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The 8:30–12:00 stuff? Meh, I can't say that's not wolves. It sounds pretty human, but it could just as easily be weird wolf calls. To add an additional wrinkle, there are probably more folks out there in northern Minnesota imitating wolves to get them to respond than there are bigfooters call-blasting or trying to scam each other.
 
The Shrike said:
I remember listening to this audio some time ago. I can't see what's so surprising about wolves doing their thing in northern Minnesota. I also don't understand why people think all wolves should sound alike. My dog doesn't sound like my neighbor's dog. Tom Waits doesn't sound like Bruno Mars . . .
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To expand Shrike's point further, all animals that vocalize will come up with sounds that unless you were watching them - you wouldn't believe it was them making that sound.
 
Somewhat topical...

Researchers can now identify individual wolves by their howl with 100% accuracy.

Wolf howl identification technology excites experts

The team from Nottingham Trent University, UK, developed a computer program to analyse the vocal signatures of eastern grey wolves. Wolves roam huge home ranges, making it difficult for conservationists to track them visually.

But the technology could provide a way for experts to monitor individual wolves by sound alone. "Wolves howl a lot in the wild," said PhD student Holly Root-Gutteridge, who led the research.

"Now we can be sure... exactly which wolf it is that's howling."
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And...

Audio software identifies rainforest life

Scientists have found a new way to identify the animals that live in a rainforest. A team from Puerto Rico has developed technology that can analyse audio recordings and automatically recognise creatures by the sounds they make.

The researchers said the software would make monitoring the life found in tropical ecosystems faster and easier for biologists.
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Sounds like guy(s) making ape-like sounds. I'd still disagree with anyone arguing that all we hear are wolf/coyote. Have you already presented this audio to any genuine wolf biologist or researcher? If not, why?
 
William Parcher said:
Sounds like guy(s) making ape-like sounds. I'd still disagree with anyone arguing that all we hear are wolf/coyote. Have you already presented this audio to any genuine wolf biologist or researcher? If not, why?
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To my knowledge, no. Do you know a wolf biologist? I don't.

It has been analyzed here:

http://youtu.be/pmWXp3jAKoI

I would still be interested in hearing why you conclusively believe this is a hoax.
 
The hoaxer(s) sounds like he is inside a 55 gallon steel drum. This probably is a simple device/tool held up to the mouth to amplify and distort the sounds he is making. The guy is trying his best not to sound like a wolf and instead sound like a wild ape-man.

It worked for me. Not wolves. :D
 
Really, you could just record any night sounds you want and play with them in Pro Tools.

Any sound at all actually.

Where's calebprime when you need him?
 
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I created this last year and thought I would throw it out here.

Profile: Hoaxer

Baseline-
With the advent of social media and portals such as Youtube, hoaxers have access to a virtual unlimited audience. This access provides added incentive to continue the hoax and increase the recognition. Recognition is the key element to a hoax and is the driving component which ties them all together.

I. Classification of hoaxers-
Professional: This level of hoaxer is motivated by the possibility of obtaining a profit from the hoax. The professional tends to have a high level of understanding of the subject matter and will go to extensive lengths to produce a believable and convincing incident. The incident will receive a very high level of scrutiny and will need to be able to withstand a critical analysis by others with knowledge of the subject. Since the motivation is profit and the professional knows the hoax will eventually be discovered as a ruse, obtaining the profit quickly will be a key. The hoaxer will seek a source willing to pay for exclusive access to the incident, probably with a local or national news organization. The professional will hold themselves out as an expert on the subject and profess to have an extensive background, which will add credibility to the incident. Credibility is a key to being able to sell the incident to an unsuspecting audience.

Serial: The serial hoaxer is motivated more by obtaining attention than by the possibility of obtaining a profit. The attention garnered can be either positive or negative. This person will attempt to hide behind a false identity and use many aliases since quantity is more important to ensure the lineage can be continued. Timing of the release of the incident to the public will be quick. The method of exposure will be to the widest possible audience.

Silly: This level has no regard for sophistication and is only motivated by getting a laugh. The hoax is usually obvious and ultimately harmless to the cause. The hoaxer does not try and hide behind an alias and will publish multiple incidents. The release will be sporadic and usually on a medium that is easiest to access.

Warhol: This level of hoaxer is only seeking recognition and the attention that comes with it. They are looking for their 15 minutes of fame and are not seeking to profit and have no intention of doing it in the future.

Nefarious: The level of hoaxer has a grudge with a person or the subject and intends harm to the overall reputation by perpetrating a sophisticated hoax that will eventually be revealed. The hoax will be in line with the professional hoaxer by obtaining acceptance by the community and then coming clean with the intent to discredit the entire group. The release will be to a very narrow audience where immediate acceptance can be obtained allowing for a high degree of credibility.

II. Types of Incidents-
• Video
• Still Pictures:
• Prints or impressions (Foot, Hand, Body)
• Stick Structures
• Audio
• Eyewitness Testimony
• Biological Evidence (Hair, Saliva, Scat, Skin)

III. Type of Hoax-
Direct: This approach has the hoaxer fabricating the incident and releasing it for consumption.

Indirect: This approach has the hoaxer fabricating the incident and having a third party view it and ultimately report it. This method is reliant upon the third party to act upon what was witnessed and removes the hoaxer from the incident and all trails leading to them.

IV. Target Audience-
General populace: This approach allows for the greatest coverage only requiring a single individual to witness the hoax and release it for consumption.

Specific Individual: This method will focus the incident at locations the hoaxer knows an individual will frequent. Since recognition is needed by the individual, the hoaxer will have knowledge of the individual’s schedule along with the location.

V. Analysis-
In the event of an incident, analysis needs to be done based upon varying factors to determine whether a hoax exists or if the evidence is plausible for an actual event.
 
Which hoaxer type is the 'Bigfoot expert'?

An example: I am a Bigfoot expert, I find an impression in the ground that is made by a normal animal, but I rationalize a few variables, and get some experts to testify with me that it is an impression of a Bigfoot.

Which kind of hoaxer is that?

Would it be The Professional, with the Imprint in the woods?
 
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Drewbot said:
Which hoaxer type is the 'Bigfoot expert'?

An example: I am a Bigfoot expert, I find an impression in the ground that is made by a normal animal, but I rationalize a few variables, and get some experts to testify with me that it is an impression of a Bigfoot.

Which kind of hoaxer is that?

Would it be The Professional, with the Imprint in the woods?
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Anyone claiming to be an expert is lying. Some folks know more than others, but no one is an expert, yet.

But to answer your question, if they are intentionally holding something out as evidence when they truly know it is something other than a squatch, then it could be any of them. I would look at what they are trying to gain.
 
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