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Well, given that the file remained on his computer the whole time and it's safe to assume nobody (nothing?) had access, the unchanged MD5 means it's a very safe bet that the file is the same bit-by-bit, which of course means its sound and waveform are too.
Flaccon please fill in the form found on post 3205 unless you want the offline copy of it on 3209 so we know what your claim is. This is very important so we know what your claim is and how you're going to rule out hallucinations and pareodolia.
ETA: Deleted file from 3209 as we don't need it as the two sound files supplied are identical. You can use the one in post 3205 if you have any new claims you want to test.
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jsfisher
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Wrong two files. Try VolumeNormInt.WAV and VolumeNormInt post Spirits.WAV.
jsfisher
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Just let me staple the vicar, nothing has changed in the files. Pareidolia, confirmation bias, and the powers of suggestion are all in play, but the files are unchanged.
Do we need to bother with the protocol then as the two files are identical.
I've looked at it's waveform in Audacity and merged the two tracks - they are identical.
Power of suggestion at work here. We can now say with certainty that the voices are not real.
Alderbank
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Yes, that is true if nothing paranormal is going on.
One of the claims made (it might not be a current claim) is that when a file is played back it has acquired additional vocal content either within the file itself or heard concurrently while the file plays, yet file hash is unchanged.
If you go to: https://www.box.com/alderbank and click on the blue comment box beside VolumeUpInt.wav Alderbank has posted the time and what flaccon is supposed to have heard. The silence at 00:21 does not exist - in fact the background hiss gets louder temporarily. There is no "robin" at 00:38 that I can hear of and I have the volume all the way up.
tsig
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Some skeptics can do humor and some no can do, those that do often get in do do.
If you select ctrl and A and then ctrl and c you'll copy what you've written so you don't lose it. Maybe you could also write it in Notepad or some other text editor so it's not lost and just copy it over using select all, copy and paste. That'd save you a lot of frustration.
It's auditory hallucinations that we're discussing.
jsfisher
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The note with the VolumeUpInt.WAV file is mine. It reflects the confusion over which file had the silence and the word, "Robin". It really should apply to the VolumeNormInt.WAV file, where the level does change around 21 seconds in, and then there are a variety of glitches as the recording continues. (No "Robin" that I can hear, though.)
Alderbank
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If you look at the bigger picture we (that is, jsfisher and flaccon) have achieved much more than that. Everyone has worked together in harmony to produce a solid piece of evidence to build on. Elimination is positive evidence in the journey towards finding the answers
Didn't somebody famous once say 'when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?
Yeah it's Holmes to Watson in The Sign of The Four (I think - ah well it's a good excuse to read some Holmes tonight in bed!).
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Alderbank
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Wow, that was quick! You obviously don't get out enough!
If you click "go advanced" when writing a post and press the paperclip at the top menu bar beside the smilies and text colour it'll let you upload. Then click "browse" and locate the file. Then press upload and then close window.
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