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flaccon said:
Correction, the Church as everything to do with this. It's more their business than it is mine. Despite RIP being a big fib that cost me £8.000, it was actually the Church that gave me this protection in the first place.
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Could you explain what you mean here?


Jack by the hedge said:
...Say, Abbadon, I have an experiment for you to try with your remaining free trial period of Youcam: What happens if you make a new recording while playing a previous recording in windows media player? Can you select the computer's audio output as your audio source, so that your new video gets the sound from your old video?

Just a thought.
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Abaddon, would you be willing to take the time to try that?



abaddon said:
No. We are not. I consider the Youcam crapola to simply be a target of opportunity. By happenstance it could have been any other bundled software which drew the short straw. ...

...And that is problematic right away. Not only are you introducing Catholic angst, but the nub gets ignored. What nub, you may ask? Well that is likely personal to me, but, I suspect, common to others.
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Sorry not to be clear, abaddon.
I hadn't the intention to imply Youcam was anything other than a target of opportunity. It seemed interesting to define as clearly as possible how the noises are made.

I don't quite understand how I'm introducing Catholic angst.
What's Catholic angst and how did I introduce it?
 
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trustbutverify said:
I allow for the astronomically remote possibility that you've experienced supernatural phenomena.

Do you allow for the exceedingly remote possibility that you haven't?
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Sorry but what has been witnessed over the 20 years, has no logical explanation. I don't hear and see things and auto think "paranormal" I used to try searching for logic, but there just isn't any logic left to lean on.
 
Orphia Nay said:
You don't intentionally lie.

But you do ignore or confuse the issues at times, to protect your thrilling addiction to the paranormal.

A recent example:








No reply to that.

Admit it. You do tell your friends what you've heard, in order to get them to listen to the recordings for themselves. You tell scrappy, you told your sisters and brother, you told Mrs S and Mr Bulger.

Please admit that you do this. You know you do it (that's why you're not answering). Otherwise the accusations will just get worse, I'm afraid.
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=9352358#post9352358

Flaccon? We're waiting.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Who informed you that "recordings become distorted/lose quality after uploading"?

In any event, why don't you at least try to let everyone hear your most impressive spirit recordings?
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Most impressive? I'm not here to impress anyone smart boy. Mr Roberts informed me and Alderbank informed me.

Do you seriously believe I am after this sort of attention without good reason? I have far better ways than this for attracting attention, for real.
 
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flaccon said:
I was informed that recordings become distorted/lose quality after uploading, ...
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This post documents scrappy's attribution to Alderbank and the posts it must have been based on.
You were explained why you misunderstood Alderbank's posts.

In this context, your files will change only if you yourself manually compress them before upload (not after upload) to be able to upload them to this site.
The uploading doesn't do anything to you file.

It was already explained to you, and consequently ignored by you ....
Would you mind if I asked you to be transparent and simply provide that recording with the clear circus reference and leave all the excuses aside?
That would be just lovely, thank you.
 
flaccon said:
Sorry but what has been witnessed over the 20 years, has no logical explanation. I don't hear and see things and auto think "paranormal" I used to try searching for logic, but there just isn't any logic left to lean on.
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You appear mostly a very troubled person. Perhaps due to circumstances, perhaps not ....
 
flaccon said:
Sorry but what has been witnessed over the 20 years, has no logical explanation.
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The fact that you personally can't think of a logical explanation doesn't mean there isn't one. For example you'd never heard of pareidolia before you started posting here.

I don't hear and see things and auto think "paranormal" I used to try searching for logic, but there just isn't any logic left to lean on.
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Lots of people come here with anecdotes they can't explain and therefore consider evidence of the paranormal. Sometimes there's enough information for a plausible explanation to be offered and sometimes there isn't, but one thing there never is is credible evidence of the paranormal.
 
Pixel42 said:
You've not said much about this previous encounter with the church but it sounds to me like you encountered the sort of compassionate priest your doctor was hoping you'd find again when he wrote that letter for you - someone who would ignore the church's official position on such things in order to help out a fellow human being in distress.

Can you bring yourself to consider the possibility that this priest, recognising that he would not be able to persuade you of the non-existence of the malevolent supernatural forces you believed to be plaguing you and your family, invented a benevolent one for you to believe in? Doctors do something similar when they send someone with psychosomatic symptoms to a homeopath or similar - they know homeopathy doesn't really work, but when an illness is all in the mind then a cure which is also all in the mind may be what's required. Likewise an imaginary benevolent spirit may be what's needed to help someone who is imagining malevolent ones.
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I did mention that I will ask my GP if he is indeed using some sort of mental placebo effect, but seriously, my GP wiped the floor with me by re-enacting and explaining the scenario's I will be up against. There really is no mental placebo effect gong on. I searched for Father K, 8 months ago but was informed he's passed away a long time ago, otherwise I would have asked him outright also.

Judging by Rev'd B and Bishop P, I don't believe a member of the church would use a placebo effect? If they do they are very wrong to do so.
 
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Pixel42 said:
The fact that you personally can't think of a logical explanation doesn't mean there isn't one. For example you'd never heard of pareidolia before you started posting here.


Lots of people come here with anecdotes they can't explain and therefore consider evidence of the paranormal. Sometimes there's enough information for a plausible explanation to be offered and sometimes there isn't, but one thing there never is is credible evidence of the paranormal.
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Yes I'd heard of Paredolia, we chatted about it (the GP and I) we just didn't know what it was called. Yes, even the GP did not know the correct word to use.
 
flaccon said:
I did mention that I will ask my GP if he is indeed using some sort of mental placebo effect, but seriously, my GP wiped the floor with me by re-enacting and explaining the scenario's I will be up against.
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Do you mean he explained to you how difficult it would be to produce evidence that what you were experiencing was paranormal? That's exactly what I would expect him to do. Perhaps you should ask him to tell you honestly if he shares your conviction that what you are experiencing is paranormal.

I searched for Father K, 8 months ago but was informed he's passed away a long time ago, otherwise I would have asked him outright also.
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I'm sorry to hear that, he sounds like a decent man.
 
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flaccon said:
Judging by Rev'd B and Bishop P, I don't believe a member of the church would use a placebo effect? If they do they are very wrong to do so.
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It's ethically dubious, as it is when a doctor prescribes what he knows perfectly well is a placebo for a patient with psychosomatic symptoms, but I can certainly see circumstances where it would rightly be considered the kind thing to do.
 
Pixel42 said:
Do you mean he explained to you how difficult it would be to produce evidence that what you were experiencing was paranormal? That's exactly what I would expect him to do. Perhaps you should ask him to tell you honestly he shares your conviction that what you are experiencing is paranormal.


I'm sorry to hear that, he sounds like a decent man.
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How difficult it would be to produce the flimsy evidence I had at that point, but the evidence is growing, slowly but surely. I will ask that, and will guess his reply to be "I am just a GP, I have no idea of the supernatural" This would hardly be an answer, but I'm only guessing.

Yes I was real sorry to hear of Father K too, he was on the case for a couple of months.
 
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