Loch Ness Monster real?

[William Parcher]

More photographic evidence of "big cats"...

This one is called Durham Puma, but that is not a puma.

Nice, eh?

Another still from another video.

A video called "Puma Footage"

Still from another video...

 

[carcharodon]

The top photo, like the previous ones, is so distant, so lacking in scale, and its boundaries so compromised by blur that it's hard to say what it is. It doesn't look much like a the well-fed tabby below, but it doesn't look much like a leopard either. I wouldn't bet my life on its even being feline.

You wouldn't? Not when you see the other shot of the same footage? You don't think this screams 'feline'?

I can't see what else it can possibly be if not feline.

It could be anything from a panther to a domestic cat. Of course it could also be any of a number of other things, and I don't discount the possibility that some rich dude's pet ocelot got away, or that some other alien cat has gotten loose. Such things do happen.

....and that's the whole point. This is what I'm suggesting is at the core of these alien cats seen in Britain. Escaped zoo animals, released or escaped pets.

But by itself, it's a picture of anything or nothing.

It's not by itself though. The animal has also been suposedly seen elsewhere around the region:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/htmlContent.jhtml?html=/archive/1996/11/24/nbest24.html

""[SIZE=+2]The Fen Tiger: Yes, there is something out there[/SIZE]






A large, black creature is on the loose near a school in Cambridge. John Gaskell goes in search of the elusive feline

THE FEN TIGER, after six years of fabulous existence slinking around the villages north-east of Cambridge, made a bold leap for fame last week and landed in the centre of town.
If sane, adult witnesses are to be believed, the large, black, long-tailed cat has decided on a very smart address in an area of woodland close to the University Library, just across the road from Trinity Hall, a few playful leaps from the Senate House.
Darwin College is a few tiger-run seconds away. What would its founder have made of a specimen that has evolved in a week from shy rustic to brazen townie?
One man is obliged to take the phenomenon seriously. Kevin Jones, headmaster of St John's College School, with 440 children in his care, kept them away from their sports field after being told by the head groundsman that the creature was there on Monday morning as he opened the gates at 6.30am.

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I'll just repeat that part for the scoftics amongst you:

""From photographic evidence, Dr Eltringham believes the "tiger" to be a puma, jaguar or leopard.""

 

[William Parcher]

I'll just repeat that part for the scoftics amongst you:

"From photographic evidence, Dr Eltringham believes the "tiger" to be a puma, jaguar or leopard."

It's nice to see a zoologist suggesting that this is a black puma.

 

[carcharodon]

It's nice to see a zoologist suggesting that this is a black puma.

You conveneintly forgot this:

"" He is puzzled by two aspects. Although the puma comes in a range of colours, it is never darker than bluish-grey, never black.""

Still, bang goes your 'it's a moggy' suggestion though hey?

 

[kitakaze]

If Nessie could type she'd (I'm sorry, crypto-geeks- they'd) certainly be pissed about the hijack.

 

[William Parcher]

You conveneintly forgot this:

"" He is puzzled by two aspects. Although the puma comes in a range of colours, it is never darker than bluish-grey, never black.""

Still, bang goes your 'it's a moggy' suggestion though hey?

The guy sounds whacked. He's puzzled why a puma would be black, but doesn't consider that it isn't a puma? WTF?

 

[Cuddles]

More photographic evidence of "big cats"...

This one is called Durham Puma, but that is not a puma.
[qimg]http://www.bigcats.org/abc/images/catrabbit.jpg[/qimg]

Looks like a dog.

Nice, eh?
[qimg]http://www.bigcats.org/abc/images/laggancat.jpg[/qimg]

Looks like a tree.

Another still from another video.
[qimg]http://www.bigcats.org/abc/images/video.jpg[/qimg]

Looks like some spilt some ink on a piece of paper.

[qimg]http://www.bigcats.org/abc/images/kentcat.jpg[/qimg]

Looks like a normal cat.

[qimg]http://www.bigcats.org/abc/images/axeman.jpg[/qimg]

Looks like some kind of small fluffy animal, but I can't really make out its face at that angle.

[qimg]http://www.bigcats.org/abc/images/antrimcat.jpg[/qimg]

Looks like a cat.

Still from another video...
[qimg]http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/167/video.jpg[/qimg]

Can't really make anything out, but looks most like a sheepdog.

Is this seriously the most convincing evidence you can find? Some blurry photos of pet cats and dogs, with a couple that are hard to identify?

On a different note, carcharodon, I'm afraid I've had to report you for copying and pasting a whole newspaper article, which is against the membership rules and copyright law.

 

[carcharodon]

The guy sounds whacked. He's puzzled why a puma would be black, but doesn't consider that it isn't a puma? WTF?

Yes, he does consider it isn't a puma. He considers it might be a leopard or a jaguar.

That in itself is 'consideration' that it isn't a puma.

Jesus. WTF am I dealing with here?

 

[William Parcher]

Is this seriously the most convincing evidence you can find?

That's it. Very sad. There are videos associated with some of the stills, but I can't find those. A video is a much better way to try to identify the animal in question.

I can show some known hoaxes if you're curious.

Sorry about the major hijack. This subject deserves its own thread. Can a mod split this thread?

 

[carcharodon]

Is this seriously the most convincing evidence you can find? Some blurry photos of pet cats and dogs, with a couple that are hard to identify?

No sleepy head.

THESE were the most convincing pieces of evidence I could find.

Puma. Caught!

http://www.scottishbigcats.co.uk/felicitypiccies.htm

Lynx. Shot!

http://www.scottishbigcats.co.uk/suffolkpiccietext.htm

Leopard cat. Shot!

http://www.scottishbigcats.co.uk/shotleopardcattext.htm

Wakey wakey! Somebody isn't passing attention are they?

On a different note, carcharodon, I'm afraid I've had to report you for copying and pasting a whole newspaper article, which is against the membership rules and copyright law.

I didn't know about that. You've had to report me? You couldn't pm me to point this out? Somebody put a gun to your head and told you to report me did they? Are you an administator? A moderator? If not then may I suggest that you shove your report well and truly up your arse?

Thank you and good evening.

Please re-read your membership agreement to ensure you fully understand your obligations regarding it, particularly the part regarding civility toward other members of the forums.

It's your responsibility to understand and comply with the agreement; don't expect other members to privately correct you, although such an action would be laudable on their part.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: jmercer

 

[William Parcher]

Yes, he does consider it isn't a puma. He considers it might be a leopard or a jaguar.

That in itself is 'consideration' that it isn't a puma.

Jesus. WTF am I dealing with here?

Trying to pull semantics and word games here, just like you do in the Bigfoot threads.

The guy is daft for mentioning puma at all. The only proper way to mention puma would be, "Puma can be eliminated because this animal is black."

 

[carcharodon]

Trying to pull semantics and word games here, just like you do in the Bigfoot threads.

Trying to be a complete donut, like you are in the bigfoot threads?

The guy is daft for mentioning puma at all. The only proper way to mention puma would be, "Puma can be eliminated because this animal is black."

Still, least he didn't say it was a moggy hey?

 

[William Parcher]

Still, least he didn't say it was a moggy hey?

The stills look like a housecat to me. I'd like to see the video. I'd also like to hear the opinion of another zoologist with specialization in large felids. I wonder if other professional opinions were sought in the production of the news article.

 

[kitakaze]

On a different note, carcharodon, I'm afraid I've had to report you for copying and pasting a whole newspaper article, which is against the membership rules and copyright law.

I didn't know about that. You've had to report me? You couldn't pm me to point this out? Somebody put a gun to your head and told you to report me did they? Are you an administator? A moderator? If not then may I suggest that you shove your report well and truly up your arse?

Thank you and good evening.

I didn't bother reporting sunshine here for this little gem in a BF thread:

Get it? Best if you kept quiet and didn't play favourites hey? Or if you did really want to be the thought police you could have at least been consistent and shared your advice all around on both sides of the debate.


No, it was Diogenese plus one out of either Desert Yeti or Tube. Personally, I don't care what gossip or finger pointing they made. It was only because YOU saw fit to only pull ME up (on two seperate occassions) that I thought your input was a bit ridiculous.

Go choke if you dont like it.

I'm guessing the appeal to chill out was a waste. Enjoy it while you can.

 

[carcharodon]

Ahhhhhhhh I see.

I thought you were 'disregarding' my posts kitakaze?

I never think about reporting anybody. Hell, I never even reported DY for libel.

 

[kitakaze]

I thought you were 'disregarding' my posts kitakaze?

I never think about reporting anybody. Hell, I never even reported DY for libel.

You want a PM? You got it.

 

[carcharodon]

You want a PM? You got it.

I didn't want a pm from you. For crying out loud, please can you stop following me around the threads like a love sick puppy and please don't pm me again in future. K?

Leave me alone will you? You are beginning to freak me.LOL. From the moment I first came here all you have done is pick pick pick.

Enough already!

 

[kitakaze]

I didn't want a pm from you. For crying out loud, please can you stop following me around the threads like a love sick puppy and please don't pm me again in future. K?

Leave me alone will you? You are beginning to freak me.LOL. From the moment I first came here all you have done is pick pick pick.

Enough already!

Fair enough, carcharodon. I will resume disregarding your posts (though I'm not going to make you the first person on my ignore list as even your points in the BF threads I would like to consider).

In light of your refusal of appeals to tone it down and your continued abusive language, however, you are the first person I have the great displeasure of reporting.

 

[Davo]

Loch Ness Photo

The most famous photo showing the Loch Ness Monster was shown to be fake a while back.

The photographer admitted it was taken using a remote controlled model submarine.

I will try and get a link to this

 

[kitakaze]

I think I remember seeing one or two documentary shows on a recent Nessie sub.