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skyrider44 said:
In other words, you have no respect for anyone who thinks differently than you do.
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Hello, skyrider44:

Are you back to post that list of the anachronisms from the BoM that have, by means of practical., empirical, physical evidence attested to by neutral scholars, been demonstrated to have existed in the pre-Colombian Americas?
 
skyrider44 said:
In other words, you have no respect for anyone who thinks differently than you do.
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There have been 118 posts and seven days since AdMan made the post you are responding to. Please tell us why AdMan's post was so important out of all those posts that you selected it to respond to. After that I am sure you'll want to respond to Slowvehicle's question in 5323.

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skyrider44 said:
A devine ring, huh? Gosh, I wouldn't know what to call it.
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you needlessly harp on a simple misspelling. In other words, your contribution to the topic of this thread, namely "LDS" has been nonexistent.

Can we conclude that you are quite unable to answer any question regarding your own religion?
 
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skyrider44 said:
In other words, you have no respect for anyone who thinks differently than you do.
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For the record, I have no problem respecting people who come to different conclusions from me about all manner of things, provided they did so honestly.

I have no respect for people who wilfully ignore overwhelming empirical evidence so that they can continue to believe that they are special.
 
RandFan said:
I understand the conjecture. By forgoing earthly pleasures one prepares for spiritual truths through sacrifice. It's long been a staple of Eastern and Western philosophies. And it seems that there is some science behind it (it can result in visions or rather, delusions, hallucinations, and changes in physiology). It's often associated with meditation and for many is seen as requisite for the transforming benefits of meditation. At least that's what I remember.
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Any longer than a day, and fasting makes you really passive and unable to think clearly, while at the same time making you feel floaty and "lucid"... also, starving people seem to have deep and soulful eyes... just like cows.

(I haven't looked into this thread in weeks.... can't stomach all that "copypasta" :p)

(In fact, I only came in now because I saw on the New Posts page that Pixel42 had just posted in here, and I wanted to see what she had to say... or he?)
 
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asydhouse said:
(In fact, I only came in now because I saw on the New Posts page that Pixel42 had just posted in here, and I wanted to see what she had to say... or he?)
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She. And I don't think what I had to say was worth being sucked back into this thread for (though what RandFan and others have to say might be). The frustration factor is high in this one.
 
skyrider44 said:
In other words, you have no respect for anyone who thinks differently than you do.
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Irrational beliefs are still irrational, no matter where they're coming from.

I respect people, but I need not respect their irrational beliefs. The burden of proof is on them to show the beliefs are rational, unless they admit it's just a matter of faith, and then I owe the beliefs no respect beyond that. You can believe whatever religious crap you want to believe; I can point out how the beliefs are irrational.
 
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Pixel42 said:
She. And I don't think what I had to say was worth being sucked back into this thread for (though what RandFan and others have to say might be). The frustration factor is high in this one.
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Yes, I checked out the last two pages, and as ever Randfan's observations are a refreshing perspective on it all. I have great respect for him as a person of integrity who extracted himself from the basket of lies he was raised in. He is a sign of hope that people can grow and change their minds even after the depth of indoctrination he had been subjected to growing up immersed in Mormon culture.

The antithesis to Janadele's abdication of mind.

In fact, I salute all you patient people offering counters to the boring repetitive nothing coming from the LDS in here. (I mean the church when I say LDS... I'm aware that some members are less mindless than others, as (Mrs Pup?) showed many pages ago when I was last lurking here, many weeks ago.)

You are all more mature than I! :D
 
asydhouse said:
Yes, I checked out the last two pages, and as ever Randfan's observations are a refreshing perspective on it all. I have great respect for him as a person of integrity who extracted himself from the basket of lies he was raised in. He is a sign of hope that people can grow and change their minds even after the depth of indoctrination he had been subjected to growing up immersed in Mormon culture.
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Agreed.

asydhouse said:
The antithesis to Janadele's abdication of mind.
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"abdication of mind" a very apt phrase.
asydhouse said:
In fact, I salute all you patient people offering counters to the boring repetitive nothing coming from the LDS in here. (I mean the church when I say LDS... I'm aware that some members are less mindless than others, as (Mrs Pup?) showed many pages ago when I was last lurking here, many weeks ago.)
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Yep, There are those of a more thoughtful, enlightened nature, Mrs Pup being one.

asydhouse said:
You are all more mature than I! :D
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Don't undersell yourself. You are as good, or mature as anyone else.
 
deaman said:
Incredible! The "most perfect book on Earth", needs a little fixin' every now and then.
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Which is what Joseph Smith said God told him was wrong with all the other religions.
Based on how the LDS church was founded it CANNOT change one single word of Joseph Smith's writings because doing so proves the entire thing is a fraud.

"Our whole strength rests on the validity of that (first) vision. It either occured or it did not occur. If it did not, then this work is a fraud." - Gordon B. Hinckley, 2002 & 2005
Grant Palmer - An Insider's View of Mormon Origins
 
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skyrider44 said:
A devine ring, huh? Gosh, I wouldn't know what to call it.
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All you focus on is the little mistaken, misspelling of divine?

So why "would", or "wouldn't" you accept my words, about the divine ring?

What reasoning would you apply?
 
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deaman said:
Suppose I said I had a devine ring. All you had to do is wear it, and no misfortune will befall you.

What would you call that? And please, be honest.

skyrider44 said:
A devine ring, huh? Gosh, I wouldn't know what to call it.
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Semantic games.

Merriam Webster said:
Magic: an extraordinary power or influence seemingly from a supernatural source.
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Merriam Webster said:
Superstition: belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation
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Merriam Webster said:
Divine: of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God or a god
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Hint "god" = supernatural source.
 
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