Merged Les Stroud's bigfoot show?

I watched both episodes and was disappointed with Stroud's ease of conversion. Actually, I think he went in as a believer. It was only nine minutes into the first episode that he claimed that no act of nature and no human could have caused the small trees they saw broken in half, and also made the same claim about the couple of dead tree structures they found, or actually were led to by Standing.

Stroud heard one single "whoop" off in the distance ( only once in both episodes ) in return to his call, and claimed it could not be anything normal and natural. He said it was beyond belief that it could be anyone perpetrating a hoax. I can't believe that anyone could think that, especially when it was just one single occurrence. They were out there in the wilderness, so why couldn't someone else be there too? I don't think it is too much to think that someone could have been planted out there in order to boost the ratings and increase the believability of the show. Stroud also did claim, more than once, that no normal animal could make the noises he heard during these two shows and at other times in his survival career.

Standing also drove Stroud out to a remote spot ( more remote than they already were ) twice so he could do solo overnight sessions. He managed to hear noises that he suggested were not normal nature each time, but did not see anything. He seemed oblivious to the possibility that since Standing knew exactly where he was that Standing might have snuck back during the night and hoaxed the noises. Seems like it would be easy enough to do.

They took a long, difficult trek up to a very isolated high ground area to witness more broken dead trees as evidence, and claimed that no one would ever make it up there to perpetrate a hoax, and yet they were there. So why not someone else? Standing had obviously been up there several times himself before.

Basically it was just one long commentary about Stroud's incredulity that all this could happen way out in the woods where only super survivalists like himself would venture. The totality of his "evidence" amounted to a few dozen small, thin, dead, broken trees ... two large tree structures that looked like someone was trying to build a teepee ... some indentations in the moss surrounding the tree structures that Stroud claimed had to be Bigfoot tracks ... some disappearing apples that they placed around the tree structures ... one single "whoop" off in the far distance ... and some assorted noises at night that he couldn't identify.

Stroud finished the show by claiming that he was still a sceptic until he actually saw a Bigfoot, but his comments all through the show did not support that statement.
 
Northern Lights said:
Did anyone watch this last night? If so, thoughts?
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What kind of ridicule and consequences do you think Stroud will face concerning his publicly announced belief in Bigfoot?

Will Cable TV channels drop him because he is a believer? Will shareholders demand that he be dropped because he believes? Will friends and family shun him?
 
Or will he find that the bigfoot gravy train has played out and passed him by?

Stay tuned!
 
Mister Earl said:
I like Les Stroud. I've said it before, but when Les Stroud comes, Bear Grylls hides. I dont' doubt there isn't some fluff material in there, as it invariably shows up in any sort of pseudoreality show, but it's quite thin where it exists.

That being said, if the Survivorman turns footer on me, I'll take 'em off my DVR.
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I am sorry Mister Earl, but he did go Bigfoot in a BIG way.
The first show last night was about setting up the next show.

Every Bigfoot sign was there;
tree sculptures (that actually points away from BF's :boggled:),
mashed down ground cover that was a BF footprint for sure (@ABP he used deniability phrases, "it won't look like what I see" bwahahaha!)
then, they hear a "whoop" while walking on the road.

Now that I think about it, they were always close to the road.

I will watch next week for the laughs!
Every sign of Bigfoot. :rolleyes:
Sigh.....
 
I think that a subtle irony comes when the public accepts that Bigfoot is a mythical creature. People like Les Stroud end up being celebrated and grab attention instead of being ridiculed and ostracized. Claims of Bigfoot activity become charming and even welcomed.

Programs like Survivorman and Finding Bigfoot will be watched and loved by millions because we love Bigfoot as a myth and we want more of it. Only the nerdiest of skeptics will go after Bigfooters because apparently they don't like the beloved myth. The skeptic becomes the idiot at the party because he proclaims that "Bigfoot doesn't live in the woods and Santa Claus doesn't live at the North Pole."

The irony.
 
William Parcher said:
I think that a subtle irony comes when the public accepts that Bigfoot is a mythical creature. People like Les Stroud end up being celebrated and grab attention instead of being ridiculed and ostracized. Claims of Bigfoot activity become charming and even welcomed.

Programs like Survivorman and Finding Bigfoot will be watched and loved by millions because we love Bigfoot as a myth and we want more of it. Only the nerdiest of skeptics will go after Bigfooters because apparently they don't like the beloved myth. The skeptic becomes the idiot at the party because he proclaims that "Bigfoot doesn't live in the woods and Santa Claus doesn't live at the North Pole."

The irony.
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Where does this leave the True Believer™ ?
 
LOL. Or putting a Zagnut candy bar on a stump and coming back to find it gone.

Really, true believers should have an extremely difficult time gaining special recognition. This is because the pretend true believers are amazingly convincing and a good distinction cannot be readily found.
 
Well I just watched the first episode, and it just seemed like more of the same old finding bigfoot/bf bounty non-evidence, only with a new guy being amazed by it.

I like Stroud, and I know he's got to make it interesting to make a show, but piles of sticks really aren't all that compelling. Obviously, without the sticks all you're left with is vague tracks in the moss left by something maybe, and the same bumps in the night that terrify every Cub Scout troop ever. It was just boring.
 
I wonder if the role players can tell the true believers from the rest? Does the desperate need for bigfoot to be real carry an unmistakable funk?

If BFF's Mulder is any indication, then the spittle ought to give it away at once.
 
Pterodactyl said:
Well I just watched the first episode, and it just seemed like more of the same old finding bigfoot/bf bounty non-evidence, only with a new guy being amazed by it.

I like Stroud, and I know he's got to make it interesting to make a show, but piles of sticks really aren't all that compelling. Obviously, without the sticks all you're left with is vague tracks in the moss left by something maybe, and the same bumps in the night that terrify every Cub Scout troop ever. It was just boring.
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Well I need to see a blurry picture of a brown something before I'll believe.
 
dawgma said:
Les Stroud...More credibility

...The point of the story is that most in the field are quite batty and Les is a much better source of accurate information if we are to go there...
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He has wandered from any accuracy.

We know him to be a credible and reliable person in what he does and being that he is not even really a Bigfoot believer, he comes forth as more credible than those who go out into the woods deliberately hunting it. That is the point of the article. A credible NON believer who knows how to track and survive in the wilderness, going out and seeing whats there. Being a skeptic, you would think you would want an unbiased person out there, instead of an idiot Boboo, who every tree knock is a Sasquatch
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Les is not a non-Believer and you are not one either.

And by the way, Les is just as skeptical as all of you,
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No.

In Les we have a rational person doing the looking
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No, he's been outed as a non-rational player.

It is no drama
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Yes it is and so are you. You came to JREF for no other reason than to post in this thread. You came to say that Les is just like we are and that Les is now looking for Bigfoot because of what he saw and heard. He is not like me (and I think I can say "us") because he is not thinking rationally about Bigfoot.

He is able to be within 50 yards of a huge apeman making gorilla sounds that has not been confirmed to exist for over 400 years. The guy got 50 yards away from that? Doesn't Stroud understand that if he can get that close that this beast would have been confirmed centuries ago?

Dawgma, your appearance here is just to prop up a fellow Bigfooter. Nogard did the exact same thing for Rick Dyer.
 
Hahahaha! I saw it. I suppose he can pass off lying under the rubric of being an entertainment show.

The most obvious lie was repeating "I am a sceptic" while urging people to accept Gigantopithecus is running around.

The broken trees though, amazing. Worse than I thought. In a forest? Broken trees? Structures? Oh yes, amazing.

We get them in years when there is a mix of rain/snow/slush that produces really heavy loads on the trees because it doesn't shed off like dry snow. The very worst is when it happens and the leaves are still out. It produces whole forests of bent-over and snapped trees.

The spruce bark beetle infection along with winds made ghastly impenetrable fields of "structures" like that in the conifers up here too. Conifers also get these wounds when they are saplings and as they grow it makes this diamond-shaped dead/rotten spot at the base that gets ants housing themselves in there weakening them to the point the wind snaps them.

All these reasons and more as to why you would find trees down in a forest, jumbled together as they showed.
 
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