Larry Silverstein Takes Questions....

[LashL]

I have a sneaking feeling LashL is still under the assumption that I read what he/she writes. I may be wrong, and his/her post may not be directed at me.

Aw, bless, widdums just couldn't help himself. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself, you know. You might be a little less obvious about it next time.

In any event, I care not a whit whether or not you read what I write. The point is that everyone else can, so I will continue to address your posts as and when I see fit, for the benefit of those who choose to read and/or discuss my posts. That is rather the purpose of a message board, after all.

I'd check, but I'm afraid I might barf if he/she wrote the usual line for line reply.

So, your stomach is too sensitive for rational discourse, and yet you have no trouble swallowing ridiculous conspiracy theories whole, and you have no trouble with making baseless accusations against people in furtherance of undefined - and often ludicrous - conspiracy theories that, by necessity, implicate hundreds or thousands of people in crimes.

Got it.

Ignorance in this case, is bliss.

Based on your posts, ignorance, in your case, is par for the course.

Now, back to the topic at hand: Please start contacting the other commanders forthwith and report back with the results as soon as possible. By the way, there are a lot more than 7 (the number that you've mentioned a few times in this thread).

 

[pomeroo]

Not unfriendly at all. I sense some sincerity in your questions. To be frank and hopefully, brief, I agree that many posters who present the Inside Job perspective are not well informed, not good writers, and conduct themselves poorly. There are also those on the debunker side like that as well, but on jref, not that many. I grant you that.

I get a lot of responses to my posts, questions, and outright hostility. I have to pick my battles. You might notice that you will get some of the more extensive responses because I've genuinely come to appreciate your work. I believe it is possible to respect an opponent and still not agree.

Unless Silverstein can verify who he spoke with, we're not going to get much further in the "pull it" discussion. I've stated my case, you and others have stated yours. There's not much more to say on that.

However, there is a lot more to discuss about WTC 7. LS's comments just happen to be one small piece in a very large puzzle.

I sincerely appreciate your civility. But you must realize that I am asking you to do what other fantasists cannot: make a case that Silverstein's seemingly harmless exchange with the fire chief contains something cryptic and sinister. Specifically, you are obliged to relate his remark agreeing with the fire chief's assessment, the one that everyone finds perfectly harmless and natural, to demolition.

He says to the chief that, in view of the terrible loss of life, suspending firefighting and rescue operations would be the smartest thing to do. If he is saying something different, something that somehow implies demolishing his building, you really must expalin your thought processes. Why is he asking that his building be blown up and why, for heaven's sake, is he making this bizarre request of a member of the FDNY?

Our peace treaty remains in effect, but you should either make a coherent case or acknowledge that Silverstein just doesn't fit into the conspiracy.

 

[RedIbis]

I sincerely appreciate your civility. But you must realize that I am asking you to do what other fantasists cannot: make a case that Silverstein's seemingly harmless exchange with the fire chief contains something cryptic and sinister. Specifically, you are obliged to relate his remark agreeing with the fire chief's assessment, the one that everyone finds perfectly harmless and natural, to demolition.

He says to the chief that, in view of the terrible loss of life, suspending firefighting and rescue operations would be the smartest thing to do. If he is saying something different, something that somehow implies demolishing his building, you really must expalin your thought processes. Why is he asking that his building be blown up and why, for heaven's sake, is he making this bizarre request of a member of the FDNY?

Our peace treaty remains in effect, but you should either make a coherent case or acknowledge that Silverstein just doesn't fit into the conspiracy.

Hopefully, a peace treaty will survive the fact that I've presented my case on the Silverstein interview and don't wish to restate it.

Perhaps some researcher will be conscientious and lucky enough to get Silverstein to say which commander he spoke with. Until then, there's not much more I can say.

 

[tsig]

It was Silverstein Properties that put in an insurance claim on WTC 7 and this would be the document the insurance company had to work with in assessing the claim - a claim document no doubt signed by Larry Silverstein. If what you say is true - that insurance companies only listen to experts - then why did the insurance company not wait for the NIST Report before agreeing to pay up on Silverstein's claim. And if what you say about owners in general is true, why is there such a thing as insurance fraud.

Con Ed, owner of the sub station in the basement of WTC 7, also put in an insurance claim and launched a lawsuit against the City of New York. Now according to your line of reasoning the opinion of Con Ed, the owner of a facility destroyed by 9-11, means nothing to the insurance company.

But the demise of WTC 7 was apparently largely caused by the inappropriate storage of large amounts of diesel fuel. Debris rained down on many buildings in the vicinity of WTC 1 & 2 on 9/11, but only WTC 7 totally collapsed. Silverstein and Giuliani insisted on the placement of large fuel tanks on the 5th and 7th floors of WTC 7. Irwin Cantor, the WTC 7 site's chief structural engineer was the only WTC 7 Planning Commission memeber to abstain from voting on the final approval for the design of the building. Silverstein was irresponsible in allowing those tanks in his building and he is irresponsible in claiming that the WTC 1 antenna ruptured the fuel lines from those tanks.

None of this changes the physics of the collapse.

 

[LashL]

Perhaps some researcher will be conscientious and lucky enough to get Silverstein to say which commander he spoke with. Until then, there's not much more I can say.

"Some researcher"?

Why are you waiting for "some researcher" to do your work for you? You have repeatedly accused Mr. Silverstein of lying for some vague but nefarious purpose.

Why won't you research the matter, contact Mr. Silverstein, contact the FDNY commanders, etc., in an effort to support your allegations rather than purporting to put the burden on someone else to substantiate your baseless accusations for you?

As an aside, human nature being what it is, I would hazard a guess that it is more likely that a commander who called Mr. Silverstein will remember having done so than it is that Mr. Silverstein will remember the name of a commander who called him. So, should you ever decide to actually lift a finger in an effort to support your accusations, I would suggest that the answer is more likely to be found by asking the fire commanders.

Please report back on the efforts you make and the results you obtain.

 

[tsig]

It's a testament to how badly LS screwed the pooch for you guys.

I think we should leave your sexual proclivities out of it.

 

[pomeroo]

Hopefully, a peace treaty will survive the fact that I've presented my case on the Silverstein interview and don't wish to restate it.

Perhaps some researcher will be conscientious and lucky enough to get Silverstein to say which commander he spoke with. Until then, there's not much more I can say.

What you have conspicuously not said is how Silverstein's exchange with the member of the fire department relates to demolition. To most of us, it is obvious that the owner of the building was agreeing with the firefighters' decision to suspend their efforts to save the building. Somewhere along the way, the notion that Silverstein wanted, for unfathomable reasons, to blow up his building entered the picture. Given that fantasists lied outright when they falsely claimed that "pull it" was a bizarre request that the FDNY use explosives to bring down WTC 7, what exactly are we continuing to debate? If we learn the identity of the person who spoke with Silverstein, what will that tell us? Why are we adding another red herring to a stinking barrel of rotted fish? What has Silverstein done to deserve the slander he has received? What is he suspected of doing?

 

[Confuseling]

Now, back to the topic at hand: Please start contacting the other commanders forthwith and report back with the results as soon as possible. By the way, there are a lot more than 7 (the number that you've mentioned a few times in this thread).

It whispers softly, like the wind in the leaves.

It speaks much wisdom.

Can he hear it?



[with apologies to concerned entities who may have no strong desire to be consigned to collecting dust as part of sizzler's psychological furniture]

 

[The Big Dog]

Hopefully, a peace treaty will survive the fact that I've presented my case on the Silverstein interview and don't wish to restate it.

Perhaps some researcher will be conscientious and lucky enough to get Silverstein to say which commander he spoke with. Until then, there's not much more I can say.

In the meantime, perhaps you could address my repeated question to you regarding the timing of the conversation.

You have repeatedly claimed that LS had the discussion at issue long after the crews had been "pulled" from WTC7. Please back up that assertion or withdraw it.

 

[Bobert]

Larry makes some interesting remarks, and ommissions in this video.

1. He confirms a phone call with "a" fire chief.
2. He refuses to confirm who that fire chief was when told Nigro denied having any conversation with him.
3. He states that the North Tower's antenna ripped through WTC7 causing fuel fires which led to the collapse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtPC0W4HII8&eurl=http://911blogger.com/

My conclusion; Larry is a liar. Next question, why is he lying?

Why is truthers almost always target people who are older, weak, etc?
Time to get off the computer Sizzler and FIGHT THE EVIL NWO!

 

[pomeroo]

Do you think that if we kept this thread on life support for another ten pages any fantasist would be able to relate Silverstein's conversation to controlled demolition?

 

[Walter Ego]

Why is truthers almost always target people who are older, weak, etc?
Time to get off the computer Sizzler and FIGHT THE EVIL NWO!

I think they just like harassing old Jewish men. How brave of them.

I think we can agree that Mr. Silverstein is a smart fella or he wouldn't be where he is today. So why did he go on nation television and confess to blowing up his own building? A senior moment perhaps?

 

[Confuseling]

Standard NWO operating procedure, isn't it? They have to leave clues, despite their awesome monolithic control of everything, or there's no sport in it.

I think its to do with recruitment, or weeding. It's the same as destroying the towers in an obviously fake way. Why do that? So you can see who notices, then kill them all in a bizarre truther-conference catering accident (Darn it! Knew I shouldn't have kept the strychnine in a mayonnaise jar!) or give them jobs befitting their uber-l44t investigative skillz.

 

[HENTAI DOUKYUSEI JP]

It kind of defeats your point since you say that in every thread I post in.

IT reminds me of the naming names thread!
remember it, IT?

 

[Confuseling]

I of course mean uber-l33t. And I would've gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.

Hentai: You're really not so fond of... him? are you

 

[einsteen]

In the Jowenko cast he also said "pull it down", which is not exactly what Silverstein said, I'm wondering where he saw that video, if he didn't know about wtc7 he also shouldn't have seen that video. But the antenna javelin towards wtc7 is really laughable.

 

[twinstead]

In the Jowenko cast he also said "pull it down", which is not exactly what Silverstein said, I'm wondering where he saw that video, if he didn't know about wtc7 he also shouldn't have seen that video. But the antenna javelin towards wtc7 is really laughable.

Frankly, I put Silverstein's comment on the same level as truther's comments about WTC7; both the antenna javelin and CD are equally ludicrous and stated by those equally ignorant of what really happened to the building.

 

[eeyore1954]

Hopefully, a peace treaty will survive the fact that I've presented my case on the Silverstein interview and don't wish to restate it.

Perhaps some researcher will be conscientious and lucky enough to get Silverstein to say which commander he spoke with. Until then, there's not much more I can say.

there is a good chance he doesn't know the name of who called him. It is unlikely he knew them personally.

 

[pomeroo]

there is a good chance he doesn't know the name of who called him. It is unlikely he knew them personally.

We have established that RedIbis has no case. He is unable to suggest what alternate and sinister meaning Silverstein's comment in agreement with the FDNY's assessment might have. He understands that learning the identity of the local commander who spoke with Silverstein would accomplish nothing. I don't the person's name, but I'd bet my last dollar it's someone who despises conspiracy liars.

 

[lapman]

there is a good chance he doesn't know the name of who called him. It is unlikely he knew them personally.

Probably doesn't even remember who he was talking to since the name really wasn't important. Of course, the TM requires everyone involved to have a photographic memory and be able to recall explicit details at any given time.