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Reference ABP's comments about Chris' inactivity and relative outdoor skills: it is quite likely that Chris exaggerates his skill level and experience, even if unintentionally. Many people do this. But that does not mean he is unskilled. I am not a hunter myself, nor an expert woodsman, so perhaps I am not the best judge, but my experience (quite extensive) with friends and extended family in Kentucky compared with Chris' comments here lead me to believe he is something near to how he describes himself.
 
He's good at identifying bird feathers....passed that test ;)
Being afraid of being out after dark on an established trail that he frequents often, hearing "things" behind us that I didn't, and mistaking a tree stump for "something" other than what it was.....not to mention his physical condition didn't really impress me as someone who spends alot of time outdoors...riding around in the car maybe....pounding the woods of Kentucky three days a week on foot nah....pounding a keyboard three hours a day seems more like the guy I met.
 
Cervelo said:
He's good at identifying bird feathers....passed that test ;)
Being afraid of being out after dark on an established trail that he frequents often, hearing "things" behind us that I didn't, and mistaking a tree stump for "something" other than what it was.....not to mention his physical condition didn't really impress me as someone who spends alot of time outdoors...riding around in the car maybe....pounding the woods of Kentucky three days a week on foot nah....pounding a keyboard three hours a day seems more like the guy I met.
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It may sound counter-intuitive, but that description does not, by itself, make me question his skills.

That said, I was not there and you were, so I will defer.
 
I don't know what is to be gained from criticizing Chris for his physical conditioning. The fact that somebody like ABP makes his living in the wilderness doesn't have any bearing on Chris's ability to find bigfoots in Kentucky, whether he hikes a mile in to find them or they're waiting for him at the edge of a parking lot.

The issue is that Chris is claiming to have encountered multiple bigfoots in a public use area that sees 2 million visitors per year. He doesn't get or doesn't want to get that many of those visitors include biologists conducting surveys for trees, forest insects, birds, large mammals, small mammals, amphibians, freshwater mussels, etc. Geologists - you know, the people who find fossils - are also continuously exploring the nooks and crannies of the region. If you spend your time exploring karst, you find bones.

All of this makes it even less likely for something like a bigfoot to go unnoticed in this study area than even in a well-studied national forest like the Squatchitas.
 
Garrette said:
It may sound counter-intuitive, but that description does not, by itself, make me question his skills.

That said, I was not there and you were, so I will defer.
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Well he professes to have exceptionally woodsmen eyesight as his example of seeing the deer's subtle movements in the woods....but then has to stop dead in his tracks to identify a tree stump.....yes you had to be there it was a WTF moment.

This is his trail that he knows well (supposedly) that stump has been in that little open area forever. He should be on a first name basis with that stump!
So either he's not revisiting the site of his hillside vid on a regular basis as he indicated to me or his confirmation bias is so bad something he should be rather familar with is worthy of bring our hike to a full stop to identify.
 
Migratory paths. LOL
An intelligent hominid would use bridges to cross rivers like say the Mississippi, Ohio, etc.
Funny how they are never caught unawares on a bridge.
 
carlitos said:
Signing an NDA to take a walk in a public park is a little overboard, imho.
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If I had known that prior to signing there would have been no signing or hike.
When I pulled up to the location I guess that was the first WTF moment.

The second was when Chris let me know he had brought a second handgun for me. I asked if he felt it was needed and he indicated he was bringing his.

Now I typically open carry when I'm out alone for a few days but not always.
So initially I was going to leave my weapon behind then I thought well I don't want to leave it in my soft top Jeep in case someone breaks into it....again this place is high traffic and I assumed Chris had reason for concern.

So off we went packing large to hunt the mighty stumpsquatch of Kentucy, I felt particular embarrassed about the weapons when we were hurrying to get out of the woods before it got really dark and met a family hiking in to their cook-out.
It's not so much that this area is or isn't remote it's the amount of traffic it gets again there's nothing undiscovered over 1lbs IMO at this location.
We also failed to warn then about stumpsquatch!
 
The Shrike said:
I don't know what is to be gained from criticizing Chris for his physical conditioning. The fact that somebody like ABP makes his living in the wilderness doesn't have any bearing on Chris's ability to find bigfoots in Kentucky, whether he hikes a mile in to find them or they're waiting for him at the edge of a parking lot.

The issue is that Chris is claiming to have encountered multiple bigfoots in a public use area that sees 2 million visitors per year. He doesn't get or doesn't want to get that many of those visitors include biologists conducting surveys for trees, forest insects, birds, large mammals, small mammals, amphibians, freshwater mussels, etc. Geologists - you know, the people who find fossils - are also continuously exploring the nooks and crannies of the region. If you spend your time exploring karst, you find bones.

All of this makes it even less likely for something like a bigfoot to go unnoticed in this study area than even in a well-studied national forest like the Squatchitas.
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I think it does have some bearing on the veracity of his claims and contributes to an overall picture IMO of someone who's either full of it or eat up with it.
He can't or won't support any of his claims
What he does present is pictures of trees...think Sasfooty
I drove to see his evidence and he may as well have taken me on a hike in any urban park.

When you meet someone face to face it makes a difference and there's a reason I spent no more time with Chris after our one adventure...I had better things to do with my time and if there was something to discover it wasn't going to happen with him in tow.
And as I've said before he's a nice guy in person and sometimes I struggle with that he's the same person posting here that I spent time with. But I'm sure the same could be said about me LOL!
Imagine your going to go birding/hiking/hunting and this guy shows up black jacket and two handguns...this is literally what I thought when we meet...Tony Saprano with a Kentucky accent!

It may not be fair to judge a book by its cover but in some cases it's warranted.
 
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carlitos said:
Signing an NDA to take a walk in a public park is a little overboard, imho.
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Ridiculous for such a thing on any public land managed for recreation.

As for packing large, it sounds like the trails are okay for concealed carry. That said, Cervelo's first-hand experience with Chris speaks volumes. Here's a guy so worried about the giant bigfoot monsters that he won't go near them unless he's in Dirty Harry mode, yet he makes no attempt to warn unprotected families to stay away?

Chris, how many young lives must be snuffed out by the bigfoots before you take action to keep unsuspecting families out of the squatchy areas? Why won't you think of the children?
 
To be fair, the picture Cervelo paints of ChrisB sounds typical of your average Southeastern US "outdoorsman". I think the way the term is used in this part of the country denotes a different lifestyle than you'd maybe picture if you lived elsewhere. Being normally clad in camo and living in a rural area is probably enough to qualify for the standard in this region. Also, I do some turkey hunting (not very well) and Im in pretty solid shape. I know some local older, husky guys who regularly bag 4 birds in 4 hunts. I'm simply not skilled enough to make this happen. So, I think there might simply be some miscommunication in terms of definition and application of the term, and also in the value of fitness and how outdoor skills are implemented in different activities.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
On the contrary, I've demonstrated to a skeptic nonetheless I see and hear very well, better than most in fact, and can identify wildlife at a glance. Try again. Chris B.
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ChrisBFRPKY said:
That's a great very specific, highly detailed, description of the area I took you through. First, let me say the decision of "where" we could go was highly limited due to you showing up on the opening day of deer season. For safety reasons and since this was the shortest trek to get to where I wanted to go, (an easy 6 miles total) this was obviously the best choice. Also, it was the location of the Hillside Bigfoot Family group video with available identifying markers from the video that could be witnessed and easily identified by you by simple comparison with the video. In retrospect, I'm certainly glad the choice of places to go was limited due to deer season. As you certainly made it well known. It seems my trust has been misplaced.

For some reason, you and others here seem to try and paint me as claiming I have some sort of highly remote area where no humans ever previously trekked before. This is ridiculous and highly dishonest of you. I have not and do not claim any such thing. I have said previously I study the Green River corridor at least 2 miles away from the nearest road. That's all that is required for a good chance at a sighting.

Yes the greater area has field Biologists but they're normally not sponsered or paid, most are either student volunteers from WKU or transient students seeking one of various degrees in biology. The best of of those focus on biological life in Karst formations IMO. There are a few medial programs available but most are overseen by WKU staff. I would tell you how I know but at this point your ability to keep anything confidential is certainly unworthy of the information.

Above you say: "Some of Chris's behavior during our time together would indicate to me his confirmation bias is off the scale and he could mistake virtually anything in the woods for Bigfoot"

Let's reflect a bit. I have no confirmation bias, what I have is a highly tuned ability to spot small movements and odd shapes in the woods. Do you remember the deer? Who saw his movement first? That's right, I did. After stopping in our tracks for the movement I spotted, you then spotted the buck after roughly 1 minute of scanning the area where I specified there was movement. Did I try to claim it was Bigfoot? Obviously not. What does this say about me? I'll give you a hint. You would have walked right up on that deer without seeing it beforehand and only learned of its presence when you watched it run away. I had time to observe. See how that works? I'm sure you're thinking of the tree stump now. Yes, while talking with you and being distracted from my task, I stopped when I caught a glimpse of a large dark object in my peripheral vision. Why? Because it was big and dark, kinda like what we were looking for. Of course the moment I turned my head I realized it was only a tree stump I chuckled and we moved on. Did I make it out to be anything it wasn't? Obviously not. How you get from that to "He could mistake virtually anything in the woods for Bigfoot" is beyond me and beyond reason.

You were being evaluated as well. I hope you were kidding when you asked what that deer scrape was. I also hope you were kidding when you snatched up that turkey feather and said it was from a red tailed hawk. Of course you didn't argue the point when I informed you it was actually a turkey feather. I knew you wanted to though. I didn't go into it then but I'll cover it now to ease your mind. In your defense nontheless. You see the reason for your mistake was largely due to the coloration of the feather. Aside from the massive difference of the shaft sizes which also made the ID simple at a glance, the two would have been of a similar color (so no points off there). The reason being is that the turkeys here are a mix. The population has a strong mixture of the Bronze breed bloodline with the wild turkey bloodline. This was largely due to the fact that some repopulated birds in the area came from farms. The Bronze breed is larger with a slightly different coloration. When the two are mixed sometimes that coloration comes out more in some birds than in others.

Again with the "Chris is afraid of the dark" thing. Please, I've probably spent more time in the woods without a light than you have with one. Getting out of the woods before dark is a safety issue. It is nonproductive to look for Bigfoot at night, bang on trees etc. The only thing that is good for is TV shows where you can pan the camera around to the faces of the individuals so they can ask "What was that?" while they portray a "pee in the pants" look. Nonsense.
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Chris, is Bigfoot not supposed to be largely nocturnal?
 
kitakaze said:
Chris, is Bigfoot not supposed to be largely nocturnal?
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They are also diurnal and crepuscular. They swim Puget Sound, run down caribou in Alaska, and bison in Yellowstone. They bounce on backyard trampolines, teach the little ones to slap houses, yet are so elusive as to confound confirmation. They **** in three foot segments, or not at all. They mimic all sorts of animal vocalizations (especially when you point out the alleged footie cry is a coyote) and may even possess proto-language.

If you think it, footie can be it. Because it's all made up.
 
Pterodactyl said:
To be fair, the picture Cervelo paints of ChrisB sounds typical of your average Southeastern US "outdoorsman". I think the way the term is used in this part of the country denotes a different lifestyle than you'd maybe picture if you lived elsewhere. Being normally clad in camo and living in a rural area is probably enough to qualify for the standard in this region. Also, I do some turkey hunting (not very well) and Im in pretty solid shape. I know some local older, husky guys who regularly bag 4 birds in 4 hunts. I'm simply not skilled enough to make this happen. So, I think there might simply be some miscommunication in terms of definition and application of the term, and also in the value of fitness and how outdoor skills are implemented in different activities.
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PT what's up....as you know I'm from Va. we still "road" hunt with dogs in my world so I've seen plenty of fat rednecks in camo fall out of their trucks and whezzz there way to retrieve dogs... I consider myself one at this point LOL!
But I've never gone hunting, camping or hiking with someone wearing a black leather jacket and tennis shoes and carrying two sidearms, if Chris has camo he wasn't wearing it that day, that's actually what I expected not the Soprano look!
He's was dressed more appropriately than I and certainly better armed for our rather pedestrian adventure.
Nope it doesn't take a world class athlete to walk 100yrds into the woods and sit down to hunt turkey....I'll be doing that very soon (spring gobbler season).

IMO it's pertinent to the conversation and Chris's unsupported claims and completes a picture of someone that doesn't seem to be anything more than Internet jockey yanking people's chains.
 
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GT/CS said:
So, what you're saying is that Chris is a typical 'footer.
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You know when you sit down with the guy eye to eye he seems very sincere and believeable. But then see how he conducts himself here and it's hard for me to believe its actually the same person....go figure!?!
I guess for me having had almost every single experience footers want to ascribe to Bigfoot, with two notable exceptions...never a sighting or track in my time kicking around the woods...it's hard for me to not step back and say "ok what was that most likley" or actually step up and investigate the "unknown" or just sit tight and have it reveal itself as some common animal.

I spent sometime with PT on my little adventure and we had an experience on a hike we took that if we were footers would have been a slam dunk "Bigfoot intimidation tree display"! Guess what we went towards the "action" and had a great laugh at footers expense.

My guess is most footers/knowers/beleeeeevvvers have very little outdoor experience and a very good imagination. They experience something they can't explain and out of ignorance jump to a silly conclusion. Then they get a little group think going with like minded people and walla you have a "footer"!

After that it gets a little weird...you either have people that go "hey this is what I experienced"...oh ok that was an owl or yote or they fall down the rabbit hole of can't be anything but Bigfoot.
Someone who comes to a skeptics fourm shoveling the manure that OS, Chris and their ilk....that's a whole other level of footer!
 
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