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Ironically, after the talk of UK Bigfeet, I'm currently struggling to watch Finding Bigfoot UK: Untold Stories on Animal Planet. If this show doesn't reveal what we already know about 'Squatching, then I don't know what would. It's clear from the outset that this show, and Bigfooting in general, is about fandom and BLAARG'ing.

You have people turning up from all over the UK to see the cast of the show at the "Town Hall Meeting" all wearing Bigfoot merchandise, quoting catchphrases from the show and giving their versions of the Bigfoot "howl."
 
I will ALWAYS be the victor in a debate with you in real life too. And you know you didn't "simply asked you for the definition" of ANYTHING. A constant source of hilarity here is you thinking you're responding intelligently.

Do you realize the only "evidence" you've presented so far for Bigfoot's existence is the notion that YOU couldn't be wrong? Even your own posts/arguments highlight how "amazing" that really is. They're often along the lines of "Yeah yeah I know it seems amazing to me too that Bigfoot lives, but he does cause I seen him with my own two eyes." Yes of course, there's no way your eyes could have deceived you. And you were there and we weren't, right? You're so right in fact that you're willing to declare ALL scientific knowledge, convention and pursuit as suspect, misguided, questionable and even bogus whenever and wherever it intersects with your premise that Bigfoot lives. Cause once again, YOU were there and saw the beast and <insert favorite scientist here> wasn't. Science and biology and the cosmos and nitrogen and woodchucks can all go pound sand because there's just no way YOU could be wrong.

Maybe the biggest mystery of all is your unrelenting incredulity that we would have a problem with that.

You do have a way of putting quite a twist on things in your posts. Perhaps your superior intellect is just too powerful for me to comprehend, being from KY and all.

It seems to me in your post you're saying I'm the only one to ever witness a Bigfoot in KY. If you'll remember, some of my sightings include multiple witnesses present though, so I guess we were all mistaken multiple times in that case.

Had you argued I had witnessed something briefly once that I had likely mistaken for Bigfoot, I would agree in that case that mistaken identity would be possible. However, the facts are I witnessed these things several times in 2010 and some of those occasions included several other people present. Observation times lasting between a few seconds to several minutes. More than enough time for a good long look.

I know you hunger for evidence. You know why that is? Because I'll bet deep down you're considering "What if I'm wrong?" and you are.

So Yes, unfortunately, I'm certain they exist even if it harelips everyone in China. Chris B.
 
Chris, the Bigfoot believer community is uninterested in what you have or what you say. You seem to be a nobody with nothing to them.
 
You do have a way of putting quite a twist on things in your posts. Perhaps your superior intellect is just too powerful for me to comprehend, being from KY and all.

It seems to me in your post you're saying I'm the only one to ever witness a Bigfoot in KY. If you'll remember, some of my sightings include multiple witnesses present though, so I guess we were all mistaken multiple times in that case.

Had you argued I had witnessed something briefly once that I had likely mistaken for Bigfoot, I would agree in that case that mistaken identity would be possible. However, the facts are I witnessed these things several times in 2010 and some of those occasions included several other people present. Observation times lasting between a few seconds to several minutes. More than enough time for a good long look.

I know you hunger for evidence. You know why that is? Because I'll bet deep down you're considering "What if I'm wrong?" and you are.

So Yes, unfortunately, I'm certain they exist even if it harelips everyone in China. Chris B.

I don't believe you.
 
You do have a way of putting quite a twist on things in your posts. Perhaps your superior intellect is just too powerful for me to comprehend, being from KY and all.

It seems to me in your post you're saying I'm the only one to ever witness a Bigfoot in KY. If you'll remember, some of my sightings include multiple witnesses present though, so I guess we were all mistaken multiple times in that case.

Had you argued I had witnessed something briefly once that I had likely mistaken for Bigfoot, I would agree in that case that mistaken identity would be possible. However, the facts are I witnessed these things several times in 2010 and some of those occasions included several other people present. Observation times lasting between a few seconds to several minutes. More than enough time for a good long look.

I know you hunger for evidence. You know why that is? Because I'll bet deep down you're considering "What if I'm wrong?" and you are.

So Yes, unfortunately, I'm certain they exist even if it harelips everyone in China. Chris B.

So you and others have had a prolonged sighting of these Bigfeet and yet you still have nothing to show for it?

You say you only started researching properly in 2007, then you had some sightings in 2010, so what happened in the years from 1980-2007 with re: to you living on a migration path?
 
Gilbert, the information released is all I allow in the public domain. No further releases will occur until I have a body or part. At that time I'll share everything, personal background info as well, since there will be no need in keeping it private anymore. Chris B.
 
Gilbert, the information released is all I allow in the public domain. No further releases will occur until I have a body or part. At that time I'll share everything, personal background info as well, since there will be no need in keeping it private anymore. Chris B.

But if privacy and protection is what you're really after, why even show anything at all? Why be on a public forum discussing anything about it? Why have a bio-page at all? It's kind of like the deal with Bigfoot, if you're trying to remain elusive, why go to a lot of trouble to be seen, heard and "felt?"
 
But if privacy and protection is what you're really after, why even show anything at all? Why be on a public forum discussing anything about it? Why have a bio-page at all? It's kind of like the deal with Bigfoot, if you're trying to remain elusive, why go to a lot of trouble to be seen, heard and "felt?"

If you mean why did I list some limited info on my Bio page. I did that for a project I was working with to give folks a little background info about me. I've never felt the need to hide behind a secret identity.

As far as why be on a public forum, ask yourself and everyone else here the same question. Personally, I like to point out flaws in the argument against Bigfoot. You and the others here like to dig up my personal background and make "that" the discussion instead of concentrating on the flaws in your own logic. I think that's called "diversion" and some possess a good ability for "spin" here as well.

It's funny though as I've always encouraged everyone to remain skeptical. I only discourage the argument of "impossible" and of course the lazy man's argument of "denial" as they relate to Bigfoot. Those two have very little to do with critical thinking. The only logical argument is "what determines possibility". Chris B.
 
If you mean why did I list some limited info on my Bio page. I did that for a project I was working with to give folks a little background info about me. I've never felt the need to hide behind a secret identity.

As far as why be on a public forum, ask yourself and everyone else here the same question. Personally, I like to point out flaws in the argument against Bigfoot. You and the others here like to dig up my personal background and make "that" the discussion instead of concentrating on the flaws in your own logic. I think that's called "diversion" and some possess a good ability for "spin" here as well.

It's funny though as I've always encouraged everyone to remain skeptical. I only discourage the argument of "impossible" and of course the lazy man's argument of "denial" as they relate to Bigfoot. Those two have very little to do with critical thinking. The only logical argument is "what determines possibility". Chris B.


Me asking you why you're on a public forum was soley based on the fact that you keep mentioning how you want to keep a low profile, but everything you've said and done here has been the opposite of a guy trying to remain incognito about his "project." As for flaws in my own logic, would you care to enlighten me as to what they may be? Is me not believing in Bigfoot an example of flawed logic? On what planet?

The problem is that you don't point out any flaws in the argument against Bigfoot, I'd love it if you did, but so far, no biscuits. No'one here has "dug up" your personal background, other posters have only copy and pasted the things that you yourself have posted on the internet, when you're on the internet, saying things, doing things, and being things...that kinda happens.

You open yourself up to scrutiny by posting the things that you do on here, an obviously sceptical forum, and when we have no real Bigfoot to discuss, we have to discuss the people who make bold claims about him instead, and in this case, that'd be you.

I wonder if you really understand what "critical thinking" actually is, after reading what you just typed. You can't have your cake and eat it, mate, either you're encouraging everyone to remain sceptical, or you're calling us all lazy denialists for remaining sceptical about something that literally takes zero amount of critical thinking to reach an opinion on.

"I think that's called "diversion" and some possess a good ability for "spin" here as well."

Was that an attempt at irony? lol.
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So, if I said that I lived in a gathering area and migration path in NC for pygmy giraffe, and I couldn't produce any evidence of any pygmy giraffe, it would be unfair of skeptics to point that out?

The claim of living for a long time in a pygmy giraffe habituation area in NC, sans evidence of said giraffe, would not be a flaw in my argument for native NC giraffe?
 
The only spin going on in this thread, or any other bigfoot thread, here or anywhere, are the myriad diversions away from the absolute reality of zero (0) bigfoot.
 
If you mean why did I list some limited info on my Bio page. I did that for a project I was working with to give folks a little background info about me. I've never felt the need to hide behind a secret identity.

As far as why be on a public forum, ask yourself and everyone else here the same question. Personally, I like to point out flaws in the argument against Bigfoot. You and the others here like to dig up my personal background and make "that" the discussion instead of concentrating on the flaws in your own logic. I think that's called "diversion" and some possess a good ability for "spin" here as well.

It's funny though as I've always encouraged everyone to remain skeptical. I only discourage the argument of "impossible" and of course the lazy man's argument of "denial" as they relate to Bigfoot. Those two have very little to do with critical thinking. The only logical argument is "what determines possibility". Chris B.


Uhm...so when are you going to start?
 
Chris, the name of this thread is latest bigfoot evidence. Since you have no evidence for bigfoot that you are willing to share, then perhaps this conversation should be moved to bigfoot follies. There you can continue to feel like you are pointing out flaws in the argument against bigfoot. Which is, of course, folly.
 
It looks like this thread is coming to an end so I'm going to address the distortions that keep getting thrown in. When people claim that the moon landing was a hoax, the two most common fallacies are Argument From Ignorance and Argument From Incredulity. If you look at the materials from even so-called experts like Kaysing, Marcus Allen, and Sibrell, most of their arguments are the same. If they don't understand it, it couldn't have happened. The argument from incredulity is related since a lot of their disbelief comes from not understanding technical aspects of the space program. However, some of the arguments are profoundly nonsensical such as using the data from Explorer 1 and 2 to prove the existence of the Van Allen Belts; and then disregarding the data from Explorer 1 and 2 to claim that they are impassable. It is not unusual for moon hoax enthusiasts to be profoundly ignorant of physics, radiation, radio communication, history, and engineering.

Bigfoot arguments tend to have a similar lack of understanding of science. It is not unusual for bigfoot enthusiasts to have a profound ignorance of biology, zoology, wildlife research, statistical methodology, and scientific practices in general. Moon hoax enthusiasts typically use the Nirvana Fallacy where evidence for a moon landing has to be absolutely perfect or it is rejected. Bigfoot enthusiasts use the related fallacy of Shifting The Burden of Proof where it is suggested that bigfoot must exist unless it can be absolutely disproved. Both groups engage in Cherry Picking with MHEs looking for any flaw in evidence and BFEs looking for any scrap of proof. Probably the most common BFE fallacy is trying to group unrelated evidence as though the total adds up to more proof than each insignificant piece alone.

No further releases will occur until I have a body or part.
As I explained before, a body or DNA is not necessary to prove the existence of an unknown organism. The professional zoological journals would accept an article about an undiscovered animal in North America based on normal scientific investigation. What you are doing is creating an argument where you suggest that the standards of proof are impossibly high. This is not the case.

You and the others here like to dig up my personal background and make "that" the discussion instead of concentrating on the flaws in your own logic. I think that's called "diversion" and some possess a good ability for "spin" here as well.
The argument you are suggesting is something like this:
"If I'm telling the truth then bigfoot must be real. Bigfoot can only be fake if I'm lying so you have to assume that I'm lying."

This is not correct. Your honesty has no effect on the existence of bigfoot. You don't feed them; you don't raise them; and you aren't setting up a preserve for them so even if bigfoot was a real animal you would have no influence on them. The dearth of genuine evidence for bigfoot remains whether you lie or you don't.

It's funny though as I've always encouraged everyone to remain skeptical. I only discourage the argument of "impossible" and of course the lazy man's argument of "denial" as they relate to Bigfoot. Those two have very little to do with critical thinking. The only logical argument is "what determines possibility".
Bigfoot is not a philosophical concept and cannot be proved or disproved using only logical assertions. I am not at all skeptical of bigfoot for the simple reason that I can't be skeptical of nothing. The level of evidence would have to be raised considerably to have something to be skeptical of.
 
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This is not correct. Your honesty has no effect on the existence of bigfoot. You don't feed them; you don't raise them; and you aren't setting up a preserve for them so even if bigfoot was a real animal you would have no influence on them. The dearth of genuine evidence for bigfoot remains whether you lie or you don't.

If bigfoot existed, it would be common knowledge, would have been from the get-go. There would be no need for myriad bigfoot proponents, researchers, web-sites and podcasts. In fact, ole footie would be a mundanity by now. There would be no need for bigfoot heroes, which is what the BLAARGers are ultimately up to. I just don't understand what they're doing here other than counting faux coupe and taking it back to BLAARGistan.
 
I can think of a good example of the difference between a BFE and genuine science. There was a trail-cam picture that was taken back in 2010 that purports to show a mother bigfoot picking up apples with her baby hanging around her neck. http://cliffbarackman.com/research/field-investigations/vermont-trail-camera-photo-analysis/

If you are a BFE then you will go over this image in microscopic detail because your mistaken belief is that any scrap of evidence adds to proof of bigfoot. This is false.

I don't have to scrutinize the image because it was taken in 2010. If it were real then there would be several dozen such images by now.
 
The Bigfoot and baby eating apples....good grief...one would have to be a moron not to be able to tell that was a back of a bird very close to the camera.
 
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