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As for Janadele risking her health, well, that would mean she was actually fasting for as long as she says the way she says. So...well...my money goes on her coming through her "fast" just fine.

Especially when the fasting includes liquid food and daily nutritional supplements :rolleyes:


Seventeenth day of my fast and feeling great :-)

Still having only filtered water from the foil pack, occasional coconut water, or an occasional warm filtered water with a little apple cider vinegar with taste of honey. Krill oil and Q10 capsule daily.

Sounds like breathearians getting "occasional" snacks, just for the taste :p
 
This is ... a serious derail of this thread. This is the LDS thread. Not "What I did on my holidays", which tome went on to foment revolution in a certain place and time.


I asked the question, in an effort to get a straight answer to something out of Janadele. You'll note that I succeeded. :p
 
Well, this is Yahweh, so we all know he's a creep of the first water to begin with. He also expects people to ignore their sex drives, despite having given them to us in the first place, and he loves us so much that if we don't do what he says he'll torture us for eternity. Delightful chap.

Yeah, "delightful chap" being a polite euphemism for "sadistic bastard".

I think fasting is supposed to bring you closer to god, or make you aware of your blessings, or something, but it sure never worked for me. I just got crabby and obsessed with how long it was until I could eat again. I like my foodstuffs as much as the original Empress of Blandings Castle from whom I stole my nick.

I'll go with getting closer to Mother Nature: a mountain lake and a picnic basket of goodies. Sure fire way to make anyone aware of their blessings without senseless torture. :)
 
I'll go with getting closer to Mother Nature: a mountain lake and a picnic basket of goodies. Sure fire way to make anyone aware of their blessings without senseless torture. :)

:)

I think I need to swing by South Carolina on my way to the Smokies in June. That outing sounds just perfect.
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As for Janadele risking her health, well, that would mean she was actually fasting for as long as she says the way she says. So...well...my money goes on her coming through her "fast" just fine.

I concur. Given her tendency to grandstand and brag about her faith instead of discussing it. I'm not inclined to believe anything she says about what she's actually doing. It's pretty clear to me that she's more interested in the appearance of religious superiority than in actually living any of the tenants of her alleged faith.

Personally, I still suspect she's not actually Mormon, but is in fact trying to mock Mormons by making them look comically inept, lazy and brainwashed. I'm glad actual Mormons, both current and former, have entered the thread to counter her bad example.
 
Originally Posted by skyrider44
I also can't help but wonder if some of those same posters would refer to the small box orthodox Jews bind to their foreheads as "magic headgear." The box, called a tefillin, contains verses from the Torah written on parchment. Those verses are sacred to many Jews.
I did even while I wore them.
 
From Pup's quote in #5253:

If longer fasting is required of us, they will so direct us.

This bothers me more than the fasting itself. It says, "Don't think! Do as you're told! Be good little, obedient sheep!"

Gawd, what a disgusting message.
 
A couple of factoids on the LDS church and fasting.

From the Family Home Evening Resource Book at LDS.org:


“Sometimes Latter-day Saints think that if it is good to fast for 24 hours, it is three times as good to fast for 72 hours. Healthwise nothing could be farther from the truth. Missionaries, especially, must have strength to carry out their work and should not over-indulge in fasting anymore than in food-faddism. Let’s follow the counsel of our leaders ‘that food and drink are not to be partaken of for twenty-four hours. …’ If longer fasting is required of us, they will so direct us.” (Lindsay R. Curtis, M.D., “Questions and Answers,” New Era, Apr. 1977, p. 49.)


From the Gospel Principles book, which is the Sunday School manual for potential converts who are attending services to see what the church is like:

From the Gospel Principles book, which is the Sunday School manual for potential converts who are attending services to see what the church is like:
Our purpose in fasting should not be to impress others.

The Lord counseled:

“Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast.

“Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

“But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face; that thou appear not unto men to fast” (Matthew 6:16–18).

We should be cheerful when we fast and not advertise our fasting to others.

Nice one, Pup, on SO many levels!
 
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From Pup's quote in #5253:

This bothers me more than the fasting itself. It says, "Don't think! Do as you're told! Be good little, obedient sheep!"

Gawd, what a disgusting message.

While I dislike that kind of religious order as much as anyone, I think you're reading the tone out of context. Obviously, by definition, every directive of religion is by fiat, but skipping two meals (that's what they consider a 24-hour fast) isn't the kind of thing that the LDS church is particularly heavy-handed about. I think the above quote is meant to be read: If longer is better, God will tell us, but he hasn't told us, so it isn't, so don't claim it is.

Here's the quote directly above that one, at the same link:

The Lord has instituted the fast on a reasonable and intelligent basis, and none of his works are vain or unwise. His law is perfect in this as in other things. Hence, those who can, are required to comply thereto; it is a duty from which they cannot escape; but let it be remembered that the observance of the Fast Day by abstaining twenty-four hours from food and drink is not an absolute rule, it is no iron-clad law to us, but it is left with the people as a matter of conscience, to exercise wisdom and discretion. Many are subject to weakness, others are delicate in health, and others have nursing babies; of such it should not be required to fast. Neither should parents compel their little children to fast. I have known children to cry for something to eat on fast day. In such cases, going without food will do them no good. Instead, they dread the day to come, and in place of hailing it, dislike it; while the compulsion engenders a spirit of rebellion in them, rather than a love for the Lord and their fellows. Better teach them the principle, and let them observe it when they are old enough to choose intelligently, than to so compel them.” (Joseph F. Smith, Gospel Doctrine, 5th ed. [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1939], pp. 243, 244.)
 
The 141st Temple of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was dedicated on 17 March, 2013. This is the first LDS Temple in Honduras, the sixth in Central America.
The Tegucigalpa Honduras Temple will serve approximately 233,000 members of the Church in Honduras and Nicaragua. Five other temples in Central America are in Guatemala City, Guatemala (dedicated in 1984); San José, Costa Rica (2000); Panama City, Panama (2008); San Salvador, El Salvador (2011); and Quetzaltenango, Guatemala (2011). Further details at http://www.lds.org/?lang=eng
 
The 141st Temple of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was dedicated on 17 March, 2013. This is the first LDS Temple in Honduras, the sixth in Central America.


I'm surprised someone didn't ride down there on his horse-drawn chariot millenia ago to start one up.

Will this new temple thingy be doing anything towards shedding some light on why Joseph Smith lied through his teeth about having translated the Book of Abraham from a fragmentary copy of the Book of Going Forth by Day?
 
And?
http://www.pewforum.org/Christian/E...Overview-Pentecostalism-in-Latin-America.aspx

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8597681.stm
"The Pentecostal word has spread explosively here in the past 40 years. Estimates suggest that over four in 10 now follow the faith in Guatemala. And the same thing is happening across Central America - traditionally a bastion of Catholicism. "

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What do you really think this means, Janadele?
Other than that the LDS is brazen enough to peddle the BoM to the very area they think figures in Smith's translation of the golden tablets?
 
The 141st Temple of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was dedicated on 17 March, 2013. This is the first LDS Temple in Honduras, the sixth in Central America.
The Tegucigalpa Honduras Temple will serve approximately 233,000 members of the Church in Honduras and Nicaragua. Five other temples in Central America are in Guatemala City, Guatemala (dedicated in 1984); San José, Costa Rica (2000); Panama City, Panama (2008); San Salvador, El Salvador (2011); and Quetzaltenango, Guatemala (2011). Further details at http://www.lds.org/?lang=eng

So what ?
 
The 141st Temple of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was dedicated on 17 March, 2013. This is the first LDS Temple in Honduras, the sixth in Central America.
The Tegucigalpa Honduras Temple will serve approximately 233,000 members of the Church in Honduras and Nicaragua. Five other temples in Central America are in Guatemala City, Guatemala (dedicated in 1984); San José, Costa Rica (2000); Panama City, Panama (2008); San Salvador, El Salvador (2011); and Quetzaltenango, Guatemala (2011). Further details at http://www.lds.org/?lang=eng

When you look at the challenges facing that region I'd have to say that a lack of facilities to spread lies and fraud would not be their most pressing problem.
 
The 141st Temple of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was dedicated on 17 March, 2013. This is the first LDS Temple in Honduras, the sixth in Central America.
The Tegucigalpa Honduras Temple will serve approximately 233,000 members of the Church in Honduras and Nicaragua. Five other temples in Central America are in Guatemala City, Guatemala (dedicated in 1984); San José, Costa Rica (2000); Panama City, Panama (2008); San Salvador, El Salvador (2011); and Quetzaltenango, Guatemala (2011). Further details at http://www.lds.org/?lang=eng

Who the **** cares about any of this?
 
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