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Loose Change - Part IV

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IIRC the US govt only aided afghani natives (IE taliban) against the soviets, not foreigners like (saudi arabian) OBL

of course the taliban could have in turn handed US aid to OBL, but thats beside the point



was anyone complaining during the cold war about us fighting our old (WW2) ally the USSR? the enemy of my enemy is my freind, no?

"If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons."
-Winston Churchill

The Taliban did not fight in the war against the Soviets. They weren't formed until the mid 90s, mostly from Afghan students studying in Pakistani madrassas. Thus the name Taliban, coming from the Arabic word for student, "Talib"
 
Hot Air's got it:



Little Green Footballs says:



These are among the biggest blogs in the country. I don't know, but it's possible that James had something to do with this getting picked up at Hot Air.

Check out some of the comments on those blogs as well; If I were Dylan Avery, I wouldn't want to meet any of the people who've seen this film. To a certain extent we're callous about this stuff because we're used to these dopes making jokes about the passengers. Don't get me wrong, that's the whole reason I agreed when James approached me about doing SLC. But you know how it is; you go nuclear the first time and after that it's just an annoyance. These folks have just gone nuclear.

BTW, these blogs are conservative/Republican oriented, so you may see some negative comments about liberals, because the assumption is that these guys must be liberal. We know better--they're nutbars of various political persuasions. Reynolds seems to be a legit conservative, as does Stephen Jones. Fetzer's clearly a liberal. Alex Jones is probably a libertarian. So it does run the gamut.

Kudos to Markyx and to Gravy, whose "Loose Change Creators Speak" was the source for much of this film. Great job, guys!

It wasn't me, I have been too busy to do an publicity. Allah at Hot Air is a fan of the site though, so he runs stuff all the time. Mark did a great job, it should get plenty of play.
 
Hot Air's got it:



Little Green Footballs says:



These are among the biggest blogs in the country. I don't know, but it's possible that James had something to do with this getting picked up at Hot Air.

Check out some of the comments on those blogs as well; If I were Dylan Avery, I wouldn't want to meet any of the people who've seen this film. To a certain extent we're callous about this stuff because we're used to these dopes making jokes about the passengers. Don't get me wrong, that's the whole reason I agreed when James approached me about doing SLC. But you know how it is; you go nuclear the first time and after that it's just an annoyance. These folks have just gone nuclear.

BTW, these blogs are conservative/Republican oriented, so you may see some negative comments about liberals, because the assumption is that these guys must be liberal. We know better--they're nutbars of various political persuasions. Reynolds seems to be a legit conservative, as does Stephen Jones. Fetzer's clearly a liberal. Alex Jones is probably a libertarian. So it does run the gamut.

Kudos to Markyx and to Gravy, whose "Loose Change Creators Speak" was the source for much of this film. Great job, guys!
theres a few links to the LGF post on digg
http://digg.com/search?s=loose+change+chuckles
 
To be honest, I wish they didn't post so early. Most people are viewing only part 1 and thinking that's the entire movie!
 
It would be nice if someone with an account at Hot Air or LGF would post a link to the LC skeptics Forum. If they think the movie got them mad, let them read a few comments over there.
 
To be honest, I wish they didn't post so early. Most people are viewing only part 1 and thinking that's the entire movie!
Don't worry, the rest will circulate quickly. Part 1 is enough to get people really steamed, anyway.
 
Yeah, about that post:
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=9443&view=findpost&p=6470604
The point I was trying to make (badly, apparently) would have been better stated: "You must think Arabs are a bunch of brown desert monkeys incapable of having their own agenda, who have to be the puppets of the evil white geniuses." (I also get this feeling when people talk about how absurd it is that a group of "Arab cave-dwellers" could have pulled off the 9/11 attacks.)

It was in response to the idea that Islamic terrorism is entirely the brainchild of Western intelligence, and that the radical Muslims involved are mere pawns, victims of the evil [insert favorite group of puppetmasters here] just like the rest of us. The reality, as most of us here recognize, is not nearly so one-sided, and the radical Islamist groups clearly used the West at least as much as the West used them.

I apologize for the use of the phrase.

edit: Would someone kindly post this over in that thread?
Whoever "Cheeseburger Picnic" is, thanks.
 
Yeah, about that post:
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=9443&view=findpost&p=6470604
The point I was trying to make (badly, apparently) would have been better stated: "You must think Arabs are a bunch of brown desert monkeys incapable of having their own agenda, who have to be the puppets of the evil white geniuses." (I also get this feeling when people talk about how absurd it is that a group of "Arab cave-dwellers" could have pulled off the 9/11 attacks.)

I knew what you meant here. Randi made a similar point in "Flim-Flam", where he said people believe aliens built the pyramids because there's no way the brown-skinned natives could have done it.
 
w00t!
Thanks, Mark. This is a really good documentary, folks. It demonstrates exactly why distracting ourselves from the threat of Islamic terrorism (by shifting the blame, for instance) is a perilous game.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6162397493278181614&q=obsession

:( :eek: :eye-poppi :jaw-dropp

That is one powerful documentary...

Kinda scary...:boxedin:

Anyone know where that page on tips for downloading videos is? Was it 911myths or another site? I can't find the page... :(

-Andrew
 
Anyone know where that page on tips for downloading videos is? Was it 911myths or another site? I can't find the page... :(

-Andrew
Marky says it'll be up on Google Video soon. You can download it as one file then.
 
Seems the video link over at Hot Air has been removed. Not sure why. Anyone know. JamesB??
 
Marky says it'll be up on Google Video soon. You can download it as one file then.


No, I mean the page someone made up that tells you *how* to download videos from various formats...I don't know how to download from google...:o

-Andrew
 
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1814764&postcount=80

Is it wrong to feel that a bit of poetic justice is in store for our Mr. Avery? For surely he is up to his neck in something that will follow him for the rest of his days.
Not really. They had plenty of warning. Even issued... what, two corrections to their "documentary?"

Most people wouldn't have been given a second chance. A subject like this, so highly emotionally charged, should have invited caution and (at minimum) ethics in reporting.

Given their crassness on tape, and outbursts like Dylan's LGF tirade, I imagine they wanted it like this. A CT'er's "jihad" mentality, if you will. Well, be careful what you wish for...
 
No, I mean the page someone made up that tells you *how* to download videos from various formats...I don't know how to download from google...:o

-Andrew

Google's easy, there's a drop-down on the right that lets you pick a format and a button that starts the download.

I usually download the version for iPod because that is playable in Quicktime. Not sure what the Mac/Windows format is.
 
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