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OntarioSquatch said:
I'd imagine that feeling you get when you realize you got trolled by actual scientists is almost too much to bear. DWA doesn't have a lot of confidence in the animal's existence, but who can blame him though? He displays signs of intelligence, but when it comes to the evidence for Bigfoot, it sometimes goes out the window. If he were to see one tomorrow, I doubt he would be susceptible to such an amateur hoax.
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That's the daftest thing I've read this week coming from someone who thinks PGF is real LOL!
 
OntarioSquatch said:
DWA... displays signs of intelligence, but when it comes to the evidence for Bigfoot, it sometimes goes out the window.
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Sometimes?

He's like a giant snowplow, traveling full speed down the highway burying everything and anything in his path.

Can't argue against the lack of evidence? Bury the dissension.

Disagree with a proponent? Push 'em off the side of the highway.

Actual science? Plow it under.

Apparently he's the only one that knows the truth about bigfoot, because of his self-perceived intellectual superiority over... well... everyone. He also seems to be the only one who knows how bigfoot evidence should be obtained or presented.

It's like he's the Pope of the BFF -- infallible. And don't dare question his Holiness, or make fun of the Sacrament of Bigfootery (like the ACA joke video), lest you unleash his wrath. :D

RayG
 
RayG said:
lest you unleash his wrath.
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It must be leashed before it can be unleashed, and I never had an interaction with that boob in which he could keep his emotions in check. I did better with Huntster.

That goon is a consummate troll, and I delight in calling attention to his rather unhealthy fixation on a rather well known peeee-aitch-deeee bigfooter.
 
The belief that Bigfoot does and doesn't exist can both be religious in nature. This is what I think is happening here with DWA and GT/CS. It's no different from the belief in god. Whether what they believe is actually true or not is a whole different issue. This is why I suggest that if DWA were to see one, he would no longer need such obvious hoaxes to support his belief. He is more intelligent than that.
 
OntarioSquatch said:
The belief that Bigfoot does and doesn't exist can both be religious in nature.
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No, no, no. Faith is belief based on bad evidence. This is religion, and bigfootery. Reasonable belief is informed by reasonable evidence; this is why bigfoot belief is subject to mockery.
This is what I think is happening here with DWA and GT/CS. It's no different from the belief in god. Whether what they believe is actually true or not is a whole different issue. This is why I suggest that if DWA were to see one, he would no longer need such obvious hoaxes to support his belief. He is more intelligent than that.
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If obvious hoaxes inform your belief, your belief is poorly informed.
 
Just not believing/fence-sitting can't be religious. The active belief in something though, can be. The psychology displayed by both bigfoot-devoted skeptics and bigfoot-devoted proponents is basically the same.
 
There are some important differences between belief in God and BLAARGing, which is done by people who don't believe bigfoot in the first place.

The fear of death is perhaps the strongest human motivation there is. Thousands of years' history imprinted upon cultures that are so deeply rooted in our social practices - weddings, funerals, charity to the indigent, ancillary organizations like the boy scouts or alcohol/substance abuse programs, even bingo... these result in strong family and social pressures that are nonexistent with bigfoot.

The motivations for BLAARGing are quite different, it leaped into existence without a pre-history despite the lies being told about native legends. Has anyone noticed the Europeans are not natives and have been here for half a millennia? The 'footers themselves argue there is social pressure against belief in bigfoot.

It is precisely because bigfoot is so doubtful that makes it ideal for the BLAARGing game: you can bait people into engaging with you and lay all of these annoying logical fallacies upon them - run circles around people who have no training in dealing with this tool kit Bigfoot University inculcates. If you said that rabbits poop on the lawn, nobody would engage with you.

But again, the critical distinction is BLAARGers do not believe in bigfoot. It is a game. There are religious hucksters, sure. And there are people who go along with the social pressures and are Church members without faith. But BLAARGing as a general rule is by non-believers whereas active church goers as a general rule really do believe.
 
OntarioSquatch said:
Just not believing/fence-sitting can't be religious. The active belief in something though, can be. The psychology displayed by both bigfoot-devoted skeptics and bigfoot-devoted proponents is basically the same.
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No, it isn't.
Me said:
No, no, no. Faith is belief based on bad evidence. This is religion, and bigfootery. Reasonable belief is informed by reasonable evidence; this is why bigfoot belief is subject to mockery.
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OntarioSquatch said:
Just not believing/fence-sitting can't be religious. The active belief in something though, can be. The psychology displayed by both bigfoot-devoted skeptics and bigfoot-devoted proponents is basically the same.
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Only in your alternate reality that is the world according to OS ;)
 
OntarioSquatch said:
Just not believing/fence-sitting can't be religious. The active belief in something though, can be. The psychology displayed by both bigfoot-devoted skeptics and bigfoot-devoted proponents is basically the same.
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No it isn't. Is believing in fairies, or unicorns, or mermaids the same? Why or why not? Is somehow unicorn skepticism the same as unicornn belief?
 
RayG said:
Sometimes?

He's like a giant snowplow, traveling full speed down the highway burying everything and anything in his path.

Can't argue against the lack of evidence? Bury the dissension.

Disagree with a proponent? Push 'em off the side of the highway.

Actual science? Plow it under.

Apparently he's the only one that knows the truth about bigfoot, because of his self-perceived intellectual superiority over... well... everyone. He also seems to be the only one who knows how bigfoot evidence should be obtained or presented.

It's like he's the Pope of the BFF -- infallible. And don't dare question his Holiness, or make fun of the Sacrament of Bigfootery (like the ACA joke video), lest you unleash his wrath. :D

RayG
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His hits keep on coming though. His take on footer's burden of proof, and what proof is:

SameDumbass said:
No it's NOT. It is only on the proponents to lay virtual proof at the feet of science. This they have done.

Of course, scientists aren't taking up their obligation, so we have amateurs using their vacation time and weekends. Sorry skeptics. You are bringing this on yourselves. You'd get proof sooner if you had an ounce of curiosity. But that does not seem to be present. Does it.

BTW, the only proof I need is the scientists who say the shush-up-don't-talk-or-yer-fired has been done *to them.* As always: them over you.
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I guess he thinks shouting the same nonsense over and over makes it less nonsensical.
 
Again, the belief that Bigfoot doesn't exist isn't necessarily a religious one, except it can be. I don't think it's any coincidence that many of the people here are ex-proponents. Regardless of what they say, they aren't entirely sure that it doesn't exist, much like how DWA isn't entirely sure that it does.
 
OntarioSquatch said:
Again, the belief that Bigfoot doesn't exist isn't necessarily a religious one, except it can be.
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Except that it isn't at all. Repeating it over and over . . . see post above.

I don't think it's any coincidence that many of the people here are ex-proponents.
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The reason they are ex is . . ? You can do this.

Regardless of what they say, they aren't entirely sure that it doesn't exist, much like how DWA isn't entirely sure that it does.
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Not an ex-proponent but I'm entirely sure that the cryptid known as bigfoot doesn't exist.

My assurance doesn't mean diddly as to its non-existence however; that's a matter of all the negative evidence.
 
SameDumbass said:
No it's NOT. It is only on the proponents to lay virtual proof at the feet of science. This they have done.

Of course, scientists aren't taking up their obligation, so we have amateurs using their vacation time and weekends. Sorry skeptics. You are bringing this on yourselves. You'd get proof sooner if you had an ounce of curiosity. But that does not seem to be present. Does it.

BTW, the only proof I need is the scientists who say the shush-up-don't-talk-or-yer-fired has been done *to them.* As always: them over you.
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:D Let me get this right - as I know he doesn't write ironically - he's being apologetic to us for us waiting impatiently and un-curiously for proof of Bigfoot? Does he even know what a skeptic is? Does he know what a comedian is? He never fails to make me laugh.
 
HarryHenderson said:
:D Let me get this right - as I know he doesn't write ironically - he's being apologetic to us for us waiting impatiently and un-curiously for proof of Bigfoot? Does he even know what a skeptic is? Does he know what a comedian is? He never fails to make me laugh.
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There's never been an instance where I've said to myself "you know, he's got a point." Not once.

That's some sort of record.
 
It's the projection tactic again.

Our proponent has no evidence to submit. So the tactic is to say skeptics are just like believers.

This is fascinating for the denialism at the same time: I am not really saying they ARE the same, just that they CAN be.

If you believed in bigfoot, what you would be doing is going to SEE what you say is so often seen by rank amateurs. They can get within ten feet. Constantly harassed by bigfoot, with things thrown at them and so forth.

Since he doesn't believe, this is what he does. But I like him here. This is what we are studying. Not bigfoot, but the bigfoot gamers.
 
Resume said:
There's never been an instance where I've said to myself "you know, he's got a point." Not once.

That's some sort of record.
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Amazing huh! And yet there's an entire forum over there that not only hasn't banned the guy (for being a turd), but actually allows him to post and say stupid **** that they actually contemplate, apparently. Yes there's a reason he doesn't come over here and it's not because he's not smart, it's because he's stupid.
 
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