Left Wing Media

Tony said:


How was that a strawman post?
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Liberals think draft-dodging is okay to do. They think that criminals don't need to be punished, only understood.
Liberals think that drug use is okay, because they all did it in the hippie days.


Those aren't liberal views, nor are they the platform of the Democratic party. They are strawmen erected by opponents.
 
Tony said:


Dennis Leary played the dissenter who was exiled to the sewers because he disagreed with liberal authoritarian establishment.
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Now now, you wouldn't be using any stereotypes in making that claim?
 
Well Hollywood is controled by the jews. And the jews are usually liberal. ;)
 
Cleon said:


I dunno, you could go either way on that one. I mean, you get fined for swearing? No sex? (Liberals are not exactly against sex, here.) Everyone forced into one monoculture, with no regard for diversity?
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Demolition Man just takes the attitude that thinks things that are “bad” should be regulated, taxed and/or restricted to its logical conclusion. Once you open the door to government restriction on "bad" things, you open the door to more restriction on "bad" things to the point where everything is illegal. Sadly, thanks to both "liberals" and conservatives, that is the direction in which we are moving.
 
daenku32 said:


Now now, you wouldn't be using any stereotypes in making that claim?
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I didn't make a claim, I was just describing the guys character for Nyarlathotep .
 
Silicon said:


Liberals think draft-dodging is okay to do. They think that criminals don't need to be punished, only understood.
Liberals think that drug use is okay, because they all did it in the hippie days.


Those aren't liberal views, nor are they the platform of the Democratic party.
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Boy, "liberals" are sounding more and more like conservatives everyday.
 
Tony said:


I didn't make a claim, I was just describing the guys character for Nyarlathotep .
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In all fairness, that's all I took his post for too. And I was the one that claimed that the future in Demolition Man represented a "liberal dystopia", not Tony.
 
Tony said:


Noy, "liberals" are sounding more and more like conservatives everyday.
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Funny how libs an cons seem to flip around alot.

Like Iraq. The Cons are the bleading hearts who want to help the poor abuse Iraqis. The Libs would rather be isolationists.
The Cons are spending money like crazy, the Libs are complaining about moeny going to foreign nations.. ITS BIZZARO WORLD!
 
One movie that is also non-biased in favor of liberals is A Few Good Men. I especially like it because it isn't biased in favor of conservatives, either. It shows that political/social issues are not always one sided in regards to moral high ground. All the characters, From Kevin Pollacks character who hated the soldiers on trial because they beat up and killed someone smaller and weaker than themselves, to Jack Nicholson's character who pointed out in the movies final scene that sometimes people like him are needed to keep everyone else safe, made very good points as to why they acted as they did. It would have been very easy to paint either side in that movie as "good" and the other side as "bad", but they didn't. Hollywood seems fond of painting such things in very black and white terms, and I find it commendable that they didn't in the case of this movie.

It was also just a darn good movie, but this is the wrong subforum for that.

:D
 
Also written by Aaron Sorkin.

Fans of A Few Good Men, The West Wing and The American President should catch Sports Night, on DVD.

MAN that was a well-written show.
 
Silicon said:
Also written by Aaron Sorkin.

Fans of A Few Good Men, The West Wing and The American President should catch Sports Night, on DVD.

MAN that was a well-written show.
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Great show, I liked it very much. I really like the episode that dealt with gun control and showed that there were two sides to the story. Well, to a degree. William H. Macy's charachter who owns a gun is also a member of Handgun Control Inc.

It was still good.
 
On an episode of the West Wing (back when it was good), a republican character made a great point about gun control, that went un-bested by the liberal Rob Lowe character.

Ainsley Hays, the thinly-veiled (but much smarter) Ann Coulter clone, had this to say:

"Your gun control policy doesn't have anything to do with public safety, and it's certainly not about personal freedom. It's about, you don't like the people who do like guns You don't like the people. Think about that the next time you make a joke about the South."

Another Ainsley quote:

"This White House that feels that government is better for children than parents are. That looks at 40 years of degrading and humiliating free lunches, handed out in a spectacularly failed effort to level the playing field, and says 'Let's try 40 more'. This White House that says of anyone that points that out to them that they are cold and mean and racists, and then accuses the Republicans of using the politics of fear. This White House that loves the Bill of Rights, all of them - except the second one."




Yep, that show used to be good when it pulled no punches.
 
Silicon said:
On an episode of the West Wing (back when it was good), a republican character made a great point about gun control, that went un-bested by the liberal Rob Lowe character.

Ainsley Hays, the thinly-veiled (but much smarter) Ann Coulter clone, had this to say:

"Your gun control policy doesn't have anything to do with public safety, and it's certainly not about personal freedom. It's about, you don't like the people who do like guns You don't like the people. Think about that the next time you make a joke about the South."

Another Ainsley quote:

"This White House that feels that government is better for children than parents are. That looks at 40 years of degrading and humiliating free lunches, handed out in a spectacularly failed effort to level the playing field, and says 'Let's try 40 more'. This White House that says of anyone that points that out to them that they are cold and mean and racists, and then accuses the Republicans of using the politics of fear. This White House that loves the Bill of Rights, all of them - except the second one."

Yep, that show used to be good when it pulled no punches.
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I wish I had been more patient. Like I said, the production values, acting and editing were excellent. My loss.
 
Randfan

When you say 'media' what do you mean? Are we talking movies/TV shows or the nightly news? To me, there is a vast difference; an apples and oranges comparison. One is vastly more important than the other.

In my mind, it's like discussing the inadequacies of the scientific community and then siting Star Trek for an example.;)
 
cbish said:
Randfan

When you say 'media' what do you mean? Are we talking movies/TV shows or the nightly news? To me, there is a vast difference; an apples and oranges comparison. One is vastly more important than the other.

In my mind, it's like discussing the inadequacies of the scientific community and then siting Star Trek for an example.;)
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In my opening post I specifically excluded news. However a few people have brought it up and I didn't feel compelled to redirect them.

I'm talking about Telivision and Movies. But I wouldn't mind any other discussion about popular culture or any other form of media.
 
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