Latest Bigfoot "evidence"

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ChrisBFRPKY said:
You just can't see past #3. I'm sorry but clouding the issue of mystery DNA partial discovery of #4 with discussion of #3 Denisovan DNA type specimens is not gonna get you to where I am now. Chris B.
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You're absolutely right. Enough clouding the issue.

So Chris where's your evidence for Bigfoot?
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Please just give it up. I'm starting to feel bad for you at this point.
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I suggest that you and I both give it up. I don't share your sorrow for Drewbot: he/she seems to me to be quite knowledgeable. Calling out your errors may be fun, but we should return to the theme of this thread.

We already have demonstrated in this thread, and you have nicely agreed, that DNA sequence alone can identify the existence of an unknown primate. Many other people here have indicated how this would be a very important discovery as to Bigfoot, would prove your primary belief true to the skeptics here, and would lead to financing of more and better expeditions that would greatly aid in discovering how Bigfoot lives and looks.

If you would like to start up another thread about Deniosvans, or even primate intelligence, then please do so.
 
LTC8K6 said:
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/polar-bear-dna-extracted-footprints-snow

We have plenty of claimed bigfoot tracks.

It seems like all you need to do is sample the track, in snow or dirt, and you can get bigfoot DNA from it.

Bigfoot doesn't wear shoes, so he leaves loads of skin cells in his tracks.

In fact, casting the track has probably preserved loads of bigfoot cells in the plaster.
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Yep, those claiming footie trackways have now backed themselves into a corner. I'm predicting any DNA results from alleged footie prints comes up human contamination, to which proponents will point and say " see, human hybrid."
 
dmaker said:
Then why did you feel the need to mention it here and proclaim that you may, indeed, have bigfoot DNA?

And, more importantly, if you are so convinced that the sample is invalid, why on earth did you pick it up and take it home?
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I claimed only to have an invalid sample, such as the ones submitted to Sykes. The reason for keeping the sample is that although unconfirmed, it has the possibility to be from a Bigfoot as this was the goal used for the collection method.
Chris B.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
I claimed only to have an invalid sample, such as the ones submitted to Sykes. The reason for keeping the sample is that although unconfirmed, it has the possibility to be from a Bigfoot as this was the goal used for the collection method.
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Beautiful. So we can shelve that meaningless nonsense about mythical samples that aren't samples and get back to the topic at hand.

So Chris where's your evidence for Bigfoot?
 
Resume said:
How much did you pay for that thing? Wait, I'm becoming baffled by all the ******** being shovelled here.
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Yeah, I'm going to stop playing. It's bad for my blood pressure and I had to report one of my own posts and got a warning. If bigfoot people want to play games on the internet, have at it.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
I claimed only to have an invalid sample, such as the ones submitted to Sykes. The reason for keeping the sample is that although unconfirmed, it has the possibility to be from a Bigfoot as this was the goal used for the collection method.
Chris B.
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That possibility can only be realized by having it sequenced, something you know. That becomes less and less likely the longer you wait, something you know.

This is really all just about that one word, "possibility" isn't it? You don't want bigfoot to exist, you want it to be possible for bigfoot to exist.
 
Biscuit said:
This is really all just about that one word, "possibility" isn't it? You don't want bigfoot to exist, you want it to be possible for bigfoot to exist.
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Yeah I think that's the character class he chose for his BLAARGing. The "Gap in the Known Where the Woo Goes." Worshiper.

After 10 more turns he'll be able to upgrade his "Science doesn't know everything!" stats and unlock the "Big Science is suppressing the truth because it doesn't want to admit it was wrong" special attack.
 
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ChrisBFRPKY said:
I claimed only to have an invalid sample, such as the ones submitted to Sykes. The reason for keeping the sample is that although unconfirmed, it has the possibility to be from a Bigfoot as this was the goal used for the collection method.
Chris B.
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How do you know that its invalid if it hasn't been tested?

Chris, do you also buy lotto tickets and keep them while refusing to ever check the numbers?
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Where are the bones that were not gnawed on by porcupines? Are there any? I don't think so........
Chris B.
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This is a bizarre bit of (il)logic.

YOU claimed that scientists said that all the giganto bones were eaten by porcupines. I ask you to back that up, and you ask me to tell you about bones that haven't been chewed by porcupines.

You made the claim, you have been asked to provide some evidence in support, and you have singularly failed. You have also failed to understand on whom the onus lies. Let me give you a clue: of the two of us, it isn't me.
 
Chris created a method of collecting Bigfoot saliva and now has saliva collected from that method. He also has full HD facial photography from 15' away. According to Chris, neither of these items are worthy of a reveal because they aren't a body part. I imagine that these things and more are all stored in a secret proof of bigfoot box somewhere in Chris's attic. Chris told us he "packs large" when going after bigfoot, but is a no-kill advocate and is just going to wait until he finds a body part. So we all must trust that Chris has the goods, but hasn't finished his study.

In general, this sounds like lots of other BLAARGers who have "evidence" that they won't show. I've decided that one of the reasons that BF believers strongly defend anything that comes out, is because they want BF to be real. At the same time, they know what they claim to have is BS. They keep up the BLAAARG just hoping that some day someone else finds a real bigfoot so they can say "told you so!." If only one person could just prove that Santa was actually on the roof last Christmas eve!
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
I claimed only to have an invalid sample, such as the ones submitted to Sykes. The reason for keeping the sample is that although unconfirmed, it has the possibility to be from a Bigfoot as this was the goal used for the collection method.
Chris B.
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The ones submitted to Sykes (the many submitted to Sykes) weren't invalid at all. They were fully valid samples. They just weren't Bigfoot samples. You are again assuming that Bigfoot must be true, so anything that demonstrates otherwise must not really be valid.

Any you have still not explained why you are saving your sample without having it sequenced. It is only useful at all if it is indeed Bigfoot, and yet the sole means of demonstrating that is true is sequencing its DNA. So you can't tell us that you are not sequencing it because you are not certain of it being Bigfoot and you are waiting until you know it is Bigfoot: you will never know, and it is useless until you sequence it (and then only if it is Bigfoot, of course).
 
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I'm feeling quite sure about a conclusion that was mentioned just above, that is: Chris doesn't want the sample (assuming it exists) tested, as it would undoubtedly come back as something mundane. This would mean he could no longer claim to have a 'potential' sample, and BFers really, really need something to hold onto lately (due to all the crap and frauds pulled by various other BFers - all of which have tarnished beyond repair any remaining 'authority' these Bfers may have had in the past).

We just can't allow our (potential) illusions to be proven wrong - much better to go through life with a tiny chance it may be something, rather than know for sure it's not significant.

Similar to many religious I know, they simply cannot give up their (illusions, delusions, conclusions, 'feelings', whatever) because as soon as they do, they (correctly) suspect their entire worldview they've built up around it - decades worth - comes crashing down. Their whole lives are wrapped around these fantasies, and one simply cannot allow a tiny fracture in the structure, otherwise the whole thing might collaspe : leaving them with either admitting they wasted much of their lives believing this crap, and/or feeling worthless, depression, loss of job/income/friends/etc.

Such people have so much invested in their beliefs it's simply unthinkable for it to all be false, or based on lies/fraud/deciet/mistakes.

I used to feel sorry - pity even- for such people, but not anymore. Nowadays, I frequently end up responding along the lines of 'either keep your BS to yourself, or go to some other country/place/deserted island where you can keep your fantasies from the rest of us - we have enough problems trying to keep (insert fundamentalist religion here) from dragging us back to the middle ages...
 
The only rational argument for not testing the saliva is that you don't want to know what it came from.

Can you imagine a detective not ordering a DNA test because he only had the blood of the unknown victim and not the body?
 
You ever been looking for your wallet or your keys or whatever and you get to the last logical place they could be, like you've looked in all your pockets and on the counter so you go to the dryer for the pants you wore yesterday, and for a second, just for a split second you don't want to look because in a small part of your brain the idea that the object in question would be there is better then looking in that last place, seeing the object isn't there, and not knowing what to do then?

Yeah.
 
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