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Liz Cheney running for Senate

Spindrift said:
He just announced he's going to run again. What kind of 'deal' could they give him?
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People with connections and influence like Cheney has, could make his life very comfortable after leaving politics, if he plays ball.
 
I'm assuming this isn't the lesbian daughter. Wouldn't that be fun to watch (if it were her!)

I wonder if all those who rallied against Hillary moving to NY (presumbly moving just to run) will rally against Ms. Cheney moving to Wyoming (presumably moving just to run).
 
No, I think Mary Cheney is the lesbian one.


Liz did a naughty thing:

Liz Cheney Pays Fine For Fishy Fishing License

Republican Wyoming Senate candidate Liz Cheney paid a $220 bond Wednesday for making a false statement on an application for a fishing license last year, Jackson Hole News&Guide reported.

Records show that the daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney received a license 72 days after closing on her Wyoming house in May 2012, having just relocated from Virginia. State law requires that residents live in the state 365 consecutive days before they are eligible to receive a resident hunting or fishing license, however.

Wyoming state law provides that: “No person shall procure or attempt to procure any license or tag under this act by false swearing, fraud, or false statement of any kind or in any form.”
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WildCat said:
Why would the Dems want to waste resources on an unwinnable election?
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We thought Claire Mccaskill was politically dead for awhile. Anything can happen, especially on the Republican side. Maybe another "wetback" comment. Who knows.
 
A Democrat won't win a statewide election in Wyoming. We'll see a Republican mayor of San Francisco first.
 
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WildCat said:
Why would the Dems want to waste resources on an unwinnable election?
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In the UK equivalent usual reason is to provide people with a place to practice where it doesn't matter if they screw up. First step on the political ladder is campaigning in an unwinable seat.
 
geni said:
In the UK equivalent usual reason is to provide people with a place to practice where it doesn't matter if they screw up. First step on the political ladder is campaigning in an unwinable seat.
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Thing is in the US there is a definent prejudice against moving to a district or state for the specific purpose of running for Congress. It is called "Carpetbagging" and it is heavily frowned upon. In fact, it is probably Liz Cheney's biggest handicap.
 
dudalb said:
Thing is in the US there is a definent prejudice against moving to a district or state for the specific purpose of running for Congress. It is called "Carpetbagging" and it is heavily frowned upon. In fact, it is probably Liz Cheney's biggest handicap.
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Carpetbagging elected senators: Robert Kennedy (NY), Elizabeth Dole* (NC), Hillary Clinton (NY), Al Franken* (MN). Those are the ones that come immediately to mind.

*Native of state and moved back to run, so half credit.
 
sloinker said:
This is true. I live in Wyoming and the Democrats here are far and few between. I see in the local paper that Cheney and Enzi both attended a Tea Party get together this past weekend. Each trying to out crazy the other.



http://trib.com/news/state-and-regi...cle_7dca1689-0e4a-521c-8cc8-ec1b47058951.html
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This part sort of bothers me:
Earlier in the day, Wayne Simmons, a Fox News terrorism analyst who previously worked for the Central Intelligence Agency, said hundreds of mosques are springing up on the East Coast and that’s not a good thing because that’s where terrorists can be recruited and where money can be laundered.

“The liberals of the world would have you believe they are practicing freedom of religion,” he said. “That is nonsense.”
Enzi said that he wasn’t familiar with terrorists being recruited from those mosques.

“We have to be very careful with our religious freedom, that we don’t give up our Bill of Rights,” he said.

Cheney said that Anwar al-Awlaki, a Muslim cleric who preached at mosques in the United States, is believed to have communicated with Fort Hood shooter Army Maj. Nidal Hasan.

“I do think that we know that recruitment goes on through mosques,” she said.
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So, uh, what exactly are "liberals" or anyone else supposed to do about that?
Congress shall make no law concerning an establishment of religion. I'm not happy about mosques going up but the constitution says that people are free to practice their religion. I thought the Tea Party was supposed to be all about the constitution and religious freedom.

Enzi at least seems to recognize that basic fact. What exactly does the Tea Party stand for anyway?
 
dudalb said:
Thing is in the US there is a definent prejudice against moving to a district or state for the specific purpose of running for Congress. It is called "Carpetbagging" and it is heavily frowned upon. In fact, it is probably Liz Cheney's biggest handicap.
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Oh you don't need to move the candidate (although is some cases they are moved). There's always some local or other who will run. Its the political operatives around them that you move. Get your bright young wanabe campain organisers and send them off to unwinnable seats. See who does best under real conditions and move them to somewhere winnable.
 
hgc said:
Carpetbagging elected senators: Robert Kennedy (NY), Elizabeth Dole* (NC), Hillary Clinton (NY), Al Franken* (MN). Those are the ones that come immediately to mind.

*Native of state and moved back to run, so half credit.
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When is one no longer a carpetbagger? I ask because in my field (science), it is almost impossible to stay in one state (let along one city) for an entire career. I wonder if a scientist would ever get around that label.

Daredelvis
 
Liz chooses political expediency (i.e., pandering to bigots) over supporting the right of her sister to marry:

Mary Cheney: My Sister Is ‘Dead Wrong’ On Gay Marriage

Mary Cheney, the daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney and younger sister of Liz Cheney, a Wyoming Senate candidate, took to Facebook to criticize her sister’s recent statement reiterating her opposition to gay marriage, the New York Times reported Saturday.

Mary Cheney, who is openly gay and married her longtime partner last year, posted Friday evening: “For the record, I love my sister, but she is dead wrong on the issue of marriage.”

“Freedom means freedom for everyone,” she added, according to the NYT. “That means that all families — regardless of how they look or how they are made — all families are entitled to the same rights, privileges and protections as every other.”

Their father, Dick Cheney, supports same-sex marriage.

"I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Liz Cheney said a statement released earlier Friday.
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daredelvis said:
When is one no longer a carpetbagger? I ask because in my field (science), it is almost impossible to stay in one state (let along one city) for an entire career. I wonder if a scientist would ever get around that label.

Daredelvis
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There's no hard and fast rule The term is usually applied as an epithet, so the speaker may have a vested interest.

In the 4 cases I cited, I think they all moved to the state pretty close to the time they announced their campaign. In the case of RFK, he had attended school in NY for six years, though I don't know if he had ever been registered to vote there (as opposed to MA, where he was from). Franken, who had been living in NY for most of his adulthood, appears to have really moved home to MN, and lives there for real. Dole, on the other hand, didn't really settle back into NC so much, as she had lived in DC for most of her adult life. You know the story of Clinton.
 
NWO Sentryman said:
With a name like Cheney, her campaign is SOL, considering that he was a Rasputin figure in American politics.
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I would use the term eminence grise instead, but in any case. Why would being a behind-the-scenes power broker that pulled the strings during the W administration be considered a bad thing either by the American electorate as a whole or by the Wyoming electorate?
 
Tricky said:
Surely she is one of the most dangerous people that could ever be in Congress. Statements like "Compromise is akin to Communism" show that she has inherited her dad's penchant for extremism
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Did she actually say that? All I could find were people labeling her as someone who would believe that "Compromise is akin to Communism."

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Alt+F4 said:
Rabbit Season! :D
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Duck season!

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Puppycow said:
Liz Cheney Pays Fine For Fishy Fishing License
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I hope Mary's spouse doesn't bring that up at Thanksgiving dinner. That might make things a bit awkward at the table.
 
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Jeez, a carpetbagging candidate who's never held a public office jumps right into a US Senatorial campaign against a 16-year popular incumbent in her own party. Based on what, mostly family name recognition? How far could she and Enzi differ substantially on most every issue?

That takes some balls.
 
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