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Live TV Exorcism

Another question that'll probably never be answered.. Do they have EEG traces for someone undergoing conventional psychotherapy to compare against?
 
Seeing as the subject believed he was possessed anyway,he was highly suggestible.So along comes a "respected " expert Rev. who does his bit and this could subconciously effect any possible output.Also it was an anxiety inducing atmosphere,which would also affect results(nervousness,stress).Nice to hear someone mention the placebo effect,and have it ignored.
 
Oh well. The Carlin and Bacardi Breezer ads were funny.

Did I hear correctly -- that Colin (the subject's) wife is also a "caster out of demons." ??? * (see below) Sounds to me like the cult recruitment comment might be right. Maybe the minister and Colin's wife are . . . nah, good Christians don't do that, do they?

Surprisingly, the scientists looked wierder than the believers :)

The born-again woman with the feathers looked like a right little neb. She was very agitated because she felt like belting the unbelievers and heretics, but thought twice about it so she wouldn't have to go through any more of the rev's weird "sessions".

Now, if they'd had Derek Acorah as subject -- what a fine piece of demon getting out we might have seen.

*(see next post for corrections)
 
Sorry - last post I got mixed up.

It was Trevor Newport's (the minister) wife who was in the audience. So, it's a family business. ;)

I liked the bit where it was suggested that Colin and Trevor were acting out, like in hypnotism, with Colin being coached to respond in a particular way. (Dr Glenn Wilson)

Trevor Newport says "That didn't happen. I didn't coach him. We didn't collaborate, in that sense. I simply asked him if there was anything particular . . ."

Yet Colin has been seeing the rev for FOUR YEARS.

Yeah, somebody was "extracting the Djinn, here." i.e. Taking the Mickey.:(

I think Colin was B.A.I., very suggestible, probably with a troubled past.

Note that the Rev uses a psychology term in his casting out -- what Colin wanted removed (according to Trev, the Rev) was "fear" and "paranoia".

Why "paranoia" when he has been certified sane by three psychiatrists? Has Trevor told Colin that he must be paranoid?

Watch the next gripping episode:

"Colin falls asleep in front of the TV, and the dog pees on his slippers!"
 
ROFL!

Watch the next gripping episode:

"Colin falls asleep in front of the TV, and the dog pees on his slippers!"

ROFL, Mighty Thor!!!

I only watched the programme before - The Real Exorcist - and about the first ten minutes of the "Exorcism" It just struck me as such a pathetic mixture of credulous people and a risable situation that I couldn't watch it any longer. I had the impression that the presenter was fighting the urge to laugh the whole time (I guess 'corpsing' might have been appropriate!;) ) Even the Vicar who was to do the ritual looked about to give into a fit of giggles - although, I guess that could have been nerves... - and did they have to pick someone called Trevor? No offence to Trevors out there but the name lacks a certain gravitas necessary for communing with demons!

;)


Oh - and how come the possessed person was just sitting there passively waiting for his interview? Don't you think the demons might have been a bit narked at being cast out on national television? Why didn't he start thrashing about the studio? That would have been far more entertaining! I thought it was hilarious when the minister admitted to having exorcised Colin many times before! He's a bit rubbish eh?

I was surprised that I actually felt bored by it.:( But there, we go...

The programme before about the "Real Exorcist" raised other concerns. That poor boy. What started out possibly as a prank became a nightmare. They locked him away in that institution... It is interesting that he is now a scientist as an adult & claims to have no memory of that summer. I think I'd repress it too...

DeVega
 
the ministers claim that Colin was a good subject as he was a calm person is quite humourous considering that there were supposed to be demons posessing him. Why did it matter what Colin was like if there was an external influence (the demon or whatever) controlling him?

Have there been any complaints or anything? :D
 
Haven't read the whole thread here, but just to point out, the possessed guy was well known to the priest (or whatever he was).

He was on the radio during the day talking about how he'd been 'delivered' before.

Obviously not a permanent fix then this exorcism lark - good business if you can get it...
 
I suppose the only disturbing thing about the whole thing was the linking of the "real" exorcism case and the studio farce.

The "real" case, as de Vega said, was a case of religious fanatics who were totally out of their depth in dealing with a pubescent boy who was seeking attention. When adults take such "supernatural games" by youngsters seriously, somebody usually gets hurt. The priest warning about the dangers of using an ouija board and contacting spirits is nothing but propaganda. It's all part of the "you must believe in God and therfore in Satan" philosophy. However, the warning could be sound in the sense of "you shouldn't dabble in the occult if you are mentally insecure." We all know how the mind can play tricks on us, and that imagination can run wild given the right circumstances. "Charismatic" churches rely on this hysteria effect.

The whole possession idea should be offensive to anyone concerned about the mentally ill. It implies that "ill" means "bad". It is obscurantist and immoral to say people get sick because they are somehow "bad", or because they don't follow a particular credo.

Let's not forget which group was first targetted for elimination by the Nazis -- it was the mentally ill.
 
It would have helped if they actually had someone who was possessed to exorcise.
 
jambo372 said:
It would have helped if they actually had someone who was possessed to exorcise.
Click to expand...

I'm all for that. How do you propose we scientifically test for possession cf. a mental disorder?
 
Jaggy Bunnet...

Maybe that link should be added to the "Where's the Harm" thread? It will bump the thread back up too...

A worrying trend indeed - especially since the "charismatic" churches are becoming so popular now here in the UK.

Cheers
DeVega
 
Yeah, this kind of stuff is discouraging. Is it any wonder that it is deemed better to become a 'respected psychic', than to admit to yourself or others that you might have a mental illness?

Promoting the notion that people can be possessed by demons on public television echoes to the dark ages.
 
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