Killtown vs. 911debunker debate has begun!

rebel said:
How pathetic! Chippy has to run back here and get help from all of you. I doubt Killtown needs to do that.
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chippy isn't running here for help. In fact he's doing it all on his own, and in just one post proved Killtown wrong ten fold.

Killtown is ill equiped to deal with someone who has facts on his side. When you only have imagination, fairy tales, and a wishbone in your pocket, you need all the help you can get.
 
Arus808 said:
chippy isn't running here for help. In fact he's doing it all on his own, and in just one post proved Killtown wrong ten fold.

Killtown is ill equiped to deal with someone who has facts on his side. When you only have imagination, fairy tales, and a wishbone in your pocket, you need all the help you can get.
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Chippy is the only one with the guts to debate Killtown, so i'll give him that.
 
rebel said:
How pathetic! Chippy has to run back here and get help from all of you. I doubt Killtown needs to do that.
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Killtown should find a place to run to, because he needs the help MUCH more.

His position is untenable, and he knows it. His attitude toward the victims of 911 is vile, and he knows it. Finally, the illegitimacy of his 'evidence' and his 'investigation' is overshadowed only by his lack of understanding of the basic physics and other science involved in the event, and he knows it.

But, hey, other than that he's doing fine.
 
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rebel said:
How pathetic! Chippy has to run back here and get help from all of you. I doubt Killtown needs to do that.
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You do realize it way easier to just make stuff up, right?

That's pretty much all that KT does, so it's no wonder he never needs anyone else to help him.
 
DavidJames said:
Why are you here?
Why don't you state your beliefs?

Killtown doesn't need help because he doesn't bother to burden himself with facts. He simply makes **** up.
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Why are you here?
Why don't you state your beliefs?
 
rebel said:
Chippy is the only one with the guts to debate Killtown, so i'll give him that.
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that's what happens when you haven't been here long enough and didn't bother to research. many here have agree to debate Killtown...but like the coward that Killtown is, he ran away when he was put to task.

its great that chippy was able to corner him like the trapped rat he is.
 
Spindrift said:
I see this as a prime example of the troofer method of attempted debate.

Never presenting any real evidence. Simply asking questions.

Using the Socratic method is not debate and unfortunately for the troofers that strategy is hamstrung because the answers they are trying to exact are not the answers they will ever get.

Troofer: Do you believe that a 4320 lb framastan could really have landed 335.228 meters from the impact?

Desired Answer: No, I guess not. So it must have been planted evidence.

Real Answer: Yes, aircraft impact debris including large pieces is often scattered over even larger areas.
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Bear in mind that the hypothetical is often factually false. For example

"Do you believe that aircraft impact alone could have brought down the towers?"

or its twin brother

"Do you believe that fires alone could have brought down the towers?"
 
rebel said:
Chippy is the only one with the guts to debate Killtown, so i'll give him that.
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Chippy is the only one with the stomach to debate Killtown. The rest of us start thowing up everytime we see him.
 
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rebel said:
Chippy is the only one with the guts to debate Killtown, so i'll give him that.
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Well well, look here, another liar.

I personally debated Killtown for over 40 pages in his epic monument to stupidity, found here. As did many, many others.

The notion that anyone wouldn't have the "guts" to debate such an overwhelmingly dim individual is the funniest thing I've heard so far today. Now scram, varlet.
 
rebel said:
Chippy is the only one with the guts to debate Killtown, so i'll give him that.
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If you think of Killtown as your champion then you've really got problems.

There were plenty of people debating Killtown here before he got banned, it was both tedious and annoying but Killtown got show what an idiot he is. He does get a fair bit of argument on the LC site as well but, ultimately it takes patience and a lot of time to engage with his potent mix of sophistry and stupidity - and most people have better things to do with their time.

Honestly, I think we could all give up and your movement wouldn't get very far - it's hardly impressive.
 
rebel said:
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Another twoofer who ignores people who point out his errors. And we wonder why they make so many errors.
 
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R.Mackey said:
Well well, look here, another liar.

I personally debated Killtown for over 40 pages in his epic monument to stupidity, found here. As did many, many others.

The notion that anyone wouldn't have the "guts" to debate such an overwhelmingly dim individual is the funniest thing I've heard so far today. Now scram, varlet.
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Gravy has backed out of a debate with killtown by adding the condition that killtown must reveal his real name. He knows KT won't. What a coward.
 
maccy said:
If you think of Killtown as your champion then you've really got problems.

There were plenty of people debating Killtown here before he got banned, it was both tedious and annoying but Killtown got show what an idiot he is. He does get a fair bit of argument on the LC site as well but, ultimately it takes patience and a lot of time to engage with his potent mix of sophistry and stupidity - and most people have better things to do with their time.

Honestly, I think we could all give up and your movement wouldn't get very far - it's hardly impressive.
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And why was he banned? He is never abusive so he was banned for his opinions.

By the way, welcome to ignore.
 
chippy said:
For the record, none of what I have said in the debate was at all influenced by what anyone said here. Would you care to point out who gave me the Pratt and Whitney engine fact sheet, for example? Or would you point out who helped me figure out that Killtown used a faulty source in his opening statement?

If you really feel strongly enough that I'm running here for help, then I'll ask the administrators to close this forum. Trust me, I'm doing this entirely on my own.
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You're doing just fine, chippy, and feel free to ask for help.

This whole stupid debate is, supposedly, about determing what really happened. If you need help, then go get it. Brag about it. Reference it. Help is good.

This is not just a chest-beating contest over who can memorize the most facts. That sort of "debate" enlightens no one. (And I'm sure you'd win that one as well.)
 
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