Kirk Cameron and Banana Guy are back. And this WILL piss you off.

[RandFan]

Yeah, I was wondering about artichokes and cabbage. Let's not forget cabbage, I mean it wasn't even edible until some guy with a lot of time on his hands and relatives he didn't really like took the time to make it non-toxic.

And the banana as we know it isn't how "God made it".

That's right. Also the banana wasn't available to the west until 327 BCE.

The Origin of Bananas

The bananas that were growing in Africa as well as Southeast Asia were not the eight-to-twelve-inch giants that have become familiar in the U.S. supermarkets today. They were small, about as long as a man's finger. Ergo the name banan, Arabic for finger. The Spaniards, who saw a similarity to the plane tree that grows in Spain, gave the plantain its Spanish name, platano.

 

[switchtech]

No one has ever surveyed me on the street asking me questions like this. They wouldn't use me if they did, of course. It's like the science questions most people on the street can't answer (such as does the Earth orbit the Sun? How long does that take?... etc.)

I love his bit about there being no missing link between humans and chimps. He's right you know. We both evolved from a very non-missing string of ancestor species!

I can't believe they're putting all the currently discredited - no I take that back, knowing what they think is true, I do believe it. Unfortunately, their audience won't know the difference.

jbs

 

[RandFan]

No one has ever surveyed me on the street asking me questions like this. They wouldn't use me if they did, of course. It's like the science questions most people on the street can't answer (such as does the Earth orbit the Sun? How long does that take?... etc.)

I love his bit about there being no missing link between humans and chimps. He's right you know. We both evolved from a very non-missing string of ancestor species!

I can't believe they're putting all the currently discredited - no I take that back, knowing what they think is true, I do believe it. Unfortunately, their audience won't know the difference.

jbs

Welcome to the forum switch. Texas huh? You know that only... never mind.

 

[switchtech]

Welcome to the forum switch. Texas huh? You know that only... never mind.

I could say I used to be from S. California.... But that was a lifetime ago. And a couple of lifetimes before that was Michigan.

Besides the saying is about that state immediately to the North of Texas

 

[Ducky]

(my bold)

Hey RFan, I understand this completely.

A lot of people I know learnt all they know about logic from watching reruns of Star Trek.


This happened once, when I was trying to teach a friend the concept of syllogisms. Just the basics.

Me: OK, basically you got a couple of premises and a conclusion.

Friend: O kay....

Me: And the idea is that the conclusion follows from the premises.

Friend: O kay...

Me: In fact, the conclusion is an inescapable consequence of the premises.

Friend: M hmm...

Me: OK here's an example.
Premise One: All humans are mortal.
Premise Two: Fred is human.
Conclusion: Fred is mortal.

Friend: Right! So.. But.. Hang on... My cat's mortal, but she's not human!

Me: No, I didn't say all mortal things are human, I said all humans are mortal.

Friend (walking away in a huff) : But you said Fred was mortal coz he was human, well my ca't mortal and she's not a human...


I've had conversations with people who thought that an exclamation of "Whatever..." was the equivalent of delivering a coup de grâce.

One of my favorite roles as a theater major in college was Ionescoe's Rhinoceros. I was the logician.

Your friend sounds a lot like that logician.

"All cats die. Socrates is dead therefore Socrates was a cat."

"I have a cat named Socrates!"

"There you go then."

 

[switchtech]

Ya know, I've never seen a people on the street survey on religious topics. We should video tape a survey asking lay people similar questions that most won't know the answer and then publish the results. Then announce that these types of surveys mean nothing about the validity of the subject of the questions, whether science or God. The moon takes a little less than a month to orbit the Earth once regardless how many or how few people know it.

We just need someone to generate the list of questions.

jbs

 

[logical muse]

One of my favorite roles as a theater major in college was Ionescoe's Rhinoceros. I was the logician.

Your friend sounds a lot like that logician.

"All cats die. Socrates is dead therefore Socrates was a cat."

"I have a cat named Socrates!"

"There you go then."

My friend's cat is called Aristotle.

Stretching the boundaries of the believable even further, I'm pretty sure that the cat she had before that was called Socrates. If it wasn't Socrates, it was one of the other Greek philosophers.

The funny thing is, I was actually trying to teach the concept of syllogisms to my friend's daughter, when my friend came in to the room and decided she needed to learn it too. The daughter (aged maybe 16 at the time) got it instantly, and was able to abstract it out to something like "All giznabbles are floogy. Dekltrop is a giznabble, therefore dekltrop is floogy. No mum, just coz something is floogy doesn't make it a giznabble."


I had a dog called Zeno.

 

[Polaris]

They keep leaving him behind.

HAhahahaha! That's terrific.

 

[xibalba]

I don't know if anyone has brought it up (I haven't seen it yet but it might have been an old topic) but Cameron's "expose" of Satanism in heavy metal culture is even better. My brother and I (both atheist metal heads) watched it last year after a drunken wedding reception and laughed like maniacs for over two hours.

It was the same kind of gimic as the aforementioned video; find an acceptable candidate (i.e. the most wasted, burned-out, loser, jackass) at a metal show and then ask him lofty philosophical questions. The Burn-Out will look at the interviewer (Cameron's co-host) and say, "What, Man?" Then Kirk Cameron says, "See? That's what happens when you turn away from Christ and blah, blah, blah, insert Bible verse here..."

If Kirk and his crew had caught my friends and I at a metal show, however, the interview would've been a bit different...

KIRK'S CO-HOST: "Why do you worship Satan?"

ME: "Satan? Satan?! No, sir, I worship someone who exists. His name is Zakk Wylde. Wait about ten minutes and you'll worship him, too."