Lockerbie: London Origin Theory

Has the possible re-arrangement of luggage at K-16 (Heathrow) been investigated? The reason I mention this is because;

"The container was put aside and later Bedford drove the container to a site known as K-16 where luggage from flight PA103A could fill up the container. Bedford finished work at five p.m thirty minutes before flight PA103A touched down. Luggage had been loaded loose and was unloaded onto a “rocket” and approximately 39 further bags were placed in container AVE4041."1
So, let's say for the purposes of this paragraph the Bedford bags were not bomb carrying. What is to say a maroon hard shell Samsonite was introduced at Frankfurt, and placed into position LATER in the process, to ensure certainty of position. After all, why go through the steps to perfectly place the bomb bag in the interline area, only to have baggage rearranged at the last second at K-16? Why would things be left to chance at this last, most crucial stage- namely- the introduction of the bags from Frankfurt at K-16? Why wouldn't bags already in AVE4041 be moved during this process?
Now, I've never been a baggage loader, but, if I'm loading bags in a hurry, I might be inclined to shove those at the front deeper into the container as I load to avoid climbing over bags when I don't have to. That would require further effort, and would hardly be efficient use of loading time.

So, the order of events could support introduction of the bag at Frankfurt, with a co-opted Heathrow Pan-Am baggage handler on a specific look-out for the bomb bag off of 103A, to place it perfectly at the last stage of the baggage loading process- namely the loading of the packed AVE4041. Bedford had gone home, and the co-opted Pan-Am baggage handler is never even investigated.

Unless there was some detailed investigation of all baggage handlers on duty at Heathrow that evening. I'm wondering, if AVE4041 was being loaded, a baggage handler approached the container with the bomb bag in hand, who had grabbed it as it came off of 103A and said "this fell off the conveyor" or something similar, and placed it at the very last second in the preferred spot. Why not?

So, could the case be made to have the introduction of the bag in Frankfurt, with management for location in AVE4041 at Heathrow?

1. http://e-zeecon.blogspot.com/2008/11/lockerbie-heathrow-evidence.html
 
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kenspeckled - I want to use that word so bad I don't even care what it means. :)

Rolfe, interesting rundown of the wrong plane possibilities. Clearly side-notes, but interesting. (I do like to play with those sometimes)

Snidely, thanks for being like fiber and making slowed threads move again. I'm simply kenspeckled about it!

....snip.

But suddenly it's hitting me that I don't fully believe Bedford's story after all. I think he knows of these bags but there's an outside chance he concocted the "Camjob did it" story to cover for something else a little after that, perhaps in collusion with Peter Walker.

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I haven't yet read the trial transcripts, relying on Clare Connelly and her LTBU daily synopsis, but, Walker was the Pan-Am baggage supervisor. Was he on duty the night 103 took off? The reason I ask is that what standard operating guidelines are followed when things need to be done 10 minutes ago? He could sit in court and testify that's how things were supposed to be done, but were they done the way he believes they were that exact evening?

I can well understand your desire to use 'kenspeckled' in any sentence. I think I'd like to see you nominated for the pith, just to see the word again, and have everyone crinkle up their nose when they read it.
 
Point of information. "Kenspeckled" isn't a word. "Kenspeckle" is an adjective meaning standing out from the crowd, easily recognisable, eccentric.

Rolfe.
 
Anyone here ever heard of a James Shaughnessy? He is (or was) an Americam lawyer, and a partner of the Manhattan law firm Windels, Marx, Davies and Ives at that time.

The reason I bring up his name is that back in 2000, he was involved in certain claims which are directly involved in this thread.

Can anyone tell me what is known about him?


I thought his involvement was way before that, I didn't realise he'd surfaced in this context since about 1994.

He was Pan Am's lawyer in their defence of the civil action for damages which they lost in 1993 or 1994. Coleman has a lot to say about this aspect of the affair, principally that Shaughnessy was subjected to quite appalling pressure not to support his client in this case. I found this in chapter 14 of Trail of the Octopus.

Now I think Lester Coleman has seriously got the wrong end of the stick in a number of respects. I think he's wrong about Jafaar, which almost certainly means that his entire conspiracy theory about him being persecuted because he "knows the truth about Lockerbie" is wrong. However, he's studied the case in a lot of detail and most of the facts he presents seem to be accurate. He's an especially useful resource since he's writing in the early 1990s, at the time of the Pan Am hearings, so he has a lot of detail about these. Nowadays, we're all so fixated on what happened at Camp Zeist in 2000, and the SCCRC findings, that we tend to forget all the earlier evidence - which included witness testimony not heard at Camp Zeist.

The other stuff I've found on the internet about the Pan Am hearings tends to corroborate Coleman's account, so it has to be taken seriously. Some of what he describes is absolutely breathtaking attempts to intimidate and silence Shaughnessy.

More specifically, the government sought to punish Shaughnessy for:
(1) Pan Am's initial subpoenas to the intelligence, military and law enforcement agencies which were based upon the false allegations in the Aviv Report;
(2) the filing of the third-party complaint which was based upon those same false allegations and the equally false allegations directed against the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA);
(3) the opposition to the motion of the United States to dismiss the third-party complaint which was based upon further false representations that the Pan Am litigants possessed a basis for the claims in the third-party complaint;
(4) the post-filing discovery requests directed at the intelligence, military and law-enforcement agencies for classified and privileged information which is completely protected by statute and under existing precedent, as to which no legitimate argument for change could reasonably be made;
(5) the submission of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests to various agencies which were identical to Pan Am's civil discovery requests, and
(6) the continuous opposition to all reasonable attempts to terminate the litigation activity against the United States which was based upon the false allegations which were repeatedly reasserted without any evidence to support them.
Taken at face value, the motion seemed to argue that nobody, not even in his own defence in a court of law, was entitled to question the government's good faith, its conduct, the truth of its assertions or its judgment in deciding matters of fact. It also seemed to insist that its files were sacrosanct, that they were not open to inspection even in matters as grave as determining who was responsible for the mass murder of 270 innocent people. Even the use of FOIA requests in this context was deemed an underhanded and therefore sanctionable act.


I don't know of any other case where a government has attempted to indict a lawyer or a law firm for putting his client's case, or for attempting to secure evidence in support of that case.

I didn't know Shaughnessy had surfaced in relation to Lockerbie after Pan Am went bankrupt though. Can you point me at the citation?

Rolfe.
 
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Has the possible re-arrangement of luggage at K-16 (Heathrow) been investigated? The reason I mention this is because;

"The container was put aside and later Bedford drove the container to a site known as K-16 where luggage from flight PA103A could fill up the container. Bedford finished work at five p.m thirty minutes before flight PA103A touched down. Luggage had been loaded loose and was unloaded onto a “rocket” and approximately 39 further bags were placed in container AVE4041."1
So, let's say for the purposes of this paragraph the Bedford bags were not bomb carrying. What is to say a maroon hard shell Samsonite was introduced at Frankfurt, and placed into position LATER in the process, to ensure certainty of position. After all, why go through the steps to perfectly place the bomb bag in the interline area, only to have baggage rearranged at the last second at K-16? Why would things be left to chance at this last, most crucial stage- namely- the introduction of the bags from Frankfurt at K-16? Why wouldn't bags already in AVE4041 be moved during this process?
Now, I've never been a baggage loader, but, if I'm loading bags in a hurry, I might be inclined to shove those at the front deeper into the container as I load to avoid climbing over bags when I don't have to. That would require further effort, and would hardly be efficient use of loading time.

So, the order of events could support introduction of the bag at Frankfurt, with a co-opted Heathrow Pan-Am baggage handler on a specific look-out for the bomb bag off of 103A, to place it perfectly at the last stage of the baggage loading process- namely the loading of the packed AVE4041. Bedford had gone home, and the co-opted Pan-Am baggage handler is never even investigated.

Unless there was some detailed investigation of all baggage handlers on duty at Heathrow that evening. I'm wondering, if AVE4041 was being loaded, a baggage handler approached the container with the bomb bag in hand, who had grabbed it as it came off of 103A and said "this fell off the conveyor" or something similar, and placed it at the very last second in the preferred spot. Why not?

So, could the case be made to have the introduction of the bag in Frankfurt, with management for location in AVE4041 at Heathrow?

1. http://e-zeecon.blogspot.com/2008/11/lockerbie-heathrow-evidence.html


Mmmm, Baz. By the standards of some of the people who post regularly on Robert Black's blog (Charles, Patrick, Edwin Bollier), he's in the "less mad" category. He's still not in my top ten of reilable commentators though. I've read that page a number of times and not got a great deal out of it. (Though I may have made a new connection, we'll see.) It's mainly just a standard presentation of the Bedford suitcase theory. (Baz thinks it was brought into England by surface transport, on the Stockholm ferry. He's also convinced Francovich is a deliberate liar/hoaxer, and I've heard him declare that Gannon wasn't actually on the plane.)

Regarding the bag placement, there's a question the explosives experts never answered, and which I think is central to figuring out the nature of the plot. If we assume the amount of Semtex was about 400 to 600g, how crucial was the positioning, really?

We accept that the bag was indeed in the worst possible place. However, how important was it that it must be in precisely that place? The baggage containers are all close to the skin of the aircraft, and they're not that big. None of the bags is an especially long way away. If the bag had been a bit less optimally placed, what are the chances it might have caused the disaster anyway?

This is important, because it has a bearing on how much effort the terrorists would have needed to put into positioning the bag. If there was a fair chance that anywhere in the container would still have blown out the skin of the plane, maybe it really was just chance that the bag ended up in the worst possible place. On the other hand, if an explosion further into the container would most probably not have fatally damaged the aircraft, and assuming the terrorists realised this, then we can reasonably assume some contingency plan to get the positioning right.

If the positioning was absolutely crucial, then you're right, the last place where the bags could be positioned was out on the tarmac while the Frankfurt luggage was being transferred. I've thought about this one quite a lot, and while I can imagine one of the tarmac loaders being able to make sure the Bedford suitcase stayed in its critical position or very close to it, being able to position something coming off PA103A seems to me to be a lot more problematic.

Think about it. The bag can't be placed at the very last second, because the critical place is near the bottom of the stack. If it wasn't on the floor of the container, it was the second layer up. If it wasn't one of the bags already in the container when it was wheeled out on to the tarmac, it must have been among the first few to have come off the "rocket" conveyor. So how are you going to arrange this? Is your agent with the container on the tarmac, ready to position the bag in the right place? If so, what does he do if it's one of the last ones to come off? He can hardly burrow down seven or eight layers of suitcases to put it near the bottom. Or is your agent on the Frankfurt plane, loading the bags on to the rocket? He might be able to grab the right one and make sure it goes off early - but then what? He can't influence where it's placed, unless you're going to postulate two terrorist agents in this one work crew.

I think these people were investigated, but I wouldn't like to say how closely. I just think the logistics don't work. This would be one hell of a conspiracy, not just to have got the bag on board at Frankfurt, circumventing Maier and his x-ray machine, but to have a team of at least two Heathrow baggage handlers who can be certain of positioning themselves in exactly the right places to get that case in position in AVE4041. To me, it just doesn't fly.

However, there's something been niggling me for a while about what Baz says in that article.

Bedford placed four or five suitcases, upright on their spines to the back of the luggage container then left the area to speak with his supervisor [for a tea break? - R]. When he returned he found that somebody had placed two further suitcases flat in front of this row of suitcases. The one on the left was a brown or maroon hard-sided Samsonite. [....]

The Larnaca Interline passengers included four US Government officials. Three, CIA officer Matthew Gannon, Army Major Charles “Tiny” McKee and Ron LaRiviere a Security Official, had travelled from the Lebanon, and the fourth, Daniel O’Connor, was a State Department official posted to the US Embassy in Nicosia.

The luggage of these four men was recovered. There was evidence that one of McKee’s suitcases had been tampered with. None had a bronze or maroon hardsided Samsonite (McKee’s had two grey suitcases one a Samsonite, Gannon’s Samsonite was blue and soft-sided.) Curiously O’Connor’s two bags were never loaded onto PA103 but after the bombing was found in a baggage room at Heathrow.


It sounds from this as if most if not all of the bags Bedford placed himself belonged to the CIA operatives who flew in from Larnaca. McKee, two cases. Gannon, one case. LaRiviere, Baz doesn't say. That's conceivably "four or five cases".

Then there's O'Connor's luggage, which should have been there but was left behind. Two cases. Never made it, went into a baggage store. Instead, the two mysterious "Bedford suitcases" appeared in the container. Never discovered who these belonged to or what happened to them.

It's odd that two suitcases that should have been in that container, weren't, and two suspect cases with no known provenance, were. Could there have been some sort of substitution of O'Connor's luggage? I'd dearly love to know whether the proper PA103 tags were still on O'Connor's cases when they were found in that baggage store....

Assuming Baz is right about these details, that is. I don't know where he got them from.

Rolfe.
 
I've spent some time reading through Day 43 of the Zeist transcripts, and a number of notable points was gleaned.

Mr Walker, supervisor of the Baggage Build-Up shed of Heathrow's terminal 3, and dealing with specifically the baggage for 103, was who Bedford went to see during his break of about 20mins at about 3pm on the afternoon of the 21st.

Bedford, being the supervisor for the Interline Baggage shed, and this being a permanant position (unlike some other Pan Am baggage workers who could be moved from position to position as required) was well known and had worked in this capacity for 'many years'.

Bedford is due to finish at 5pm on that day. He actually finishes at approx 5.15, before 103A lands from Frankfurt, but had supervised the loading of the container 4041 at the interline shed during that day.

Now, curiously, Walker gave a statement to the police on the 10th Jan '89, stating that Bedford had, as stated, came into the baggage build-up shed at 3pm for a tea break, but on Bedford finishing his shift, did notmention, or bring, container AVE4041 to the build-up shed to be filled with the bags from Frankfurt that were tagged for 103.

However, at the FAA, Walker told the inquiry that Bedford had indeed brought container 4041 from the interline shed where he and Kamboj (the x-rayer) had loaded it with 5-8 bags approx.

This raised a problem as Walker revealed that if a container were brought to the baggage build-up area from the interline shed, it would not be brought actually inside the shed, but left, unattended, on the build up ramp outside the shed. Of greater concern, the container whilst on the ramp, would not be in view of those working in the build up area.

The baggage build-up ramp was situated adjacent to a works access road which was often used by many workers and staff "taking a short-cut" back to landside. Is this part of the same "short-cut" that Manly refers to in his statement about the security doors that were breached?

At Zeist, Walker's story reverts back to his initial statement that he can not recall Bedford, on finishing his shift, requesting or bringing AVE4041 from the interline shed to the baggage build up area due to the space still available in the conatiner for bags coming from 103A.

He is otherwise inferring that the container was taken directly from the Interline shed straight to 103a where its containers where unloaded and the known 'tin' opened and 4041 loaded with the appropriate luggage. It's then taken the short distance across to 103 and placed into its position.

The bags anticipated on the 103A flight, joining 103 to New York, were also expected to be contained in one specific baggage container so as to presumably allow a speedy and straightforward swap from one aircraft to the other given that 103A was Pan Am's main feeder for the transatlantic flight.

103A parked up at Gate 16 at 17.37, with 103 parked at gate 14 and pushing off at about 18.02.


Testimony of Alan Berwick at Camp Zeist, Manager of corporate security for Pan Am along with Mike Jones.

1 MR. TURNBULL: Witness number 878, please,

2 My Lords, Alan Berwick.

3 THE MACER: Number 878 on the Crown roll,

4 Your Lordship, Alan James Berwick.

5 WITNESS: ALAN JAMES BERWICK, sworn

6 LORD SUTHERLAND: Advocate Depute.

7 EXAMINATION IN CHIEF BY MR. TURNBULL:

8 Q Are you Alan James Berwick?

9 A I am indeed so, yes.

10 Q And where do you live, Mr. Berwick?

11 A xxxxxx x xxxxx, Hampshire.

12 Q What age are you, please?

13 A 64.

14 Q Do you presently work with the Defence

15 Evaluation and Research Agency?

16 A No, sir. I retired from that employment

17 on the 22nd of December last.

18 Q At the date of your retirement, were you

19 a security adviser with that agency?

20 A I was, sir, yes.

21 Q In December of 1988, did you work for

22 Pan Am?

23 A I did, sir.

24 Q What position did you hold at that time?

25 A 1988, I was manager, corporate security.



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1 Q What was your geographical area of

2 responsibility?

3 A Basically Middle East, India, Pakistan,

4 and occasionally to the U.S. And reporting to New York

5 headquarters.

6 Q Where were you based?

7 A At Heathrow, London.

8 Q I see. And did Heathrow Airport come

9 within your responsibility?

10 A It was within my area, yes, sir.

11 Q And we understand, of course, that

12 Pan Am had stations, as they were called, in other

13 areas of Europe; in particular of interest is

14 Frankfurt. Did Frankfurt come within the area of your

15 responsibility?

16 A It did so, yes.

17 Q Did you have a colleague who worked in

18 Frankfurt called Martin Huebner?

19 A Yes, sir.

20 Q And did he report to you?

21 A Reported to me on a local basis, but

22 also was on occasions kind of dealing with headquarters

23 direct, depending on their needs.

24 Q I see. In the hierarchy, was he a

25 colleague who was your subordinate, or your superior?


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1 A In actual grade, I was the senior one.

2 Q Thank you.


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5 Q Yes. And did you consider at that time

6 that training was not as good as it might be for such

7 employees?

8 A No, the training was fine. It was

9 probably at that particular time more a question of

10 turnover of personnel.

11 Q So does that mean that the employees

12 tended to be of short duration?

13 A There was a fairly high turnover at that

14 time.

15 Q Was that in relation to poor pay and

16 conditions, one factor?

17 A That would have been one of the reasons.

18 Q Was the case, though, Mr. Berwick, that

19 such training as was afforded to those employees

20 charged with operating the x-ray machine was of a

21 pretty limited nature?

22 A It depended on the individual. If the

23 person was very, very professional, they could read the

24 screen very effectively. They had good training, they

25 knew what to look for. Somebody not quite so

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1 experienced would not be as good.

2 Q Was this work undertaken by a company

3 called Alert Security?

4 A They -- Alert were tasked with that

5 duty, and I can't remember the specific dates when they

6 took over.

7 Q I think that was a company which was

8 effectively owned by Pan Am, but it operated that

9 aspect of the security operation; is that correct?

10 A Alert Management Services was an

11 affiliate company, yes.

12 Q And would it be fair to say that in the

13 aftermath of this disaster, certain inquiries were made

14 into the efficacy or otherwise of Alert Security?

15 A Not that I was aware of, sir. It just

16 heightened the whole of the security industry, as far

17 as passenger screening was concerned.


18 Q Were you not aware of inquiries

19 undertaken by FAA?

20 A That was -- yes, I am aware of those.

21 Q And were you not aware of their findings

22 in relation to the shortcomings applicable to Alert

23 Security?

24 A They were issued with certain

25 violations, a number of violations, that is correct.


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1 Q And was it not also discovered during

2 those inquiries that training of Alert employees was

3 extremely limited?

4 A That was not necessarily the case, in my

5 opinion, and in what I saw.

6 Q Was it not also discovered that most

7 employees had been employed only for a very short time,

8 indeed, prior to the date of the disaster?

9 A I cannot recall the date that Alert

10 became operative, but they had not been there that

11 long. The exact date, I cannot recall.

12 Q Would it surprise you to hear that their

13 inquiries revealed that x-ray -- training on the x-ray

14 machine initially consisted of one half-hour's

15 training?

16 A That would surprise me.

17 Q Would it surprise you to hear that it

18 was also discovered that that was supplemented by one

19 half-hour on-job training with a trained operator?

20 A I know there was on-the-job training,

21 kind of was part of the training package for a period

22 of time, but how long that went on, I can't recall.

23 Q Did you appreciate that no training was

24 provided in relation to identification of explosives?

25 A I wasn't aware of that, sir.

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1 Q After the disaster, do I take it that a

2 lot of changes to the security system, if I can put it

3 as broadly as that, were made?

4 A Yes, both from -- as far as the U.K. was

5 concerned, from the Department of Transport. Also from

6 the FAA there were changes.

7 Q Was positive baggage reconciliation

8 reintroduced, for one thing?

9 A I cannot recall, but I believe so.


10 Q Mr. Berwick, prior to the disaster, were

11 you aware of a warning which had been circulated which

12 became known as the Toshiba warning?

13 A I was, sir.

14 Q And did that relate to the finding of a

15 quantity of explosives apparently concealed in

16 transistor radio devices in Germany?

17 A Correct, sir, yes.

18 Q And it was considered that those devices

19 had a link to a Palestinian group; is that correct?

20 A That is correct.

21 Q And did you receive circulation of a

22 warning in relation to that discovery, particularly

23 warning those charged with civil aviation security to

24 be on the alert in case such a device was attempted to

25 be put on board an American aircraft?


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1 A I cannot remember the exact wording of

2 the warnings, because there were several of them issued

3 at that time.

4 Q Was --

5 A I was aware of them, sir.

6 Q Was the content of that warning, so far

7 as you are aware, Mr. Berwick, circulated to Pan Am

8 employees engaged in the loading process and the Alert

9 Security employees charged with operating the x-ray

10 machinery?

11 A It was, sir, yes.

12 Q Are you sure about that?

13 A Yeah.

14 Q If we were to hear evidence in this

15 case, Mr. Berwick, that a considerable number of those

16 employees, as of 21st December 1988, knew nothing about

17 that warning, would that surprise you?

18 A It would surprise me, sir, because there

19 had been a build-up to this. It was not just the

20 Toshiba radio; it was also some other electronic

21 equipment. I believe there was a VCR; there was even a

22 TV unit that were in the warnings that were received.

23 Q Mr. Berwick, did you become aware also

24 of a warning being circulated which became known as the

25 Helsinki warning?


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1 A I was, sir.

2 Q And did that relate to the perceived

3 risk of an unaccompanied Finnish female passenger

4 boarding a plane with an improvised explosive device

5 concealed, possibly in a radio?

6 A As far as I can recall, there is no

7 mention of how it would be carried. It was a female

8 passenger, Finnish female passenger would be duped into

9 carrying a device.

10 Q I'm obliged. Was the contents of that

11 warning circulated to Pan Am staff at Heathrow, those

12 involved in the loading and unloading process, and

13 those Alert employees operating the x-ray machine?

14 A To the best of my knowledge, it was,

15 sir.

16 Q Again, Mr. Berwick, if we were to hear

17 evidence in this case that many of such employees knew

18 nothing about such a warning as of 21st December '88, I

19 take it you'd also be surprised at that?

20 A I would do, yes, sir.

21 Q So far as general security was involved

22 at London Heathrow, you would, presumably, as part of

23 your job, require to know that there were a

24 considerable number of security passes, airside

25 security passes, issued at Heathrow?



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1 A Sorry, I missed the first part of the

2 question, sir.

3 Q So far as general security at Heathrow

4 was concerned, and so far as it affected your role,

5 Mr. Berwick, you would require to know, presumably,

6 about the issue of airside security passes to staff at

7 that airport?

8 A The issuance of the airside passes was

9 the responsibility of the British Airports Authority,

10 and they would deal with the individual airlines and

11 their requests, and either issue or not issue, as the

12 case.

13 Q You would know, presumably, though,

14 Mr. Berwick, in general terms, that there was something

15 in the order of 40,000 such passes issued?

16 A That wouldn't surprise me, sir.

17 Q That wouldn't surprise you?

18 A No.

19 Q And you would know that there were an

20 appreciable number that were unaccounted for having

21 been issued?

22 A I wasn't aware of it, but I take your

23 word, sir.

24 Q But again, that wouldn't surprise you?

25 A No. No.

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4 Q Now, just one final matter, if you could

5 help me with, please.

6 These dreadful events occurred on the 21st of

7 December of 1988. Do you remember as at that date how

8 many security staff were employed at Heathrow in your

9 section?

10 A Outside of Alert, there would have been

11 only Mr. Jones and myself. Mike Jones.

12 Q So how many?

13 A Two.

14 Q Two. Two security staff at Heathrow.

15 In terms of the airport generally, how many security

16 staff as at the 21st of December 1988 were employed?

17 A You are now talking about airport

18 security?

19 Q Yes.

20 A All would I say, sir, there were

21 hundreds.

22 Q We've spoken about an organisation

23 called Alert Security.

24 A Yes, sir.

25 Q Now, as I understand matters, Alert



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1 Security is a specific firm that correlates with Pan Am

2 flights, or did; is that right?

3 A They were an affiliate company who were

4 tasked, so far as London and Frankfurt were concerned,

5 to provide security services in relation to passenger,

6 aircraft and passenger screening and baggage screening.

7 Q I am obliged to you. And in terms of

8 numbers, how many were employed by Alert Security as at

9 the 21st of December of 1988; do you remember? I am

10 not trying to catch you out. If I put a figure to you

11 of 81, would you accept that as being an accurate

12 figure?

13 A I would have thought probably in the

14 region of 100, but if you say 81, I accept that.

15 Q Would I be right in thinking that after

16 the events of the 21st of December, the number of

17 persons employed by Alert Security rose dramatically

18 from 81 to 251?

19 A That was correct, sir.

20 Q Now, does that give us an indication,

21 then, of once a proper analysis had been done of

22 security that was required at Heathrow of the

23 additional personnel that were required in order to

24 satisfy Pan Am that matters were now secure at

25 Heathrow, whereas in the past, plainly, they were not?



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1 A I think most of the increase in

2 personnel for Alert, sir, was basically because of new

3 legislation, new instructions from the U.S., FAA, and

4 from the U.K. Department of Transport.

5 Q Indeed. In other words, once people

6 looked at the system that was in operation and saw its

7 failings, they gave guidance as to the new system, and

8 the personnel involved increased dramatically, from 81

9 to 251?

10 A That was correct, sir.

11 Q Yes. Mr. Berwick, thank you very much

12 for your help.

13 A Thank you.

14 LORD SUTHERLAND: Advocate Depute.

15 MR. TURNBULL: I have no re-examination.

16 Thank you, My Lord.

17 LORD SUTHERLAND: Mr. Berwick, I wonder if

18 you can help us on one matter.

19 As far as originating passengers were

20 concerned at Heathrow Airport, if a passenger had

21 checked in, and had checked in, let us say, two

22 suitcases, and then did not show at the departure gate,

23 what would the proper procedure be as far as baggage

24 reconciliation was concerned?

25 A The system I believe that was in place




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1 at that time was that you would have to literally get

2 the complete record of that particular passenger, find

3 out where he was -- if you could find out what

4 nationality, all the criteria. Obviously try and trace

5 the bags, and then offload the bags. But there was a

6 certain amount of tolerance, that if there was a good

7 reason, that this passenger was bona fide, no problems

8 at all in their assessment, then the bags on some

9 situations would be allowed to remain on board and go.

10 But the basic procedure was: Get the bags, offload

11 them. And that was it.

12 LORD SUTHERLAND: Yes. Could you look at

13 Production 201, please, page 1.

14 You see there passenger number 9, Basuta, J.

15 A I do, sir.

16 LORD SUTHERLAND: From your knowledge of

17 these documents, would he be an originating passenger

18 at London?

19 A He would have been, sir, yes.

20 LORD SUTHERLAND: Yes. And it would appear

21 also that he had checked in two bags?

22 A Correct, sir.

23 LORD SUTHERLAND: Now, we've been told that

24 he did not show for this flight, being subsequently

25 discovered in a bar, I think, after the flight had


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1 taken off, but that his bags travelled on this flight.

2 Are you able to explain how that would come about?

3 A I wasn't there, but the story that my

4 colleague Mike Jones, who was at the gate, gave me that

5 evening was that Mr. Basuta was in actual -- located,

6 although they actually had closed the aircraft and were

7 about to push back. Mr. Basuta was en route to the

8 gate. They then checked out to find out what

9 nationality the gentleman was, and as a consequence,

10 the flight was allowed to depart with the bags on. He

11 was a U.S. citizen, and other questions had been asked,

12 and they were of the opinion that although he was a

13 gate no-show, they had resolved any queries about that

14 particular passenger.

15 LORD SUTHERLAND: I see.

16 Thank you, Mr. Berwick. That's all.

 
Cool. We're humming along here, with a lot of great analysis!

Regarding Shaughnessy, here is what caught my attention.

"Shaughnessy's affidavit also reveals details of polygraph (lie detector) tests on two former PanAm employees, which he believes show they switched the bag in Frankfurt containing the bomb."1
I just wanted to learn a bit more about Shaughnessy before assessing his credibility to say anything regarding bomb placement issues.



1. http://www.newsmakingnews.com/lockerbie_trial_held_to_ransom_b.htm

2. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20000409/ai_n13947511/?tag=content;col1
 
Testimony of Alan Berwick at Camp Zeist, Manager of corporate security for Pan Am along with Mike Jones.


Well, Basuta was obviously originally suspected of having a hand in this, but turned out to be completely innocent, just spent too long in the bar. Or long enough in the bar I suppose as it saved his life. He was still in the airport when the plane went down, I imagine trying to get a seat on another flight. The cops found him there and took him into custody. He got the shock of his life, apparently.

He was a Heathrow check-in, and his luggage wasn't in AVE4041.

Rolfe.
 
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Cool. We're humming along here, with a lot of great analysis!

Regarding Shaughnessy, here is what caught my attention.

"Shaughnessy's affidavit also reveals details of polygraph (lie detector) tests on two former PanAm employees, which he believes show they switched the bag in Frankfurt containing the bomb."1
I just wanted to learn a bit more about Shaughnessy before assessing his credibility to say anything regarding bomb placement issues.

1. http://www.newsmakingnews.com/lockerbie_trial_held_to_ransom_b.htm

2. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20000409/ai_n13947511/?tag=content;col1


Oh, that's an integral part of the Trail of the Octopus thesis. Coleman goes into it at great length. Polygraphs are complete woo anyway, so it doesn't really mean anything one way or another.

I think the resistance and hostility Shaughnessy encountered are more telling than the Jafaar drug-switch theory, which I think was what he was mainly pursuing, having talked to Coleman quite a lot.

Rolfe.
 
snip...
Regarding the bag placement, there's a question the explosives experts never answered, and which I think is central to figuring out the nature of the plot. If we assume the amount of Semtex was about 400 to 600g, how crucial was the positioning, really?


I am not an explosives expert, but I would think there is a lot of energy absorbtion potential in packed clothing, so why chance it? If I stand to collect $10 million, I am going to ensure the device has every possible chance of success, even if it costs me a few thousand to ensure privacy to get the bag exactly where it has to be.
I recall, of the other aircraft which had bombs explode in them, some landed and some did not, so prior experience might neccessitate much more careful placing to ensure the integrity of the aircraft skin was breached. That might give the best odds of bringing the aircraft down. One would think that each successful bomb blast on an aircraft would increase security after each event, so one would have to maximize aircraft damage lest increased security prevent another try.
 
One key element in all this appears to be- was the person who placed the bomb bag in AVE4041 a co-opted airport or airline worker, or a terrorist posing as a worker? If the former, there is a lot of chance involved, as the co-opted worker wouldn't understand or care if the bag was placed properly or not. Who's to know if the bag was placed in the front row or the back row, top, middle, or bottom?

So, it seems imperative one must have one of ones own people finish the job to ensure perfect reliability in bag placement. If one relies on any other method, it seems more a roll of the dice whether the bag is moved or even ends up in the right spot after movement.

If the terrorists didn't much care where the bomb ended up in AVE4041, then one could just check it in at Frankfurt and forget about it.
 
I am not an explosives expert, but I would think there is a lot of energy absorbtion potential in packed clothing, so why chance it? If I stand to collect $10 million, I am going to ensure the device has every possible chance of success, even if it costs me a few thousand to ensure privacy to get the bag exactly where it has to be.
I recall, of the other aircraft which had bombs explode in them, some landed and some did not, so prior experience might neccessitate much more careful placing to ensure the integrity of the aircraft skin was breached. That might give the best odds of bringing the aircraft down. One would think that each successful bomb blast on an aircraft would increase security after each event, so one would have to maximize aircraft damage lest increased security prevent another try.


By and large, I agree with you. I'd have thought they would have learned from their earlier efforts, and be doing whatever was necessary. I'm just not certain that the amount of explosive wasn't sufficient so that, for example, maybe 80% of the possible placements in the container would have done the job. In that case, it wouldn't have been especially important to ride point on the thing after it was placed in the container among the first few bags. (The worse positions from the point of view of the terrorists would be nearer the top, so it would be very unlikely any of the bags Bedford saw would fetch up there.) Even if they thought that was the case, it would be enough. It's not an exact science.

One key element in all this appears to be- was the person who placed the bomb bag in AVE4041 a co-opted airport or airline worker, or a terrorist posing as a worker? If the former, there is a lot of chance involved, as the co-opted worker wouldn't understand or care if the bag was placed properly or not. Who's to know if the bag was placed in the front row or the back row, top, middle, or bottom?

So, it seems imperative one must have one of ones own people finish the job to ensure perfect reliability in bag placement. If one relies on any other method, it seems more a roll of the dice whether the bag is moved or even ends up in the right spot after movement.

If the terrorists didn't much care where the bomb ended up in AVE4041, then one could just check it in at Frankfurt and forget about it.


Yes, indeed, that's all quite true. However, I don't think you could just "check it in" at Frankfurt. The Frankfurt x-ray people were all on the alert for electronics devices in luggage, and Maier confirms he would have pulled out any case that had a radio in it. You also couldn't rely on the plane taking off at Heathrow if the passenger attached to that bag didn't make the connection. That's exactly the sort of simple manoeuvre airport security was designed to foil in the 1980s.

This of course is the basis of the "Frankfurt bag switch" theory, which was necessary to circumvent Frankfurt security. It's generally agreed that if the bomb was to be introduced at Frankfurt it really had to be done after the x-ray stage. The Toshiba was a decent camouflage, but it couldn't be relied on after the Autumn Leaves events in October.

And maybe, if it wasn't for Bedford, I'd be pretty keen on this idea, and a member of the Aviv/Coleman/Francovich fan club. The disappearance of all the Frankfurt evidence makes it a bit difficult to test it out one way or another. We only know there was no reliable evidence presented of a rogue bag introduced at Frankfurt. On the other hand, Bedford saw a brown Samsonite very close to the right place in the container, where it was unlikely to be moved very far.

Rolfe.
 
By and large, I agree with you. I'd have thought they would have learned from their earlier efforts, and be doing whatever was necessary. I'm just not certain that the amount of explosive wasn't sufficient so that, for example, maybe 80% of the possible placements in the container would have done the job. In that case, it wouldn't have been especially important to ride point on the thing after it was placed in the container among the first few bags. (The worse positions from the point of view of the terrorists would be nearer the top, so it would be very unlikely any of the bags Bedford saw would fetch up there.) Even if they thought that was the case, it would be enough. It's not an exact science.

snip...

Yes, indeed, that's all quite true. However, I don't think you could just "check it in" at Frankfurt. The Frankfurt x-ray people were all on the alert for electronics devices in luggage, and Maier confirms he would have pulled out any case that had a radio in it. You also couldn't rely on the plane taking off at Heathrow if the passenger attached to that bag didn't make the connection. That's exactly the sort of simple manoeuvre airport security was designed to foil in the 1980s.

snip...

Rolfe.

But, Abu Elias WAS the airport security expert, and he would- or should have known that passenger reconciliation with luggage was NOT (according to Berwick's testimony) followed.

"6337

1 Q After the disaster, do I take it that a

2 lot of changes to the security system, if I can put it

3 as broadly as that, were made?

4 A Yes, both from -- as far as the U.K. was

5 concerned, from the Department of Transport. Also from

6 the FAA there were changes.

7 Q Was positive baggage reconciliation

8 reintroduced, for one thing?

9 A I cannot recall, but I believe so."

So, it would seem an unaccompanied bag could have been introduced at Frankfurt, and not been reconciled with its owner, and placed aboard PA103.

Regarding the bomb, I agree it's quite plausible that the quantity of Semtex used may have given the terrorists for hire the smug feeling that placement anywhere in AVE4041 would be sufficient to blast a hole in the skin of the aircraft. An idea of the blast force of Semtex;
"Three pounds of Semtex plastique packs enough punch to raze a two-story building"1
I cannot imagine they didn't have the entire operation under surveilance in some fashion, though.
With 10 million dollars at stake, I would.

1. citation available upon request.
 
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Well, I was mainly thinking about the x-ray part. Pretty much everyone looking seriously at the Frankfurt operation believes that a Frankfurt introduction would have had to circumvent Maier, because Maier would have spotted the radio. (Kamboj, on the other hand....)

Also, there was some reconciliation at Heathrow, we know. They knew Basuta had missed the plane, but decided to take off anyway, because all the circumstances suggested he wasn't a threat.

[Makes me wonder what would have happened if they'd delayed for him. If they'd actually stopped to get his luggage off they could well still have been on the tarmac at 7 o'clock. Would there have been an explosion, or not, I wonder? More probably, though, they'd simply have reopened the plane and let him board, because it would have been quicker. There would still have been a delay though. So where would the explosion have happened? At 7.03pm, or 38 minutes after take-off? This nicely demonstrates the insanity of a timer-triggered explosion set for 7pm - this sort of delay happens all the time.]

Anyway, they knew Basuta was missing, and I'd bet they would have known if a PA103A transfer passenger hadn't made the connection too. Whether they would have done anything about it is another matter, but they might have, especially if the passenger had completely vanished, and had a middle-eastern (or Irish) name or passport.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but this scenario has been looked at very closely by everyone from Aviv to Coleman to Francovich, and nothing very concrete has emerged.

Rolfe.
 
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However, there's something been niggling me for a while about what Baz says in that article.

It sounds from this as if most if not all of the bags Bedford placed himself belonged to the CIA operatives who flew in from Larnaca. McKee, two cases. Gannon, one case. LaRiviere, Baz doesn't say. That's conceivably "four or five cases".

Then there's O'Connor's luggage, which should have been there but was left behind. Two cases. Never made it, went into a baggage store. Instead, the two mysterious "Bedford suitcases" appeared in the container. Never discovered who these belonged to or what happened to them.

It's odd that two suitcases that should have been in that container, weren't, and two suspect cases with no known provenance, were. Could there have been some sort of substitution of O'Connor's luggage? I'd dearly love to know whether the proper PA103 tags were still on O'Connor's cases when they were found in that baggage store....

Assuming Baz is right about these details, that is. I don't know where he got them from.


What do you guys think about this? I've added a comment to Baz's article asking him about it.

Looking at it in more detail, I see Baz mentions several flights bringing interline passengers to PA103 - Vienna and Brussels as well as Cyprus. So we can't just assume that it was the Cyprus interline baggage that was in AVE4041 before the Bedford suitcases got there.

The number of cases suggests a single flight, and it's right for the number of cases known to be carried by the CIA personnel who flew interline from Cyprus. And if that were the case, it does raise the very interesting possibility that the Bedford suitcases were in fact bag-switches for O'Connor's luggage.

Which brings the CIA presence right back into the heart of the story.

Of course, even if this is what happened, there's no real reason it couldn't simply have been a random pick by the terrorist. He just needed to lose two suitably-tagged suitases and substitute his own. But it's an interesting thought. And if that's what happened, and the authorities had some suspicion of that, they might not have been at all keen on the details getting out. So again, let's all focus on the Frankfurt baggage....

Rolfe.
 
So, it would seem an unaccompanied bag could have been introduced at Frankfurt, and not been reconciled with its owner, and placed aboard PA103.

In fact, if I'm not mistake, there over a dozen such items with no people on board 103A. That's in Octopus I believe, again one of the more trustworthy sections. I'm not sure the status of these - some were maybe airline employee luggagebeing forwarded. ??

Sorry I'm not as much help lately. Luckily I don't seem to be needed so much. :)

On the current discussion, terrorists will sometimes have to leave things to chance, dpending on their resources. I wouldn't go the extreme the SCOTBOM people did and presume they'd let multiple baggage handling crews at three airports rearramge, inspect, misoute, or delay my bomb. But I might be willing to get in in the right spot once and walk away hoping it isn't moved much. It's been suggested by Rolfe that it could be double-checked just before the feeder is to be loaded.

In fact, a loader on that crew would be the best accomplice, to slide them in place and lock them buried in place. But I agree having two people co-ordinating like that gets unbelievable.
 
I've spent some time reading through Day 43 of the Zeist transcripts, and a number of notable points was gleaned.

Mr Walker, supervisor of the Baggage Build-Up shed of Heathrow's terminal 3, and dealing with specifically the baggage for 103, was who Bedford went to see during his break of about 20mins at about 3pm on the afternoon of the 21st.

Bedford puts his return from break at 4:40. Hmm... "A I don't remember offhand. Maybe 3.30, something like that." Alright, close enough, maybe. It was for a cup of tea. He doesn't remember what they talked about.

Interesting he didn't recall the container for the police. These are fairly big details you have in your mind all day, and when that plane blows up within a couple hours, you'd have to be a guppy to forget that last container for 103.

Q -- you told the tribunal then that Mr. Bedford had brought bags in a container round from the interline shed and had left them in the baggage build-up area not far from your office?
A Yes.
Q Can you explain why you told that information to the Fatal Accident Inquiry, but you told something different to the police, when the police initially took statements from you?
A No, I can't explain that.
Q You are not able to explain that at all?
A No, I can't.
Q Because there is quite --
A I find it very hard to understand, but if you say so, that's how it is.

:eye-poppi

Excellent summation. I'll need to look at Walker's statements like I did Bedford's and Kamboj's. For now I'll rely on what you've got here. Cool.

This raised a problem as Walker revealed that if a container were brought to the baggage build-up area from the interline shed, it would not be brought actually inside the shed, but left, unattended, on the build up ramp outside the shed. Of greater concern, the container whilst on the ramp, would not be in view of those working in the build up area.

Ah, that's the "45 min unattended time" sometimes cited, not Bedford's break. Indeed, great opportunity to verify the previous arrangement.


The bags anticipated on the 103A flight, joining 103 to New York, were also expected to be contained in one specific baggage container so as to presumably allow a speedy and straightforward swap from one aircraft to the other given that 103A was Pan Am's main feeder for the transatlantic flight.

Small point, but I believe 103a was loaded open, with no containers. And I heaar 4041 was filled with a few bags left that wouldn't fit.

On the Berwick spoiler,

1 When you see a spoiler, you're

2 conditioned to expect a snarky

3 punchline. Instead, it's the

4 lines...
tl;dr. :) (will later)​
 
What do you guys think about this? I've added a comment to Baz's article asking him about it.

Looking at it in more detail, I see Baz mentions several flights bringing interline passengers to PA103 - Vienna and Brussels as well as Cyprus. So we can't just assume that it was the Cyprus interline baggage that was in AVE4041 before the Bedford suitcases got there.

The number of cases suggests a single flight, and it's right for the number of cases known to be carried by the CIA personnel who flew interline from Cyprus. And if that were the case, it does raise the very interesting possibility that the Bedford suitcases were in fact bag-switches for O'Connor's luggage.

Which brings the CIA presence right back into the heart of the story.

Of course, even if this is what happened, there's no real reason it couldn't simply have been a random pick by the terrorist. He just needed to lose two suitably-tagged suitases and substitute his own. But it's an interesting thought. And if that's what happened, and the authorities had some suspicion of that, they might not have been at all keen on the details getting out. So again, let's all focus on the Frankfurt baggage....

Rolfe.

I'm not getting chills but maybe should be. That's an interesting hypothesis.

So far I've been seeing a simple addition of two at the container. Where and how would a swap happen?
 
I'm not getting chills but maybe should be. That's an interesting hypothesis.

So far I've been seeing a simple addition of two at the container. Where and how would a swap happen?


I don't know. I'm brainstorming.

The idea of a baggage swap rather than a simple addition is at the heart of the Frankfurt theories. I suppose the main driving force behind this is the idea that an arrangement existed for the drug-smuggling bags to be smuggled past the x-ray operatives (who would spot any significant quantity of drugs as well as explosives). This was then subverted, and the bomb bag swithced for the drugs bag. There's so much wrong with this I don't know where to begin, but there it was. The bag-switch theory.

I can't see why extra cases couldn't simply have been put on AVE4041, and maybe that's exactly what did happen. However, when I then hear about two case that apparently ought to have been on AVE4041 and inexplicably weren't, I start to wonder. And then, these cases belonged to one of the CIA officers?

Could be something as simple as needing the tags. Instead of printing fake tags, why not snag a legitimately-tagged bag or two, and switch them? It would be easy to do a quick and dirty job on that, with scissors or a knife, and sellotape or glue or a sticky paper label. It wouldn't stand close inspection, but it probably wouldn't have to.

Or maybe there really is some deep significance to the fact this was CIA bags it happened to. I don't know. It may be nothing. the Larnaca luggage could have been in a completely different container for all I know, and O'Connor's bags simply left behind by accident. It's just an angle I'd like to explore, see if it leads anywhere.

Rolfe.
 
In fact, if I'm not mistake, there over a dozen such items with no people on board 103A. That's in Octopus I believe, again one of the more trustworthy sections. I'm not sure the status of these - some were maybe airline employee luggagebeing forwarded. ??


Coleman reports legitimate unaccompanied luggage on board - that's the "rush tags" thing, either airline employee property being sent on (Hubbard's bag, in particular), or previously mislaid items being returned to their owners.

He also reports some accidental items, things tagged for completely different flights that got on PA103 by mistake. Or one such item, anyway. It happens.

That's rather different from the disappearing passenger situation. You could introduce a bag with the right tags and no passenger, and it would get through unless the x-ray operator spotted something suspicious. But if a passenger who was known to have checked luggage in did a runner, that would trigger some action. We know that because of Basuta. There was a positive decision taken not to act on that because the guy had a US passport and was observed actually running for the plane. But they did know about him.

I don't think a bag switch is necessary. A bag could easily be added, if you had the right tags. However, a bag switch is still possible, either because of complications we're not aware of, or simply as a means of getting the tags.

Rolfe.
 

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