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Loose Change - Part IV

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As long as nobody recreates Gypsy's 4th of July Flag stunt, my lunch will stay down.


And raucous laughter after some real woo, followed by an earnest look can keep 'em guessing, along with glances around to see if you were the only one to get the joke.
 
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From the Wayback Machine of this thread (post 2715 by Dr Adequate), two video clips, one of the South Tower collapsing and another of a REAL controlled demolition of a skyscraper. The button even pushed by a young, Boy Scout.

(I can't quote external URLs yet)

My reaction to the for-real CD is: WOW! Cool video. I've only seen a couple of these on TV news (Three Rivers Stadium is the one that springs to mind...boy that was sad), but this let me see AND hear what the pop-pops really sound like.

Just like you never get to hear the sonic boom when the space shuttle lands (because the commentators never shut their yaps), I'd never heard all the noise from a CD before. And the video showed the flashes like, well, they looked almost like, fireflies.

Very interesting, Dr A, thanks for posting

(and I'm even a Browns fan ... but somebody stole our team)


eta to TRY to add the link to the original post on Jref, but that seems to be considered an external link. By the time I figure it out, I'll have 15 posts (this being 13)
 
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Jennie C. said:
From the Wayback Machine of this thread (post 2715 by Dr Adequate), two video clips, one of the South Tower collapsing and another of a REAL controlled demolition of a skyscraper. The button even pushed by a young, Boy Scout.

(I can't quote external URLs yet)

My reaction to the for-real CD is: WOW! Cool video. I've only seen a couple of these on TV news (Three Rivers Stadium is the one that springs to mind...boy that was sad), but this let me see AND hear what the pop-pops really sound like.

Just like you never get to hear the sonic boom when the space shuttle lands (because the commentators never shut their yaps), I'd never heard all the noise from a CD before. And the video showed the flashes like, well, they looked almost like, fireflies.
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Jennie, it sounds like you're talking about the demolition of the Landmark Tower building. I remember seeing a video of it in which a young boy presses the button for detonation in one version of that demo. But there is another view of it taken from a helicopter which is even better because of its vantage point - it shows the entire building and has some visuals that were not apparent in the boy scout version that I saw - as well as the sound, of course. Here is a link:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6979955002470780153
 
Mancman said:
Has anyone done a critique of this Barrie Zwicker film - 'The Great Conspiracy'?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6529813972926262623
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I started watching the video, thinking that I'd do a critique as I'm actually looking for a research project to tackle, but man, that guy is painful to watch and listen to.

It's basically just him sitting there, spouting his opinions with next to no citations or evidence but loads of innuendo and accusation, with the occasional short video clip thrown in.

I was typing notes while watching it, then realized that perhaps I could find a transcript online and lo and behold:

http://www.greatconspiracy.ca/pdfs/...df#search=""the great conspiracy" transcript"

There appears to be nothing of note in the entire thing; it appears to consist of all the same old crap although with perhaps more focus on the war pretext angle (Reichstag fire, Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, Kuwaiti incubators) and a bit more aim at the media complicity which allows GWB to get away with the whole conspiracy.

The usual suspects: Norad stand down; war games; GWB's behaviour at the Booker elementary school on the morning of 9/11 and later saying that he saw the first plane on television outside the classroom; PNAC and the new Pearl Harbor; Webster Tarpley; Naudet brothers film means prior knowledge; slowness in appointing commission; less spent on 9/11 commission than other investigations; lack of independence of the commission; jet fuel can't melt steel; SAMS at the Pentagon; WTC7 had only minor fires, fell in free fall into its own footprint, obviously a controlled demolition done for some nefarious purpose relating to the Enron documents that he supposes would have been housed at the SEC offices; Larry Silverstein admits that it was a controlled demolition via the "pull it" comment; 9/11 commission should be called the 9/11 coverup commission; media complicity; only the few and the brave can see the trooth and the rest of us just really want to be lied to because we do not want to have to face the big bad truth.

There really isn't much in it that hasn't been thoroughly done before. The only slight difference about this piece of drivel and most of the others is that he talks a bit more about media complicity (calls himself a media critic, so I guess that's why) and he draws some direct and not at all subtle comparisons between Hitler and Bush.

Like I said, I didn't watch it the whole thing because it really was too agonizing to watch him for more than the first 20 minutes (which took me a lot longer than that because I was typing a paraphrased transcript at first so kept pausing and typing, pausing and typing, etc).

It probably isn't even worth critiquing because it's unlikely that anyone watches it all the way through.

That said, it would be a simple matter of using the work that has already been done and rearranging the order to match the video if the people who have done the prior work don't mind. I.e. it's all in the Loose Change guides, with very few exceptions.
 
One of the loosers has figured out that the UN is going to invade the US... somehow the organization that stood by helplessly throughout every conflict in the past 50 years is suddenly going to take over the most powerful country on the planet. :eye-poppi
 
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Even our National Guard are being sent "over there". We are left, here at home, with NO PROTECTION.
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the guard is being sent overseas because the regular army is being rotated back here, we have the same amount of protection weve had for at least the last 5 years

another thing is, dont US forces comprise most, if not all UN forces?
 
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OMG...

When does the UN "Invade" anything. The only time they do anything besides give opinion on a matter, is when a country needs "Help". They don't "invade". Just when you think they have said the dumbest thing they possibly could on a matter...
 
WildCat said:
One of the loosers has figured out that the UN is going to invade the US... somehow the organization that stood by helplessly throughout every conflict in the past 50 years is suddenly going to take over the most powerful country on the planet. :eye-poppi
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Oh man. Every time I think I know the extent of their stupidity, they just up and surprise me. You've got to love this, though:

Oh! & breed specific legislation will have gotten rid of another
weapon...our big dogs. (see the battle raging to stop BSL at yahoo!
group...BSL56-UAOA
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The U.N. must get rid of your big dawgs before they invade!
 
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Now I know there are a lot of security cams in London, but 4 million?!
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Typical of loosers to take a semblance of reality and twist it into something that does not remotely resemble the truth.

I believe that there are roughly 4 million CCTV cameras in Britain (they have been using them since the mid 1960s, I think) but as any fool knows, there is more to Britain than just London.
 
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