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flaccon said:
Or.. maybe he hears and see's and knows the difference between reality and a delusion. If I was ever to be regarded as deluded, it would have happened within the 20 years.
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You are regarded as deluded. You just don't recognize it.

Cool story, though.
 
flaccon said:
I have a plan, no choice really. My home isn't safe so I'm on the move. The evil has caught up. As I was trawling youtube (by request) I got the answer as to why my skin ripped open independently a few weeks back. Please check over just a couple of clips "Damaged clouds: Are they real or fake" by "Skywitness" The background radio isn't what it seems, it's not a real advert, it is a mock at my lame idea to have a certain piece of artwork (image of Mother) transferred onto a tee shirt or the likes. At 22 seconds "Welcome home honey, if this mission continues, the Langton's will --?-- their plan" (Can't get the missing word) Then the guy or whoever he is, knocks on my patio window and shouts out at 28 seconds "Thats right Tracey, God can be offended, please come out and die. God damn baby (evil laugh)" I take this very seriously considering I saw what he did to my child and partner (including myself)

The second clip (HAARP hologram in the sky. Weird looking cloud.. by Tudor520055) is about something I've avoided mentioning here, due to knowing what happens to kids. This clip is of 2 innocents chatting together. They swear, speak of the devil, bishops, demons. They use the word patronise, secret, and so on. From the mouth of babes but not from this world "We never listened now the devils unhappy... The bishops - -? I swore the bstrds will never catch us... (@11 secs "All the bishops..") A child roars "Fk off we're not daredevils... Patronise your secret (giggles) At the end (for those with low vol speakers) at 23 seconds "We play with the demons" A spirits instinct amongst the things I've already mentioned, is to save kids/babies/themselves. I have personally saved around 50 clips where names are being called out, and where my Father speaks in his own voice saying his name "Reg Fumpson"

I finally got to speak with an assistant to the bishop the other day. I don't hold much hope out for help, nor do I care anymore.

On a possibly lighter note, I have a friend from school days. She lives in B'ham. We lost contact for 25 years. I confessed to her about this experience and she did not reply to me for a while. I received a message for her "Mandy Mosquito come and try us" and explained to her that they wished to heal her. Of course she thought I'd lost it but she hears her name clear enough. She knows me from old, I'm not easily fooled. Mandy suffers severe peanut allergy and suffers terrible hip/back problems. Mandy is just 5"2 and weighs 16st. She had nothing to lose. 4 weeks later Mandy called me. She had been trying to get hold of me for weeks (I've been away) She said her weight was dropping off her and she was very worried. I asked the usual questions, hair loss/appetite. Her hair was fine and her appetite was good but strange. She'd tried peanuts and her throat did not swell. I couldn't understand why had she even thought of trying peanuts , but she did. She has lost over 4 stone in as many weeks. She's 11st 13 for now. Her bloods are being tested for anything suspicious and my fingers are crossed for her.

I realize now that all this is, is a gift. There are millions who are gifted in similar ways. I have to avoid the evil one, and work out how to use this gift. I'm cluelessas to what shamanism is about but I will certainly be learning.

Thanks for reading. PS, ASKE Paranormal challenge, I'm going to go have a word with them and see what they make of it (thats my plan)
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You might have a gift for conning weak minded individuals. I see no evidence for any other type of gift.
 
flaccon said:
Or.. maybe he hears and see's and knows the difference between reality and a delusion. If I was ever to be regarded as deluded, it would have happened within the 20 years.
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I regard you as self-deluded due to your profound ignorance combined with a frantic need for attention.
 
flaccon said:
I have a plan, no choice really. My home isn't safe so I'm on the move. The evil has caught up. As I was trawling youtube (by request) I got the answer as to why my skin ripped open independently a few weeks back. Please check over just a couple of clips "Damaged clouds: Are they real or fake" by "Skywitness" The background radio isn't what it seems, it's not a real advert, it is a mock at my lame idea to have a certain piece of artwork (image of Mother) transferred onto a tee shirt or the likes. At 22 seconds "Welcome home honey, if this mission continues, the Langton's will --?-- their plan" (Can't get the missing word) Then the guy or whoever he is, knocks on my patio window and shouts out at 28 seconds "Thats right Tracey, God can be offended, please come out and die. God damn baby (evil laugh)" I take this very seriously considering I saw what he did to my child and partner (including myself)

The second clip (HAARP hologram in the sky. Weird looking cloud.. by Tudor520055) is about something I've avoided mentioning here, due to knowing what happens to kids. This clip is of 2 innocents chatting together. They swear, speak of the devil, bishops, demons. They use the word patronise, secret, and so on. From the mouth of babes but not from this world "We never listened now the devils unhappy... The bishops - -? I swore the bstrds will never catch us... (@11 secs "All the bishops..") A child roars "Fk off we're not daredevils... Patronise your secret (giggles) At the end (for those with low vol speakers) at 23 seconds "We play with the demons" A spirits instinct amongst the things I've already mentioned, is to save kids/babies/themselves. I have personally saved around 50 clips where names are being called out, and where my Father speaks in his own voice saying his name "Reg Fumpson"
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Sorry, Tracey, but you're experiencing pareidolia, and nothing else. You hear things about demons and devils because that's what you think about. I listened to the clips you mentioned.

In the first one, instead of what you hear, I hear something along the lines of a couple of DJ's chatting.

1st DJ: Where the vision (?) continues and the legends of rock and roll live on.
2nd DJ: That's right Casey! Rock and roll heaven. Where you don't have to die to... (obscured by knocking sound) ...laugh.

It's doesn't sound like anything but typical DJ banter to me.

Your second video, I couldn't make out anything at all. If I was a parent, I would probably be better at interpreting children's talking, so I'm not the ideal person to be listening.

There is nothing unusual in either video that I can see, except that people are making a big deal about some perfectly normal cloud formations. You are worrying yourself over things that you're hearing that simply aren't there. They are a construct of your brain trying to make out muffled language. Perfectly normal, and nothing that should cause you stress.
 
Flaccon, you are either failing at deliberately trying to fool us, or just fooling yourself, and apparently one or two others who are easily deluded.

In either case, it is all a fantasy, simply playing out only in your mind.

You are wasting your time here.
 
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flaccon, these latest clips are yet more textbook examples of pareidolia. There is no message embedded in them, for you or anyone else. Your brain is doing what brains do - looking for a signal in the noise - and your anxiety is causing you to think you are perceiving a signal where none exists.

I hope there is nothing seriously wrong with your friend, but please try to understand that even if there is it has nothing to do with any words you thought you made out in random recordings. Of course she heard her name, we are predisposed to pick that in particular out of any sounds which contain anything which sounds remotely like it. It doesn't mean there was anyone or anything deliberately saying it.
 
flaccon said:
I have a plan, no choice really. My home isn't safe so I'm on the move. The evil has caught up.
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I just hope you don't move anywhere within a thousand miles from me. In case you're harmless, I won't miss anything, cause you're boring and quite frankly you haven't shown anything to like here. In case you're dangerous though, I'd be much safer. I bet on the second. You are most likely a danger to yourself and society. Get yourself into a facility dealing with mental illnesses as soon as possible. For your sake as well as for those you love.
 
flaccon said:
I have a plan, no choice really. My home isn't safe so I'm on the move. The evil has caught up. As I was trawling youtube (by request) I got the answer as to why my skin ripped open independently a few weeks back. Please check over just a couple of clips "Damaged clouds: Are they real or fake" by "Skywitness" The background radio isn't what it seems, it's not a real advert, it is a mock at my lame idea to have a certain piece of artwork (image of Mother) transferred onto a tee shirt or the likes. At 22 seconds "Welcome home honey, if this mission continues, the Langton's will --?-- their plan" (Can't get the missing word) Then the guy or whoever he is, knocks on my patio window and shouts out at 28 seconds "Thats right Tracey, God can be offended, please come out and die. God damn baby (evil laugh)" I take this very seriously considering I saw what he did to my child and partner (including myself)

The second clip (HAARP hologram in the sky. Weird looking cloud.. by Tudor520055) is about something I've avoided mentioning here, due to knowing what happens to kids. This clip is of 2 innocents chatting together. They swear, speak of the devil, bishops, demons. They use the word patronise, secret, and so on. From the mouth of babes but not from this world "We never listened now the devils unhappy... The bishops - -? I swore the bstrds will never catch us... (@11 secs "All the bishops..") A child roars "Fk off we're not daredevils... Patronise your secret (giggles) At the end (for those with low vol speakers) at 23 seconds "We play with the demons" A spirits instinct amongst the things I've already mentioned, is to save kids/babies/themselves. I have personally saved around 50 clips where names are being called out, and where my Father speaks in his own voice saying his name "Reg Fumpson"

I finally got to speak with an assistant to the bishop the other day. I don't hold much hope out for help, nor do I care anymore.

On a possibly lighter note, I have a friend from school days. She lives in B'ham. We lost contact for 25 years. I confessed to her about this experience and she did not reply to me for a while. I received a message for her "Mandy Mosquito come and try us" and explained to her that they wished to heal her. Of course she thought I'd lost it but she hears her name clear enough. She knows me from old, I'm not easily fooled. Mandy suffers severe peanut allergy and suffers terrible hip/back problems. Mandy is just 5"2 and weighs 16st. She had nothing to lose. 4 weeks later Mandy called me. She had been trying to get hold of me for weeks (I've been away) She said her weight was dropping off her and she was very worried. I asked the usual questions, hair loss/appetite. Her hair was fine and her appetite was good but strange. She'd tried peanuts and her throat did not swell. I couldn't understand why had she even thought of trying peanuts , but she did. She has lost over 4 stone in as many weeks. She's 11st 13 for now. Her bloods are being tested for anything suspicious and my fingers are crossed for her.

I realize now that all this is, is a gift. There are millions who are gifted in similar ways. I have to avoid the evil one, and work out how to use this gift. I'm cluelessas to what shamanism is about but I will certainly be learning.

Thanks for reading. PS, ASKE Paranormal challenge, I'm going to go have a word with them and see what they make of it (thats my plan)
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Print this out and show it to your doctor.
 
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Empress said:
1st DJ: Where the vision (?) continues and the legends of rock and roll live on.
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I think it's "Where the tradition continues," not "vision." But otherwise, that's the same thing I heard.

Also, he precedes that statement with the phrase "Rock and roll heaven." It's interesting that both DJs say that phrase, but Tracey interprets the first occurrence as "Welcome home honey," and the second as "God can be offended."

Tracey, I'm unclear as to what exactly you're claiming about this DJ chatter. Are you claiming that the DJs are actually saying the words you wrote ("Welcome home honey," etc.), and that Empress and I are misunderstanding them? Or are you claiming that they're saying words that superficially sound like what we hear ("Rock and roll heaven," etc.), but that those words also somehow contain the message you transcribed, in some sort of encoded form?

Either way, I suggest including your answer with the information you give your doctor along with the printout of your earlier post.
 
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AdMan said:
Print this out and show it to your doctor.
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flaccon, this is very good advice, the best you will get.

To be blunt, if you don't print that post out and show it to your doctor I will take it as a sign that you are simply an attention-seeking fantasist who is pulling our leg.
 
Quinn said:
I think it's "Where the tradition continues," not "vision." But otherwise, that's the same thing I heard.

Also, he precedes that statement with the phrase "Rock and roll heaven." It's interesting that both DJs say that phrase, but Tracey interprets the first occurrence as "Welcome home honey," and the second as "God can be offended."

Tracey, I'm unclear as to what exactly you're claiming about this DJ chatter. Are you claiming that the DJs are actually saying the words you wrote ("Welcome home honey," etc.), and that Empress and I are misunderstanding them? Or are you claiming that they're saying words that superficially sound like what we hear ("Rock and roll heaven," etc.), but that those words also somehow contain the message you transcribed, in some sort of encoded form?

Either way, I suggest including your answer with the information you give your doctor along with the printout of your earlier post.
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Yeah, at 22 seconds the first voice says: "Rock and roll heaven, where the tradition continues and the legends of rock and roll live on." Then another voice: "That's right Casey, rock and roll heaven where you don't have to..." The next bit's obscured by tapping noises.

He definitely says "Casey" and not "Tracey", but I have no doubt that's what made flaccon prick up her ears.

A quick google tells me it's an advert for this Orlando record store: http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz/rock-and-roll-heaven-orlando

The partially audible address and phone number he reads out at 0:09 and 0:18 are a perfect match.
 
It's good that we now have a very clear and incontrovertible example of flaccon misinterpreting the sounds she's hearing on a recording as words which were never spoken by anyone, let alone by disembodied spirits. Let's hope that this time she will finally grasp what we have been trying to explain to her since she started this thread.
 
Please, if I was vying for attention, I'd of gone to the papers ages ago, I've been trying the private route for 7 months before joining this site. If you believe I am now playing to a different audience, I am not. Yes I am now a danger to society, due to being harassed by someone I can't see. It can attach to others, it destroyed my brother's life 14 years ago. I am not a danger to anyone personally, I couldn't harm a fly. Their guiding's are immaculate, and they are no danger to me or anyone else.

I still continue to keep the GP is updated once a month. I showed him the acid-like splash to my skin and he is aware of any moves I'm making, including my reclusion.

Recently I received a clear message from my Father, again in is own voce. I understand it is believed to be paredolia, including the artwork, but I have to look at it differently. It's my Fathers voice, and images of my family et al.

I don't mind not logging in and filling your minds with these updates.

My granddaughter is now going through what my own daughter went through as a child. I am not the one who needs the help now. Whatever attacked me and knocks on my patio window I am safe from. It can only attack externally, not internally, this means I stay healed, and after 14 years of agony, I'm sill thrilled that I don't suffer any more internal pain/intolerances.

I did not come here to be exciting, so yes whoever claims I'm boring is probably correct. I don't mean to be, I'm just trying to get the job done.
 
flaccon said:
I understand it is believed to be paredolia, including the artwork, but I have to look at it differently.
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No, you really don't. If you want to understand what's really going on, you have to look at it objectively.

What's your reaction to the incontrovertible proof described in the last few posts that at least one of your examples of spirit voices communicating with you is, indeed, pareidolia?

I don't mind not logging in and filling your minds with these updates.
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As this seems to be the only place people are prepared to challenge your delusions instead of tolerating or enabling them, I think it would be to your benefit to continue to post here. I really hope that one day you will be able to get enough emotional distance from your experiences to be able to see them for what they really are.
 
flaccon said:
My granddaughter is now going through what my own daughter went through as a child.
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I am alarmed to think that you might have harmed two generations of your own family by filling their impressionable heads with your nonsense ideas.

The voices are not real.

Go to your doctor.

Don't inflict your delusions on children.
 
flaccon said:
I have a plan, no choice really. My home isn't safe so I'm on the move. The evil has caught up...
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flaccon said:
Their guiding's are immaculate, and they are no danger to me or anyone else.
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My granddaughter is now going through what my own daughter went through as a child. I am not the one who needs the help now. Whatever attacked me and knocks on my patio window I am safe from. It can only attack externally, not internally, this means I stay healed, and after 14 years of agony, I'm sill thrilled that I don't suffer any more internal pain/intolerances.
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I'm struggling to make any sense of this at all. First you say you're not safe, then you're perfectly safe. You're either talking in riddles, or (my guess) this inconsistency reflects the confusion in your mind. You've been flip-flopping about these spirits and whether they're good or evil throughout this thread. Maybe this is because you're not good at explaining, or maybe it's because you're always changing your mind with no clear pattern, but it's not going to help you to sort this out.

As everyone said, take that post and show it to your doctor. Send a copy to the bishop as well, if you think it will help. I don't know what you want from us, but the evidence of this thread makes it pretty clear that we can't help.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Yeah, at 22 seconds the first voice says: "Rock and roll heaven, where the tradition continues and the legends of rock and roll live on." Then another voice: "That's right Casey, rock and roll heaven where you don't have to..." The next bit's obscured by tapping noises.

He definitely says "Casey" and not "Tracey", but I have no doubt that's what made flaccon prick up her ears.

A quick google tells me it's an advert for this Orlando record store: http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz/rock-and-roll-heaven-orlando

The partially audible address and phone number he reads out at 0:09 and 0:18 are a perfect match.
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flaccon, I hope this above post helps you to see you've a need for professional guidance.


Recovering Agnostic said:
I'm struggling to make any sense of this at all. First you say you're not safe, then you're perfectly safe. You're either talking in riddles, or (my guess) this inconsistency reflects the confusion in your mind. You've been flip-flopping about these spirits and whether they're good or evil throughout this thread. Maybe this is because you're not good at explaining, or maybe it's because you're always changing your mind with no clear pattern, but it's not going to help you to sort this out.

As everyone said, take that post and show it to your doctor. Send a copy to the bishop as well, if you think it will help. I don't know what you want from us, but the evidence of this thread makes it pretty clear that we can't help.
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I thoroughly agree with the hilited bit.
All the best, flaccon.
 
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