Latest Bigfoot "evidence"

[ChrisBFRPKY]

That would be correct on my assessment of this site which has appox. 5 million visitors yearly and a very active local population.

Of all locations similar to it that I have visited it is uniquely unremote. It has a tremendous amount of local traffic through it on a daily basis and its local population is very active hunting the edges and fishing in the interior. It's geography divides it in half as well which concentrates even more scrutiny in a smaller area.

During the season this location has numerous guided tours, by foot and boat traversing all areas of this location. Also worth mentioning.. some of its fauna is so unique to this location that its scrutiny keeps many trained professionals in the field on a regular basis.
I did spend sometime in the Brownsvilles area and found nothing complelling other than some beautiful countryside and friendly people.

I spent almost a week in this area two nights on an island and one night in the "backcountry" which may as well have been camping in your backyard.

As an example of how utilized this area is in our rush to get out before dark (yes Chris is afraid to stay out in the woods after dark) we encountered a complete family unit......of people hiking in to have a cookout. IMO this area has zero possibility of having any undiscovered anything over 1lbs.

Some of Chris's behavior during our time together would indicate to me his confirmation bias is off the scale and he could mistake virtually anything in the woods for Bigfoot.

That's a great very specific, highly detailed, description of the area I took you through. First, let me say the decision of "where" we could go was highly limited due to you showing up on the opening day of deer season. For safety reasons and since this was the shortest trek to get to where I wanted to go, (an easy 6 miles total) this was obviously the best choice. Also, it was the location of the Hillside Bigfoot Family group video with available identifying markers from the video that could be witnessed and easily identified by you by simple comparison with the video. In retrospect, I'm certainly glad the choice of places to go was limited due to deer season. As you certainly made it well known. It seems my trust has been misplaced.

For some reason, you and others here seem to try and paint me as claiming I have some sort of highly remote area where no humans ever previously trekked before. This is ridiculous and highly dishonest of you. I have not and do not claim any such thing. I have said previously I study the Green River corridor at least 2 miles away from the nearest road. That's all that is required for a good chance at a sighting.

Yes the greater area has field Biologists but they're normally not sponsered or paid, most are either student volunteers from WKU or transient students seeking one of various degrees in biology. The best of of those focus on biological life in Karst formations IMO. There are a few medial programs available but most are overseen by WKU staff. I would tell you how I know but at this point your ability to keep anything confidential is certainly unworthy of the information.

Above you say: "Some of Chris's behavior during our time together would indicate to me his confirmation bias is off the scale and he could mistake virtually anything in the woods for Bigfoot"

Let's reflect a bit. I have no confirmation bias, what I have is a highly tuned ability to spot small movements and odd shapes in the woods. Do you remember the deer? Who saw his movement first? That's right, I did. After stopping in our tracks for the movement I spotted, you then spotted the buck after roughly 1 minute of scanning the area where I specified there was movement. Did I try to claim it was Bigfoot? Obviously not. What does this say about me? I'll give you a hint. You would have walked right up on that deer without seeing it beforehand and only learned of its presence when you watched it run away. I had time to observe. See how that works? I'm sure you're thinking of the tree stump now. Yes, while talking with you and being distracted from my task, I stopped when I caught a glimpse of a large dark object in my peripheral vision. Why? Because it was big and dark, kinda like what we were looking for. Of course the moment I turned my head I realized it was only a tree stump I chuckled and we moved on. Did I make it out to be anything it wasn't? Obviously not. How you get from that to "He could mistake virtually anything in the woods for Bigfoot" is beyond me and beyond reason.

You were being evaluated as well. I hope you were kidding when you asked what that deer scrape was. I also hope you were kidding when you snatched up that turkey feather and said it was from a red tailed hawk. Of course you didn't argue the point when I informed you it was actually a turkey feather. I knew you wanted to though. I didn't go into it then but I'll cover it now to ease your mind. In your defense nontheless. You see the reason for your mistake was largely due to the coloration of the feather. Aside from the massive difference of the shaft sizes which also made the ID simple at a glance, the two would have been of a similar color (so no points off there). The reason being is that the turkeys here are a mix. The population has a strong mixture of the Bronze breed bloodline with the wild turkey bloodline. This was largely due to the fact that some repopulated birds in the area came from farms. The Bronze breed is larger with a slightly different coloration. When the two are mixed sometimes that coloration comes out more in some birds than in others.

Again with the "Chris is afraid of the dark" thing. Please, I've probably spent more time in the woods without a light than you have with one. Getting out of the woods before dark is a safety issue. It is nonproductive to look for Bigfoot at night, bang on trees etc. The only thing that is good for is TV shows where you can pan the camera around to the faces of the individuals so they can ask "What was that?" while they portray a "pee in the pants" look. Nonsense.
Chris B.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Have you had a poor sighting? If so what happened?

Now that's funny.
Chris B.

 

[Cervelo]

That's a great very specific, highly detailed, description of the area I took you through. First, let me say the decision of "where" we could go was highly limited due to you showing up on the opening day of deer season. For safety reasons and since this was the shortest trek to get to where I wanted to go, (an easy 6 miles total) this was obviously the best choice. Also, it was the location of the Hillside Bigfoot Family group video with available identifying markers from the video that could be witnessed and easily identified by you by simple comparison with the video. In retrospect, I'm certainly glad the choice of places to go was limited due to deer season. As you certainly made it well known. It seems my trust has been misplaced.

For some reason, you and others here seem to try and paint me as claiming I have some sort of highly remote area where no humans ever previously trekked before. This is ridiculous and highly dishonest of you. I have not and do not claim any such thing. I have said previously I study the Green River corridor at least 2 miles away from the nearest road. That's all that is required for a good chance at a sighting.

Yes the greater area has field Biologists but they're normally not sponsered or paid, most are either student volunteers from WKU or transient students seeking one of various degrees in biology. The best of of those focus on biological life in Karst formations IMO. There are a few medial programs available but most are overseen by WKU staff. I would tell you how I know but at this point your ability to keep anything confidential is certainly unworthy of the information.

Above you say: "Some of Chris's behavior during our time together would indicate to me his confirmation bias is off the scale and he could mistake virtually anything in the woods for Bigfoot"

Let's reflect a bit. I have no confirmation bias, what I have is a highly tuned ability to spot small movements and odd shapes in the woods. Do you remember the deer? Who saw his movement first? That's right, I did. After stopping in our tracks for the movement I spotted, you then spotted the buck after roughly 1 minute of scanning the area where I specified there was movement. Did I try to claim it was Bigfoot? Obviously not. What does this say about me? I'll give you a hint. You would have walked right up on that deer without seeing it beforehand and only learned of its presence when you watched it run away. I had time to observe. See how that works? I'm sure you're thinking of the tree stump now. Yes, while talking with you and being distracted from my task, I stopped when I caught a glimpse of a large dark object in my peripheral vision. Why? Because it was big and dark, kinda like what we were looking for. Of course the moment I turned my head I realized it was only a tree stump I chuckled and we moved on. Did I make it out to be anything it wasn't? Obviously not. How you get from that to "He could mistake virtually anything in the woods for Bigfoot" is beyond me and beyond reason.

You were being evaluated as well. I hope you were kidding when you asked what that deer scrape was. I also hope you were kidding when you snatched up that turkey feather and said it was from a red tailed hawk. Of course you didn't argue the point when I informed you it was actually a turkey feather. I knew you wanted to though. I didn't go into it then but I'll cover it now to ease your mind. In your defense nontheless. You see the reason for your mistake was largely due to the coloration of the feather. Aside from the massive difference of the shaft sizes which also made the ID simple at a glance, the two would have been of a similar color (so no points off there). The reason being is that the turkeys here are a mix. The population has a strong mixture of the Bronze breed bloodline with the wild turkey bloodline. This was largely due to the fact that some repopulated birds in the area came from farms. The Bronze breed is larger with a slightly different coloration. When the two are mixed sometimes that coloration comes out more in some birds than in others.

Again with the "Chris is afraid of the dark" thing. Please, I've probably spent more time in the woods without a light than you have with one. Getting out of the woods before dark is a safety issue. It is nonproductive to look for Bigfoot at night, bang on trees etc. The only thing that is good for is TV shows where you can pan the camera around to the faces of the individuals so they can ask "What was that?" while they portray a "pee in the pants" look. Nonsense.
Chris B.

You did leave out the part about where you thought "something" was behind us.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

You did leave out the part about where you thought "something" was behind us.

I heard a nice loud stick break behind us worthy of notice. That's all. If you did not hear it, you're deaf. If you heard it and ignored it, you're typical of most hikers/hunters. I don't ignore stick breaks, that doesn't mean it's always a Bigfoot, it means something broke a stick and perhaps you should look around and try to determine "what" it was that did so. Perception is something that must be honed, without it you're simply stumbling thru the forest oblivious to nature. Stop and have a look sometime.
Chris B.

 

[Resume]

I heard a nice loud stick break behind us worthy of notice. That's all. If you did not hear it, you're deaf. If you heard it and ignored it, you're typical of most hikers/hunters. I don't ignore stick breaks, that doesn't mean it's always a Bigfoot, it means something broke a stick and perhaps you should look around and try to determine "what" it was that did so. Perception is something that must be honed, without it you're simply stumbling thru the forest oblivious to nature. Stop and have a look sometime.
Chris B.

You hear things that others do not, see things that others do not.

Or perhaps you misinterpret all sorts of common, natural phenomena to suit your bias.

And I really, really like when you pull out your bigfoot explorers club card.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

You hear things that others do not, see things that others do not.

Or perhaps you misinterpret all sorts of common, natural phenomena to suit your bias.

And I really, really like when you pull out your bigfoot explorers club card.

Tricky of you. You suggest I heard something cervelo didn't. I wasn't aware cervelo had clarified whether he heard the stick break or not here. It's my opinion he could not have missed it, but simply chose to ignore it.
Of course we can ask him to see if the first part of your statement is accurate. The second half about "seeing things others do not", obviously cervelo saw the deer, he just saw it later. So it was in fact there.
Chris B.

 

[carlitos]

, it was the location of the Hillside Bigfoot Family group video with available identifying markers from the video .......

Seeing that video leads a reasonable person to conclude that:

"He could mistake virtually anything in the woods for Bigfoot" is beyond me and beyond reason.

Of course it's beyond reason. You're playing silly games. Good for you, you got someone else to come out and play with you.

 

[Resume]

Tricky of you. You suggest I heard something cervelo didn't. I wasn't aware cervelo had clarified whether he heard the stick break or not here. It's my opinion he could not have missed it, but simply chose to ignore it.
Of course we can ask him to see if the first part of your statement is accurate. The second half about "seeing things others do not", obviously cervelo saw the deer, he just saw it later. So it was in fact there.
Chris B.

Chris, your numerous claims indicate you're seeing and hearing things others do not. No one but you sees the footies you do in your photos, and your third growth holler. It seems to be a frequent occurrence, sorry to point out.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Seeing that video leads a reasonable person to conclude that:



Of course it's beyond reason. You're playing silly games. Good for you, you got someone else to come out and play with you.

You're not qualified to make those determinations.
Chris B.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Chris, your numerous claims indicate you're seeing and hearing things others do not. No one but you sees the footies you do in your photos, and your third growth holler. It seems to be a frequent occurrence, sorry to point out.

On the contrary, I've demonstrated to a skeptic nonetheless I see and hear very well, better than most in fact, and can identify wildlife at a glance. Try again. Chris B.

 

[carlitos]

You're not qualified to make those determinations.
Chris B.

On the contrary. I've been on this board for years, so I'm eminently qualified. Your brand of performance art is not at all special. No different from the guys who see faeries in their garden, "orbs" in everyday photographs or Satan in the smoke of 9/11 videos.

 

[Resume]

On the contrary, I've demonstrated to a skeptic nonetheless I see and hear very well, better than most in fact, and can identify wildlife at a glance. Try again. Chris B.

No, all you've demonstrated so far is your willingness to engage in pareidoilac interpretations of murky photography, tell campfire stories, and act just like any other bigfoot proponent. Skeptical? Hardly. Identify wildlife at a glance? You can't tell a shadow from a primate.

And again, I love your bigfoot explorer's card canard. Many of your correspondents here have as much outdoors experience as you, more biological knowledge and field experience than you, and more knowledge of the natural history of NA. In some cases (The Shrike as one example) much more. The bluster is a fail.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

On the contrary. I've been on this board for years, so I'm eminently qualified. Your brand of performance art is not at all special. No different from the guys who see faeries in their garden, "orbs" in everyday photographs or Satan in the smoke of 9/11 videos.

I see, so you have studied my video in great detail? See any movement?
Chris B.

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

For some reason, you and others here seem to try and paint me as claiming I have some sort of highly remote area where no humans ever previously trekked before. This is ridiculous and highly dishonest of you. I have not and do not claim any such thing. I have said previously I study the Green River corridor at least 2 miles away from the nearest road. That's all that is required for a good chance at a sighting.

Chris B.

A good example of denying what you're doing while in the middle of doing it, then blaming us for it.

There isn't any place on that river that is two miles from developed land. Farms don't have roads on their plowed fields or pastures, but you have people actually living there working the land on a full-time basis.

The river itself is a major transportation corridor, and you'll see a lot of people every day drifting down that river, or fishing, or what have you. Some parts of it get on the order of 10 million short tons a year of coal shipped on it.

It is a lie by omission when we leave out pertinent facts like this in order to conceal how much human activity is smack dab on this habitat.

Most of us know you don't believe in bigfoot because none of your behavior is consistent with a person who really believed.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

No, all you've demonstrated so far is your willingness to engage in pareidoilac interpretations of murky photography, tell campfire stories, and act just like any other bigfoot proponent. Skepitcal? Hardly. Identify wildlife at a glance? You can't tell a shadow from a primate.

And again, I love you bigfoot explorer's card canard. Many of your correspondents here have as much outdoors experience as you, more biological knowledge and field experience than you, and more knowledge of the natural history of NA. In some cases (The Shrike as one example) much more. The bluster is a fail.

That remains to be seen.

As far as my comparative knowledge, outdoor or scientific with the membership here that also remains to be seen. You know far more about me (what I've chosen to release anyway) than I do about most people here, I don't think there's any way to debate anyone's shortcomings or issue songs of praise either way. It's been my understanding in the World of secret identities here a chicken farmer can be a well respected PHD. Chris B.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

A good example of denying what you're doing while in the middle of doing it, then blaming us for it.

There isn't any place on that river that is two miles from developed land. Farms don't have roads on their plowed fields or pastures, but you have people actually living there working the land on a full-time basis.

The river itself is a major transportation corridor, and you'll see a lot of people every day drifting down that river, or fishing, or what have you. Some parts of it get on the order of 10 million short tons a year of coal shipped on it.

It is a lie by omission when we leave out pertinent facts like this in order to conceal how much human activity is smack dab on this habitat.

Most of us know you don't believe in bigfoot because none of your behavior is consistent with a person who really believed.

You are one of the crowd that paints me as claiming to have some sort of vast uncharted wilderness. That is a lie.

As far as Bigfoot, what do you know? Anything? Or do you speculate deep dark uncharted wilderness is a requirement? Ridiculous IMO. Perhaps you're thinking about resident population requirements for a large species. I'll let you in on something. Something you're overlooking. Did you ever think to ask the question: What if the Bigfoot population is not residential and instead nomadic? Ding ding ding........
Chris B.

 

[Resume]

Something you're overlooking. Did you ever think to ask the question: What if the Bigfoot population is not residential and instead nomadic? Ding ding ding........
Chris B.

A nomadic population of 9-ft bipedal apes would only bring it into more frequent contact with human beings. Migration routes enable humans to successfully pinpoint and hunt (and slaughter) wildlife.

Your bigfoot explorer's card failed you here.

 

[tsig]

That remains to be seen.

As far as my comparative knowledge, outdoor or scientific with the membership here that also remains to be seen. You know far more about me (what I've chosen to release anyway) than I do about most people here, I don't think there's any way to debate anyone's shortcomings or issue songs of praise either way. It's been my understanding in the World of secret identities here a chicken farmer can be a well respected PHD. Chris B.

Longtabber is long gone.

He is still a member but he quit posting.

 

[The Shrike]

Yes the greater area has field Biologists but they're normally not sponsered or paid,

relevance?

most are either student volunteers from WKU or transient students

like hobos?

. . . seeking one of various degrees in biology. The best of of those focus on biological life in Karst formations IMO. There are a few medial programs available but most are overseen by WKU staff.

I sense that these comments were meant to downplay the amount of attention paid to biological inventory invested at the site, but I don't see how they could. "Yeah, this area has WKU students in it all the time, but what do they know?" Translation: the area is frequently visited by a demographic that can snap a photo with their phones before you can say "pickin' up paw-paw put 'em in my pocket."

I did a quick check on eBird (just one source of free information submitted by volunteers) and confirmed my suspicion that there are hundreds of checklists logged for the public area I assume we're talking about. Hundreds. The first location I selected had checklists submitted by two friends of mine, and it only took about two minutes to stumble upon a checklist from a third person who was camped out in my driveway this past December.

 

[River]

You are one of the crowd that paints me as claiming to have some sort of vast uncharted wilderness. That is a lie.

As far as Bigfoot, what do you know? Anything? Or do you speculate deep dark uncharted wilderness is a requirement? Ridiculous IMO. Perhaps you're thinking about resident population requirements for a large species. I'll let you in on something. Something you're overlooking. Did you ever think to ask the question: What if the Bigfoot population is not residential and instead nomadic? Ding ding ding........
Chris B.

If a large 8-10 foot tall nomadic creature were roaming the NA continent, it would be discovered by now Chris. Where is the migratory path? What do they eat? Tell us more about the pine bark eating.

Fill us dumb skeptics in on your bigfoot behavior knowledge. What do bigfoots do all day? Look for people to taunt? Wouldnt such a large creature need to eat, a lot? So much, it would be very noticable where it had been feeding/living due to its excrement, and impact on the ecology?

These huge migratory ninjas, errr apes do not leave any traces of their existance? Or do they make stick structures and show themselves to believers by throwing candy?

Gee Chris, your bigfoots are really neat. Do they recognize you now? Do they allow you to watch them, or are they surprised by your stealthness?