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Loose Change - Part IV

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brumsen said:
To repeat, my question was: how does NIST justify the assumption that the collapse continues all the way down after what they call collapse initiation?
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I had to pull this one out from a few pages back.

Asking this question is like asking will the egg break when I drop the bowling ball on it from ten foot up.

The force of the the live load that the top part of the building exerts on the floors is several magnitudes more than they where designed to withstand. It would of been a bloody miracle if they didnt collapse.
 
So they are swimming in bliss over at LC now, over some article Lou Dobbs did today, called 9/11 Lies. Apparently it is nothing more than going over the failures and misquotes of FAA and NORAD (The tapes etc..) but they are all floating over there...anyone catch it and record it...anyone seen it?
 
T.A.M. said:
So they are swimming in bliss over at LC now, over some article Lou Dobbs did today, called 9/11 Lies. Apparently it is nothing more than going over the failures and misquotes of FAA and NORAD (The tapes etc..) but they are all floating over there...anyone catch it and record it...anyone seen it?
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No. It's based on the Vanity Fair article, which is terrific. It's ironic that the Loosers would like it because it also debunks pretty thoroughly the whole LIHOP/stand down scenario.
 
gumboot said:
As they say, they found no evidence, therefore simply saying "we found no evidence" IS their findings. Would you prefer an enormous data base of materials which were investigated, with "No evidence of explosives or explosive residue found" on every single one?
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That's a great way of phrasing it.
 
brumsen said:
Hmm, just heard (from Greening) how the 'Scholars' (yes, I'll have to start using scare quotes now) handled the peer review of Greening's paper. It was reviewed by... Gordon Ross. Ahum.
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Welcome to the Dark Side. Don't forget, you have to use scare quotes around "truth" also.
 
Abbyas said:
Not sure if this has been discussed, but the village voice's article on 911 conspiracy movies mentions MarkyX

http://www.villagevoice.com/film/0632,halter,74115,20.html

It's also a rather scathing little piece. Hooray for the sane on the left.
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The Lefty gatekeepers, as the Deniers call them, have been doing a pretty good job of barring entry, but cracks are certainly starting to appear. Air American Phoenix has become a bastion of Denial, with only the national hosts (Franken, Rhodes & Seder) holding out. Most of the major liberal blogs have agreed not to push 9-11 Denial, but the Huffington Post has had several posts on the subject (in fairness, some skeptical). Daily Kos, the most read and influential liberal blog, bans any of their sub-bloggers from writing positively about the Deniers. Oddly enough that policy was enacted on July 8, 2005 in the wake of the London Bombings the day before. In fact, only one mid-level liberal blog aside from the Huffpo has covered Loose Change; none of the majors will touch it (although it is quite often debated in the comments sections).
 
Brainster said:
The Lefty gatekeepers, as the Deniers call them, have been doing a pretty good job of barring entry, but cracks are certainly starting to appear.
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As much as ,I hate the fact this even has to happen! I am like a giddy school girl(no offense to school girls, giddy or otherwise). The more light shown on these Cock-A-Roaches. The more they will be forced into the duck and cover mode(see LCF).When the major heavies weigh in on this, they will get thrashed! Oft used quote;" They Will Awaken the Academic Beast"!
Along with crack well paid reseach staffs. It will be like Hitlers bunker durring the fall. NOTzis LOOSERS again! Hurrah! All you Big Kats here will have been, and are, the tip of the sword. So to speak, and I am speaking!

I Love This Town!

DT
 
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Dog Town said:
Along with crack well paid reseach staffs. It will be like Hitlers bunker durring the fall. Natzi factions LOOSERS again! Hurrah! All you Big Kats here will have been, and are, the tip of the sword. So to speak, and I am speaking!
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(bolding mine)
"Notzis" might be a good term for the LC mods.
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Kent1 said:
This is an old school CT theory started by Michel Chossudovsky
Bill Herbert has a decent rebuttle. Although it could be updated.

http://mckinneysucks.blogspot.com/2002_07_01_mckinneysucks_archive.html#78639317
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Update about the money yes. The rest is a joke. The first time he shows,what was left out of the article. Then he shows his own,"BS", that was added to it, you just gotta say he's #1. The way these Cters love to subtract things from articles, and then add their own crap.I'm starting to think they are all C.P.A's. Really bad ones, 2 boot!

(no offense to any CPA's that may reside in this town)

DT
 
Johnny Pixels said:
From the British 9/11 Denial movement, hilarity, as they "profile" Jay Ref:

Just thought I'd wait until Jay Ref clocked off for the day before posting his/her track record, since joining this forum on July 20th.

Joined Forum: 20th July 2006

Total Posts as at 9.20pm Weds 9th August 2006 = 223

Average posts per 'working day' = 14

Date: ----1st Post----Last Post
9/8--------2.18pm-----8.57pm
8/8--------2.22pm-----9.12pm
7/8--------2.27pm-----9.03pm
Sun 6/8--------------------------
Sat 5/8---6.58pm-----7.50pm - (1hrs Overtime?)
4/8--------3.45pm-----8.41pm
3/8--------3.10pm-----6.32pm
2/8--------2.22pm-----8.59pm
1/8--------1.56pm-----9.13pm
31/7-------2.33pm-----9.16pm
Sun 30/7------------------------
Sat 29/7------------------------
28/7-------2.33pm-----9.03pm
27/7-------3.05pm-----9.07pm
26/7-------5.20pm-----9.45pm
25/7-------4.28pm-----7.09pm
24/7-------2.05pm-----10.54pm
Sun 23/7-------------------------
Sat 22/7------------------------
21/7-------3.02pm-----10.17pm
20/7-------4.05pm------8.55pm

In addition to the above, Jay Ref has posted on just two occasions outside of his/her ‘Office Hours’:
1) 1.25am on 28/7
2) 4.36am on 24/7

A few pertinent observations:
1). Jay Ref's current assignment probably began on Monday 18th July; thereby allowing a couple of days to browse the forum before taking on the mantle of Forum Skeptic (or Sceptic as you say in England)

2). Jay Ref doesn't work weekends, although he/she may have booked 1hrs overtime on Saturday 5th Aug.

3). Jay Ref starts work at 2pm (UK time) and finishes work at 9pm (UK time).

I think it is safe to assume that Jay Ref probably works in either Washington D.C. or in Quantico, Virginia. Both locations are in the Eastern US Time Zone. So Jay Ref probably starts work at 8.00am (EST), has a coffee and a de-brief with his/her supervisor regarding the previous days activity on www.nineeleven.co.uk , along with any other parallel assignments. Posting commences at 9.00am. through 4.00pm; probably allowing an hour before clocking off to write up the required reports.

Jay Ref is probably a College Graduate, recruited through the following program:
www.espionageinfo.com/In-Int/Intelligence-and-Counterespionage-Careers .html

I could continue with the profiling of Jay Ref but I think you probably get the picture.

I can already predict Jay Ref's attempt to deny these observations ... but the bottom line is that you should all be greatly encouraged that the pathetic minions of the genocidal Bush/Cheney administration feel it necessary to devote resources to engaging on this forum.

In reality, if the guys (& gals) performing these BS assignments knew the real truth ...they'd need a change of underwear.

If this summary helps you to decide whether or not to invest your time engaging these pompous pr*cks, I'm glad to have been of service.

The Watcher
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http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=16326#16326
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Looking at this remarkable display once again, I find:

Use of the word "probably" -- 6
Use of the construction "may have" -- 1
Use of the phrase "safe to assume" -- 1
Use of the phrase "bottom line" -- 1
Use of the phrase "in reality" -- 1
Use of the phrase "the real truth" -- 1

Total precision of above usage, based on supporting evidence -- 0

(With apologies for quoting the entire amount of inanity.)
 
Woody- said:
I had to pull this one out from a few pages back.

Asking this question is like asking will the egg break when I drop the bowling ball on it from ten foot up.

The force of the the live load that the top part of the building exerts on the floors is several magnitudes more than they where designed to withstand. It would of been a bloody miracle if they didnt collapse.
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And as I have already said, also a couple of pages back, if it were really that clear-cut, then the possibility of partial collapse of buildings becomes very puzzling. Unless you would like to suggest that no partial collapse has ever occurred, for which reason the possibility is so remote that we don't need to reckon with it.
 
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