Latest Bigfoot "evidence"

[Cervelo]

I heard a nice loud stick break behind us worthy of notice. That's all. If you did not hear it, you're deaf. If you heard it and ignored it, you're typical of most hikers/hunters. I don't ignore stick breaks, that doesn't mean it's always a Bigfoot, it means something broke a stick and perhaps you should look around and try to determine "what" it was that did so. Perception is something that must be honed, without it you're simply stumbling thru the forest oblivious to nature. Stop and have a look sometime.
Chris B.

Ahhh the woodsmen resume card.....well all I can say is maybe my memory as well as my hearing and eyes are failing me. I don't remember any discussion about a stick break.

But speaking of memory...odd that you would leave out such a significant event in your first rendition of our hike above.
Also I'm not really sure how you could hear anything as hard as you were breathing on our "easy" hike. As I recall we stopped so you could catch your breath.

I would suggest your interpetation of people who spend time in the woods is alittle off. Most people who spend enough time in the woods instinctively know what's in or out of place in their environment...sort'a like being in your own house...you just know what looks right and what doesn't.

Your conduct in the woods reminded me of every novice hunter/hiker/camper I've introduced to those hobbies....worried about getting out of the woods before dark (you brought it up at least twice) hyper-senstive to their surroundings (saw the deer), hearing things following us that I didn't, concerned about identifying very common things in the woods (stumpsquatch?)...that's when I knew you had it bad (footie on the brain) and very little outdoor experience.

Based on my time with you that "easy" hike was an "epic" for you and not something you do very often.

What I do think you spend most of your time doing is this...

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

relevance?

Concentration of specific studies in specific areas (limited).

like hobos?

LOL well of a sort. There are facilities to accommodate non-resident students, the locals make the drive from home.

I sense that these comments were meant to downplay the amount of attention paid to biological inventory invested at the site, but I don't see how they could. "Yeah, this area has WKU students in it all the time, but what do they know?" Translation: the area is frequently visited by a demographic that can snap a photo with their phones before you can say "pickin' up paw-paw put 'em in my pocket."

Not at all. The studies are highly localized and highly specific though. The wildlife sounds recording project is a particular interest of mine.

I did a quick check on eBird (just one source of free information submitted by volunteers) and confirmed my suspicion that there are hundreds of checklists logged for the public area I assume we're talking about. Hundreds. The first location I selected had checklists submitted by two friends of mine, and it only took about two minutes to stumble upon a checklist from a third person who was camped out in my driveway this past December.

There are lots of birds in KY for sure, but most watchers I've encountered here generally stick to marked trails and limit their walking distances.
Chris B.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Ahhh the woodsmen resume card.....well all I can say is maybe my memory as well as my hearing and eyes are failing me. I don't remember any discussion about a stick break.

But speaking of memory...odd that you would leave out such a significant event in your first rendition of our hike above. Also I'm not really sure how you could hear anything as hard as you were breathing on our "easy" hike. As I recall we stopped so you could catch your breath.
I would suggest your interpetation of people who spend time in the woods is alittle off. Most people who spend enough time in the woods instinctively know what's in or out of place in their environment...sort'a like being in your own house...you just know what looks right and what doesn't.

Your conduct in the woods reminded me of every novice hunter/hiker/camper I've introduced to those hobbies....worried about getting out of the woods before dark (you brought it up at least twice) hyper-senstive to their surroundings (saw the deer), hearing things following us that I didn't, concerned about identifying very common things in the woods (stumpsquatch?)...that's when I knew you had it bad (footie on the brain) and very little outdoor experience.

Based on my time with you that "easy" hike was an "epic" for you and not something you do very often.

What I do think you spend most of your time doing is this...
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I'm not in the greatest health for sure. But I still do the mileage regardless. It may take me a bit longer but I get where I'm going and back. Yes that was the first time out since the previous Spring and I was very sore and stiff the next day. It takes me a few trips to build up my stamina after a few months of off time.

I have been kind. Regardless of the small stuff. If you wish to be unkind with unfavorable remarks about me that's fine. Untrue, but I kinda expect that from someone who's word is meaningless as you have clearly demonstrated. I entrusted you with info not available to the public, make no mistake it won't happen again. Chris B.

 

[dmaker]

Wouldn't a large animal be easier to track in the winter? From your comments, Chris, it seems like you do not go out in the winter. If so, is there a reason for that?

 

[Giordano]

On the contrary, I've demonstrated to a skeptic nonetheless I see and hear very well, better than most in fact, and can identify wildlife at a glance. Try again. Chris B.

You see better indeed With your discussions of the photos you've posted, you've demonstrated that you see things that aren't even there.

 

[River]

If I felt like Chris were being serious, and not just barking/Bs'in I'd recommend he perhaps seek a professional doctor to speak with about his encounters with bigfoot. Perhaps even allowing this doctor to see his "HD footage from 15 feet" that allegedly exists and get their professional opinion. If you are being serious Chris, and not just spinning yarn, please take my advice. It might be the best thing that ever happened to you.

 

[Cervelo]

I'm not in the greatest health for sure. But I still do the mileage regardless. It may take me a bit longer but I get where I'm going and back. Yes that was the first time out since the previous Spring and I was very sore and stiff the next day. It takes me a few trips to build up my stamina after a few months of off time.

I have been kind. Regardless of the small stuff. If you wish to be unkind with unfavorable remarks about me that's fine. Untrue, but I kinda expect that from someone who's word is meaningless as you have clearly demonstrated. I entrusted you with info not available to the public, make no mistake it won't happen again. Chris B.

Would you like alittle chesse with that whine?

 

[LTC8K6]

Researchers just recently photographed this extremely cute, endangered mammal for the first time in 20 years

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/researchers-just-recently-photographed-extremely-220837263.html

But no bigfoot...

 

[Nakani]

Nakami, thanks but I'm not interested in a Devil's advocate for this forum. I've previously invited cervelo from the forum. From what I understand from his time camping here and our one day short trek, he has reached the conclusion there are no Bigfoot creatures in KY and the area shown to him was impossible for Bigfoot to be in. I'm perfectly fine with his assessment as it is based on his limited time spent here. I'm not aware if he was able to investigate the then recent local Bigfoot sighting in Brownsville while he was here or not. I suspect he did not. However, I would not reasonably expect anyone to have a sighting the first time out. I haven't had a good sighting since 2010 and I'm out 3 times a week during peak season.
Chris B.

I think you misread my post, I was suggesting you show him your 15' video. Under a strict NDA he couldn't reveal any details, just that you do indeed have said video and mabee a comment or two about how it has changed his mind regarding the existence of Bigfoot.

This would end this useless, do so, do not, are so, are not arguing. Lets make some progress.

 

[Cervelo]

I think you misread my post, I was suggesting you show him your 15' video. Under a strict NDA he couldn't reveal any details, just that you do indeed have said video and mabee a comment or two about how it has changed his mind regarding the existence of Bigfoot.

This would end this useless, do so, do not, are so, are not arguing. Lets make some progress.

For you, I and most eveyone else that would be progress but for Chris it would be an end game. He's all about the do so, do not, that is his game.
It's the same BS game that Sasfooty and the Habs play at BFF we've all seen it before, the only part I don't get is playing it here....maybe he enjoys looking foolish on a daily basis.

 

[carlitos]

I see, so you have studied my video in great detail? See any movement?

Chris B.

You can't study something with no details "in detail."

BTW, you still seem to be unclear about special pleading. See your "nomadic" bigfeet theory for a classic example.

 

[The Shrike]

The studies are highly localized and highly specific though.

Did you miss the word "hundreds" in my post? I used it twice, and for a reason.

. . . but most watchers I've encountered here generally stick to marked trails and limit their walking distances.

1) I'm glad we can rely on you to describe the distribution and behavior of millions of people.
2) I'm assuming that you were on trails when you encountered birders on the trails. Was there any point at which you were off trail on those days? If so, why do you assume that the birders weren't also spending time off trail? Also, with many miles of trails crisscrossing this particular natural area, isn't that a much more likely place to encounter a bigfoot than noisily crashing through the mountain laurel?
and . . .
3) Not according to the distribution of those hundreds of checklists, and that's just one example of reporting that probably less than 25% of birders actually use.

You are woefully or willfully ignorant of the amount, duration, distribution, and history of biological inventory in this natural area.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Would you like alittle chesse with that whine?

Whine? I just point out that you are not a man of your word and not to be trusted. By revealing specific details you were trusted not to reveal, you have proven this to be a concrete fact for the masses here. Do you deny this is the case? Chris B.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

I think you misread my post, I was suggesting you show him your 15' video. Under a strict NDA he couldn't reveal any details, just that you do indeed have said video and mabee a comment or two about how it has changed his mind regarding the existence of Bigfoot.

This would end this useless, do so, do not, are so, are not arguing. Lets make some progress.

Sure, just like cervelo has maintained the NDA he signed. It's not gonna happen.
Fool me once. Chris B.

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

Yes that was the first time out since the previous Spring and I was very sore and stiff the next day.

I was logging 21 days out of the last two months. It is the most dangerous occupation in the country. I am doing it alone, miles from home, in the wilderness. There are no roads. I make my own trails. Every single tree requires a trail be hacked to it through deep snow so I can get my snow machine in and roll/lift logs with two foot diameter butts up onto a skidding sled.

If a little hike does that to you, there is no question this would kill you. I work in the dark too - you don't have much choice in the winter up here.

I don't have to make up imaginary animals because there are real ones.

BLAARGers are not outdoor enthusiasts, nor is there any kind of danger, hardship, or adventure in their lives. That is the reason they BLAARG. I've probably spent more time in just the last year in deep woods than you have your entire life.

It actually makes me feel bad to say that but what are we going to do in the face of deception like this? None of my pictures are fuzzy. My bear hides are fuzzy. I shot and skinned the ones with an attitude problem.

I "get" that when you don't have this in your life then an alternative is pretending. Seeing a deer, wow. For a lot of years I worked pretty hard getting up close to animals. I am past that now, it had some hazards, but I got to where I could kiss a moose on the lips. You need to have them living around you full time to do that and spend years working on it.

I think living this adventure in your own mind without any bona fide experience gets you saying things you don't realize are so far removed from reality.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Did you miss the word "hundreds" in my post? I used it twice, and for a reason.


1) I'm glad we can rely on you to describe the distribution and behavior of millions of people.
2) I'm assuming that you were on trails when you encountered birders on the trails. Was there any point at which you were off trail on those days? If so, why do you assume that the birders weren't also spending time off trail? Also, with many miles of trails crisscrossing this particular natural area, isn't that a much more likely place to encounter a bigfoot than noisily crashing through the mountain laurel?
and . . .
3) Not according to the distribution of those hundreds of checklists, and that's just one example of reporting that probably less than 25% of birders actually use.

You are woefully or willfully ignorant of the amount, duration, distribution, and history of biological inventory in this natural area.

Must be huh. Chris B.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

I was logging 21 days out of the last two months. It is the most dangerous occupation in the country. I am doing it alone, miles from home, in the wilderness. There are no roads. I make my own trails. Every single tree requires a trail be hacked to it through deep snow so I can get my snow machine in and roll/lift logs with two foot diameter butts up onto a skidding sled.

If a little hike does that to you, there is no question this would kill you. I work in the dark too - you don't have much choice in the winter up here.

I don't have to make up imaginary animals because there are real ones.

BLAARGers are not outdoor enthusiasts, nor is there any kind of danger, hardship, or adventure in their lives. That is the reason they BLAARG. I've probably spent more time in just the last year in deep woods than you have your entire life.

It actually makes me feel bad to say that but what are we going to do in the face of deception like this? None of my pictures are fuzzy. My bear hides are fuzzy. I shot and skinned the ones with an attitude problem.

I "get" that when you don't have this in your life then an alternative is pretending. Seeing a deer, wow. For a lot of years I worked pretty hard getting up close to animals. I am past that now, it had some hazards, but I got to where I could kiss a moose on the lips. You need to have them living around you full time to do that and spend years working on it.

I think living this adventure in your own mind without any bona fide experience gets you saying things you don't realize are so far removed from reality.

You know, I actually respect your lifestyle choice. I love Alaska but it's too cold too often for me personally. I'm particular to warmer or even tropical climates. I really enjoyed the pics you shared of the prep work you did on the trail for the sled dog race, the Iditarod if memory serves. Outstanding.

Undoubtedly you are much tougher than I am. A few years back I was tough too but unfortunately bad pumps run in the family. So I'm not very rugged these days. I still get outdoors though. And I was raised hunting and fishing here in KY, still do the fishing, not much hunting lately though.

Alaska would undoubtedly be prime real estate for Bigfoot if they can handle the cold. I don't know. The problem is it's so vast there, chances are you'd never see one if they are there. Unlike here in KY, there's tons of places to live and hide under the radar in Alaska.

My time in the woods is limited to Spring and Fall, during peak Bigfoot activity here. I don't go out in the Winter or Summer because there's not much happening. Not many sightings happen anyway and VERY FEW occur in winter here. I don't think that makes me a shut in. But on your scale of reference for outdoor activity, I can see why it may seem that way to you. And that's ok. I suppose where you live it's sort of an adventure just getting the mail.

If you feel the need to crucify me because I've seen something you haven't, you can do that. If it makes you feel good. But that won't change anything, as I can't unsee Bigfoot after the fact. I've welcomed skeptics to go out with me previously. Gratitude would seem to be insult here for some reason. It is offensive but I've got thick skin. I really dislike being called a novice outdoorsman though, especially by one that doesn't know what a scrape is or what it's for and can't tell a turkey feather from a hawk's. That was mean, I'll stop now. Chris B.

 

[ComfySlippers]

Hands up if your laughing.

 

[Cervelo]

Whine? I just point out that you are not a man of your word and not to be trusted. By revealing specific details you were trusted not to reveal, you have proven this to be a concrete fact for the masses here. Do you deny this is the case? Chris B.

Which details would those be?

 

[Garrette]

Sure, just like cervelo has maintained the NDA he signed. It's not gonna happen.
Fool me once. Chris B.

Were I to sign an NDA I would abide by it. I have signed and abided by very many in my life not to mention their equivalent during my many years in Military Intelligence (cue the jokes about oxymorons; I usually find them funny, too).

Note that I have seen no indication that Cervelo has violated his NDA. Perhaps he has, but without seeing the actual text it is impossible to say.

And it is for naught. Even were Chris willing for me to sign one, I am nit. I have no interest in playing along. The NDA is simply a prop in the play I have no role in.