the evidence that was analyzed no longer exist.
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This doesn't even dignify a response.

It would seem that most rational minded people that have accepted the fact that our protection agencies have failed to actually protect us, could also accept the fact that the system has infact, for some reason, chosen to intentionally poison the American mind with chemicals and propaganda.
sorry.
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Have you seen the movie Dr. Strangelove by any chance?

We ARE all ONE
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What's with this Borg ideology? If we are all "one", that means that you are also one with Bush, Cheney and all the others you despise.
 
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MarkyX said:
Wait, we are expected to believe that some flashes hours befoer the collapse are the bombs?

Okaay...



Probably. I do have a video of a electric transformer blowing and guess what? The flashes I'm seeing in those shots look quite identical to the electric transformer.


Now their images...

9/11 Deniers like visual evidence, so I'm curious what they have to say about this.
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Once during college I was hanging around my dorm, and there was this tremendous explosion. I swear it sounded like a car bomb, and I was on the 9th floor, I dove for cover. This was during the Gulf War and I had just gotten off of active duty a couple of months earlier, so maybe I was a little jumpy. Anyway, nothing further happened and the fire department came. Turns out a transformer exploded. But I guess that proves there was controlled demolition in my dormitory.
 
Submersible said:
And I don't like reading a bunch of official B.S.! reports that say different, to me it would seem that common sense would explain that to most people when they see the images or video footage of the towers as they fell.
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It's deja vu all over again. CTer after CTer comes in here and in response to all the hard science and figures quoted in these threads, says it "seems" that "common sense" derived from looking at "images or video" outweighs actual physics.

Submersible, any "common sense" that tells you that CD was responsible for the towers' fall is neither "common" nor "sense", in any sane definition of the word. Also, you didn't need to tell us that you don't like reading - it was obvious from your very first post.
 
Pardalis said:
Have you seen the movie Dr. Strangelove by any chance?
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I always KNEW aspertame was part of the international neo-con conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids. Get Premier Kissov on the hotline!
 
Submersible:OFF TOPIC

I work in Healthcare. I can tell you that anyone who has convinced you that the medical community or the drug companies are hiding cures for Cancer is FOS.

The ONLY, ONLY, types of cancer that can be cured are those that are surgically resectable (Cut them out), an deven this is not guaranteed, just possible.. All others can be reduced, or placed in remission via Chemo and/or radiation therapy. Now for some cancers that can still mean years and years of extended life, but the cancer is still not cured. If you understood how cancer works, you would know this. Cancer is your bodies own cells, mutated to grow in an abnormal fashion and or accelerated rate. If even one cell of cancer remains, the possibility for a recurrance exists.

There is no drug presently, nor do I think there will be, that can absolutely cure cancer. I think we will see a day when Chemo is so good, that people will be able to live out normal, long lives, even with cancer in their bodies, through extended remission, and overwhelming the cancer each time it recurs.

B-17 is crap. Show me one <b>double blind control trial </b>that proves it <b>cures</b> cancer, just one, in a respected journal, and I will give it further consideration. For it to cure cancer, I would want to see 10 year follow up studies on the same patients who got it, showing NO SIGN of cancer. Other wise, at most it would be a natural Chemo agent, and nothing more.

TAM
 
negativ said:
I always KNEW aspertame was part of the international neo-con conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids. Get Premier Kissov on the hotline!
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Do you realize that in addition to artificially sweetening coffee, why, there are studies underway to artificially sweeten salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Children's ice cream!

I had artificial sweetener in my coffee after the physical act of making love, and I felt a profound sense of fatigue. Luckily, I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of coffee. Women sense my caffeine and they seek the coffee. I do not avoid women, but I do deny them my coffee!
 
Submersible said:
...Regardless what the "professionals" say, there is no way in hell that each and every beam in the "extreme heat" zone would have failed to support the weight of the structure at the same time.
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"Regardless what the 'professionals' say?"

Should you ever have chest pains and sharp jabs in your left arm accompanied by shortness of breath, will you be consulting a heart specialist, or will the opinion of a guy who collects episodes of Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman do?

And I don't like reading a bunch of official B.S.! reports that say different...
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Do you understand what confirmation bias is?

...to me it would seem that common sense would explain that to most people when they see the images or video footage of the towers as they fell.
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"Common sense" indicates that the Earth is flat. Do you believe it isn't? If not, why not?

Did any of you ever play with "Lincoln Logs" ???
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Which no more represent the Twin Towers than Barbie does Naomi Watts.

The overwhelming reality is that an accurate investigation into the entire soap-opera cannot be done because the evidence no longer exist in the "physical" realm or it is not available.
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The "overwhelming reality" is that an accurate investigation has been completed. Too bad you don't like the results.

A simple release of video footage from the cameras surrounding the pentagon would eliminate much of the confusion.
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My guess? No amount of video footage, or information of any kind, will disuade CTers from their appointed rounds.

It's not so much that the "they" broke it off in our ass, after almost 5 years of controversy there was ONE more clip of video that supposedly shows an airplane approaching the structure.. but there was no airplane in the image. It's like someone is playing a game with our peace of mind.
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It was a security camera, taking frames at a slow rate, trained on an entrance gate. The jet impacted the Pentagon at a speed too fast for the camera.

I thought this was a forum of intelligent minded people who could accept what their eyes can see in the images and videos instead of reading the "reports" which are as worthless as toilet paper, because the evidence that was analyzed no longer exist.
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You seem stuck on this "evidence that...no longer exist [sic]" business. No amount of reviewing the physical materials could produce evidence that is satisfactory to you. Why? You would dismiss it as you've done so far.

And while you may never understand, "what [your] eyes can see" is often unreliable, if not downright false. Would you like an example?

We are discussing the greates crime of all times and the evidence does not exist. It would seem logical that if you were looking for the "suspects" that you wouldn't have to look any further than those who erased the overwhelming majority of the physical evidence. right ?
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No. No no no no no. No.
 
T.A.M. said:
Submersible:OFF TOPIC

I work in Healthcare. I can tell you that anyone who has convinced you that the medical community or the drug companies are hiding cures for Cancer is FOS.
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I've said it before: I dare any of these 'Cancer cures are being supressed by doctors' crowd to go up to a medical professional who works in the Cancer ward of a hospital (one of the most depressing jobs in medicine as I understand it). They should then explain their theory, with full inclusion that they consider the people working in the Cancer ward to be just as culpable.

They might then reconsider their flakey opinions while their face is being reattached.
 
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