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Loose Change - Part IV

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LC 23 comes out yesterday, and you guys are going on about thrust,lift etc..
Is this the sex, or DennyTario forum?
No Offense ment!
 
Abbyas said:
I've been suspended again at good old LC forums.

Johndoex loves it when you ask a question he can't answer.

Good thing he's stuck on the ground in front of a computer screen 24/7 and can't do any real damage.

He makes me want to up my med dosage.
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Johndoe is unbelieveable (in many ways)
 
Dog Town said:
LC 23 comes out yesterday, and you guys are going on about thrust,lift etc..
Is this the sex, or DennyTario forum?
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theres nothig to debunk in LC2ER, its all the same old stuff weve been debunking

**awaits a CTer to mine the "nothing to debunk" quote and use it out of context**
 
Darth Rotor said:
For the same thrust, a heavier plane would accelerate more slowly while stying on the same glide slope. Or isn't that what we are talking about? Are you saying the RoD would increase more quickly for a change in nose attitude, given that we are at max power?
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I'm strictly speaking of descents at any power setting, as long as its the same between the lighter and heavier loaded plane.
Lets see if we can get on the same page with a few things....

-In an aircraft such as a 757, at a given thrust, wouldnt the airplane speed up as AoA decreases(nose down attitude)? And slow down as AoA increased?

-At a given thrust, wouldnt the airplane speed up as RoD increases? And slow down as RoC increased?

-All other factors being the same in an identical plane, wouldnt the heavier airplane have a top of descent(3X rule?) that is farther from the airport?(I'm almost positive of this)

Wouldn't what we are talking about be the opposite in a climb, theoretically?(This is where I may be wrong!!)
If you are saying a heavier loaded plane wouldnt accelerate as fast descending at a given rate(-2000 fpm) and thrust(say 50%), aren't you saying that it will decelerate less slowly while climbing as well? I know thats not the case and I can prove it by looking at some 757 performance charts, which I do have at my disposal.

What actually would happen, from a stick and rudder perspective, would be that to maintain the picture (fixed on the impact point of the Pentagon) of the glide in attack from 2000 feet to about 40 or zero feet, with fixed power, the pilot has to adjust the angle of attack with his nose to maintain the desired glide path. A heavier aircraft would, all other things being equal, be a few knots slower on that glide path due to needing the marginally increased lift to hold glide slope as constant.

Again, starting at the same point over the ground, about 4 nm away at 2000 feet, to hit a spot on the side of the Pentagon at "0" feet, you have to counter act the increased weight with a slightly increased lift to stay on glide slope, which means slightly higher nose attitude/angle of attack, which means slower airspeed. Trying to stay on identical airspeed with a heavier plane makes for, at identical power settings, a higher rate of descent. But the point is to hit the target.
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I agree that a heavier airplane needs nose up correction to maintain RoD. I still think it speeds it however.
Can we agree that in a descent, given the same AoA/thrust, the heavier airplane will have a higher rate of descent, thus having a higher speed?


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DogTown said:
LC 23 comes out yesterday, and you guys are going on about thrust,lift etc..
Is this the sex, or DennyTario forum?
No Offense ment!
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Hey now, some of find this boring sh[rule8] interesting!
 
Well one of the CT slipped and let their ultimate plan out of the bag
What if it's too late to expose Zionism after we expose 911? Although I'm confused how Zionism would survive if we were to take over america and dethrone the criminals.
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I really hope that was meant as a collective we, and not a CT only we.
 
I'm confused how Zionism would survive if we were to take over america and dethrone the criminals.
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These kids are inches away from going terrorist! Blowing things up comes next, in their little fictional revolution! Not in my hood!Bring It!
 
(1) Welcome eeyore..I notice you are new blood here. I recall seeing you at the LC Forum, while I was Lurking. I can't remember if you were CT or Debunker, but either way, you are welcome here.

(2) As far as the CTers being close to Terrorists, I would only say that I have seen a person, who I know relatively well, go from a mild interest in 9/11 Inside job to full blown "if I had the money to get there, I'd march on washington and ground zero" obsessionalism (and this guy lives 1500 miles from GZ). In my opinion, as harmless as you think they are, tehy have the potential to rise up and be as dangerous as the Terrorists of 9/11.
 
As far as the CTers being close to Terrorist, I would only see that I have seen a person, who I know relatively well, go from a mild interest in 9/11 Inside job to full blown "if I had the money to get there, I'd march on washington and ground zero" obsessionalism (and this guy lives 1500 miles from GZ). In my opinion, as harmless as you think they are, tehy have the potential to rise up and be as dangerous as the Terrorists of 9/11.
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Glad he doesn't have the funds, and has you to watch over! Jeeezis!I still can't find one!
 
T.A.M. said:
(2) As far as the CTers being close to Terrorists, I would only say that I have seen a person, who I know relatively well, go from a mild interest in 9/11 Inside job to full blown "if I had the money to get there, I'd march on washington and ground zero" obsessionalism (and this guy lives 1500 miles from GZ). In my opinion, as harmless as you think they are, tehy have the potential to rise up and be as dangerous as the Terrorists of 9/11.
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were kennedy CTers like this in the 60s? is it alot of talk about nothing, or are we seeing a whole new breed of CTer here?
 
were kennedy CTers like this in the 60s? is it alot of talk about nothing, or are we seeing a whole new breed of CTer here?
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Super dooper internet crazy new! Grew up in Dallas 60's.Nothen like this! Besides ....the Maffia took him down!
 
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were kennedy CTers like this in the 60s? is it alot of talk about nothing, or are we seeing a whole new breed of CTer here?
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It's funny, people on the LC board are talking about how you don't need a permit if there will be no shouting. If they have the numbers that they want down there (unlikely), there will definitely be shouting.

I will give serious "props" to the NYPD if the poo does not hit the fan on 9/11. Mix a bunch of emotional firemen together with nutty CTs, and the results can't be good.
 
If this is true it is great. Someone posted that Loose Change had been covered on Turkish Tv, and a new user posted this link http://www.aksam.com.tr/haberpop.asp?a=50283,5 as being where it was shown. Since it was that persons first post it may have been a joke, but if not it is a proud moment for us.

*edit* It seems that the one skeptic moderator, after being removed from his position, has now also been banned. It's a great year for the truth.
 
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I saw an item on their schedule listed as "Vets for truth" and I thought Wha..?
What does any of this have to do with animal doctors?
Then I realised it was short for veterans.
I suppose serving in the military doesn't make people immune to this stuff.
 
Abbyas said:
One tin soldier rides aloooooone.

Good lord, they imply that Firefighters are complicit in the cover up of the attacks, especially those that knew that WTC7 was going to fall, and they don't expect hubbub? Do they really see themselves as some sort of Malcom X?

Do these guys even have a permit to march?
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With that brain, it's amazing they can actually breathe, let alone march.
 
On my blog, www.911yj.blogspot.com (yes ok, groan at the plug...sorry), I have published an open call for CTers to rethink going to what I have named CONSPIRAPALOOZA 2006 at GZ. I think we should make some sort of effort to keep them civil, If we can not get them to reconsider going there. I know Gravy, Abby, and the gang will be there, but I was hoping someone could brainstorm on how those of us who can't get there, could somehow help.

Any thoughts?
 
mrfreeze said:
If this is true it is great. Someone posted that Loose Change had been covered on Turkish Tv, and a new user posted this link http://www.aksam.com.tr/haberpop.asp?a=50283,5 as being where it was shown. Since it was that persons first post it may have been a joke, but if not it is a proud moment for us.

*edit* It seems that the one skeptic moderator, after being removed from his position, has now also been banned. It's a great year for the truth.
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Is that Screw Loose Change? As in MarkyX's video?
Maybe they simply didn't realize.
 
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