Kerry's Plan, Reinstate the Draft

[BPSCG]

So far, the only talk in favor of reinstating the draft that I've heard comes from the Democrats, notably Charles Rangel and Fritz Hollings., who both introduced bills last year.

John Edwards claims John Kerry will not reinstate the draft, while Kerry claims he will add 40,000 troops to our already overstretched military - without the draft, presumably.

That pain in the back of your neck comes from your head being whipsawed back and forth trying to make sense of all these Democratic positions.

 

[Dorian Gray]

If you have a simpler explanation for why the Kerry camp keeps implying there are more reserve units about to be called or a draft I'll be happy to listen. The way his camp portrays it is that its _inevitable_ is the worrysome part. Which means if Kerry is elected......

You're a liar. You won't listen to anything that doesn't originate from your tinfoil hat. The simpler explanation is that Bush insists that elections will take place no matter what, Britain is pulling out 5,000 troops, there are many areas that are under rebel/terrorist/insurgent/guerilla/term of the week control, and an election is useless if a large portion of the country is not under the control of the government. How will they take these areas? If they could do it with the troops they have now, they would.

Oh yes, and there's the fact that Bush has instituted the "stop-loss", preventing NGs from retiring at the end of their service. That is practically a draft already! Basically, you are calling reality a Democrat scare tactic, you idiot!

How do you reconcile your "Kerry will reinstate the draft" comment with the "Kerry will pull out" statement you have made before? You're such a troll. I hope to hell you don't intend on creating 7 or 8 more threads about this nutty conspiracy. For Christ's sake, Rather needs proof, but your information can come directly from your ass?

 

[crimresearch]

And whatever you do, don't try to pull that Democratic legislation reviving the draft out of your ass.

It may be an inconvenience to be ignored by the pseudo-liberal woos, but in reality it does exist, and pulling it out of your ass would really hurt.

 

[crimresearch]

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5. "big lie"? Not only are you a woo-woo when it comes to politics JJ but you're also ignorant, a boor, and worse you seem to argue for the sake of argueing.

Let me just put you back on ignore trollboy.

Now, now...don't go putting JJ on ignore...that sort of uncivil abuse might force him to make another blackmail threat to the mods, to either punish his abuser, or JJ will once again be forced to leave forever and never post here again..

I mean look how quickly they jumped through his hoops last time he tried it...

 

[BPSCG]

You're a liar.

Basically, you are calling reality a Democrat scare tactic, you idiot!

You're such a troll.

Careful, Dorian - any more smoke comes out of your ears and someone's gonna turn a fire hose on your head.

 

[clk]

How do you reconcile your "Kerry will reinstate the draft" comment with the "Kerry will pull out" statement you have made before?

Corplinx was NOT flip-flopping. He was showing leadership! Get it right!

 

[Dorian Gray]

Careful, Dorian - any more smoke comes out of your ears and someone's gonna turn a fire hose on your head.

Careful, BPSCG - you might get brown on your nose. Nice avoidance of anything resembling substantiating Corplinx's claims, by the way. I guess it's hard to do research with nothing but gluteous in your field of vision. What, haven't the neocons told you what to say yet?

 

[crimresearch]

Careful, BPSCG - you might get brown on your nose. Nice avoidance of anything resembling substantiating Corplinx's claims, by the way. I guess it's hard to do research with nothing but gluteous in your field of vision. What, haven't the neocons told you what to say yet?

You know, the above post neatly encapsulates a very important difference.

As a minority, I don't ever recall too many Republicans taking my vote for granted, or taking it for granted that I needed to be told what to say or how to think. Or telling me what to say.

No, that plantation mentality and the idea of owning the votes and minds of minorities, seems to still be the exclusive domaiin of the Democrats.

Now if the Republicans would just adopt progressive programs, I might actually be able to repay their approach of letting me make up my own mind by voting for them.

But stuff like the Patriot Act and 'non-reviewable' legislation makes that impossible.

And if the Democrats would dump the pseudo-libs who patronize minorities, and *honor* their progressive promises, I might be able to forgive their long history of blatant and recent record of subtle racism and vote for them.

But betrayals like 'Don't Ask - Don't Tell and 'guestworkers' and the Police Corps make *that* highly unlikely.

 

[BPSCG]

Careful, BPSCG - you might get brown on your nose. Nice avoidance of anything resembling substantiating Corplinx's claims, by the way. I guess it's hard to do research with nothing but gluteous in your field of vision. What, haven't the neocons told you what to say yet?

Corplinx put out a hypothesis that amounts to a prediction for the future, though I have to admit, he probably stated it rather more strongly than he should have. He gave reasons why he believes his hypothesis is true.

I have no particular opinion on his hypothesis. He may be right, he may be wrong. I have no way to substantiate it or debunk it. Your vulgar comments and name-calling do nothing to advance the discussion; they do, however strengthen my conviction that you're in a really cranky mood today.

 

[Tmy]

When has Kerry said that he'd start a draft??? Is it on his webpage??

If anyone is going to start a draft, it would be Bush. Hes obssesed with fixing Iraq. He still wont even back down from the "mission accomplished" mess. As a lame duck prez there would be no stopping him.

 

[corplinx]

Corplinx put out a hypothesis that amounts to a prediction for the future, though I have to admit, he probably stated it rather more strongly than he should have. He gave reasons why he believes his hypothesis is true.

I have no particular opinion on his hypothesis. He may be right, he may be wrong. I have no way to substantiate it or debunk it. Your vulgar comments and name-calling do nothing to advance the discussion; they do, however strengthen my conviction that you're in a really cranky mood today.

The funny is part is me laughing my ass off watching them react. All I did was throw out an alternate reason aside from scaremongering (that being softening the blow). I don't in any way think Kerry would reinstate the draft. I just wouldn't be surprised if the Rove machine started their own "Kerry/Draft" meme. Some people don't get that whole "thought experiment" thing.


I think Harry had the most dead-on comment and Harry is keen enough to glean it wasn't too serious of a post in the first place.

 

[clk]

All I did was throw out an alternate reason aside from scaremongering (that being softening the blow).

The problem was that your 'alternate reason' was so improbable and baseless that it made your argument ridiculous. The funny part is, I have as much evidence to back up my assertion that Bush is going to repeal the 1st amendment as you do to back up your assertion.

I don't in any way think Kerry would reinstate the draft.

Then why did you start a thread titled: "Kerry's Plan, Reinstate the Draft", and then state this:

"However, now it seems pretty clear what Kerry's plan for Iraq is. After winning, Kerry will call up the reserves and guard and will reinstate the draft ."

I think Harry had the most dead-on comment and Harry is keen enough to glean it wasn't too serious of a post in the first place.

Oh, so now this thread is a joke? Then why, when I asked you this: "This thread is a joke, right?"
did you reply:

Which part of it, the part where I acknowledged a behavior and provided two plausible explanations or the part where you tried to mimic it and did so poorly?

If you have a simpler explanation for why the Kerry camp keeps implying there are more reserve units about to be called or a draft I'll be happy to listen. The way his camp portrays it is that its _inevitable_ is the worrysome part. Which means if Kerry is elected......

 

[jj]

Sad, really, Corplinx just made it all up, and admits it.

How low can he go?

 

[jj]

Oh, so now this thread is a joke? Then why, when I asked you this: "This thread is a joke, right?"
did you reply:

When he gets caught, it's a "joke".

Don't you get it? The whole game is "get away with anything, everything, to polarize the population as much as possible, and then revile the honest people who call you on it. When that won't fly, claim it was a joke."

 

[clk]

When he gets caught, it's a "joke".

Don't you get it? The whole game is "get away with anything, everything, to polarize the population as much as possible, and then revile the honest people who call you on it. When that won't fly, claim it was a joke."

Well, he got caught with his pants down, which is not a big deal, it happens to everyone at some point. But he should admit and move on instead of making lame excuses or saying that this thread really is a joke, despite what he said earlier.

 

[Brown]

If anyone is going to start a draft, it would be Bush. Hes obssesed with fixing Iraq. He still wont even back down from the "mission accomplished" mess. As a lame duck prez there would be no stopping him.

At this stage, neither of the major party candidates should rule out a draft.

Whether by design or by accident, President Bush has set the stage for a draft. The armed forces are bogged down in Iraq. New troops are going to have to come from somewhere. By his address to the United Nations, President Bush has all but guaranteed that no other nations are going to join his side in the war that he started. President Bush decided to go it alone.

Regardless of who wins in November, the brass and the hawks in the Congress are almost certainly going to demand that more resources be sent to Iraq. Ask your friendly neighborhood Army recruiter whether his job is made easier when hostilities are in progress. There is going to come a time when the need for new soldiers will become acute.

All it will take is a hostile act by, say, Iran to make the need for troops imperative, and all this talk about not reinstating the draft will be quickly forgotten.

 

[corplinx]

Well, he got caught with his pants down, which is not a big deal, it happens to everyone at some point. But he should admit and move on instead of making lame excuses or saying that this thread really is a joke, despite what he said earlier.

Caught with my pants down? Ha, you guys are great. Last week I was in Vegas, this week I'm in St. Louis; point is I only check the forum sporadically so keep up the funny posts.


Trust me Clk, if I got caught with my pants down it was only because you were looking for your wife.

 

[clk]

so keep up the funny posts.

Your posts were the funniest, IMO.

Trust me Clk, if I got caught with my pants down it was only because you were looking for your wife.

I'm not married, so I'm not sure who you're having sex with, but if you were in Las Vegas like you said, I think I can fill in the blanks...